Posted: 1/27/2009 12:44:43 PM EDT
| Looking into bringing a American Bulldog puppy home for the family however I am considering doing protection sports with him. What are the pros and cons of this breed. Pics would help. Looking for those who actually have a American Bulldog to chime in on this one. |
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If you want a dog (of any breed) to do protection sports with seek out a breeder who is actively involved in training in a protection sport.
I also think you would get much better advice from a forum that deals with working dogs instead of the pet section of a gun forum. |
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+1 Quoted: If you want a dog (of any breed) to do protection sports with seek out a breeder who is actively involved in training in a protection sport. I also think you would get much better advice from a forum that deals with working dogs instead of the pet section of a gun forum. |
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If you want a dog (of any breed) to do protection sports with seek out a breeder who is actively involved in training in a protection sport. I also think you would get much better advice from a forum that deals with working dogs instead of the pet section of a gun forum. This a pet section, and I do believe a dog is a pet so this is a legitimat posting. I am not seeking a trainer or a breeder, I am seeking info on American Bulldogs. Anyone with info please respond. |
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i had a couple friends with some. they are definately an interesting dog. around kids, they were great. the kids would jump all over, pick on them, and god knows what else, and the dogs absolutely loved it. definately extremely protective also. however you HAVE to have an alpha personality for them. especially when they reach that "teenager" stage where they are big enough to fuck you up, and not smart enough to know not to. they never showed any aggression towards the kids, however my friend had to show his dominance often during that stage to keep the dog in check. and by the way, that does not mean hit the dog. bulldogs thrive off of pain.
so all in all, great breed, but if this is your first dog i'd say go for something else. they are definately not a beginners dog by any means, and i have other friends who learned this the hard way and had get rid of their dogs because they just couldn't handle them. |
| Looking for pics also. I grew up with a Rottweiler and my personel first dog was a English Mastiff so I understand the alpha philosophy and pain threthhold. I love the Mastiff breed but at this point Im not looking for a 200lb. slobber monster. I have a deal worked out with a breeder/trainer that I will get the pic of the litter, he will provide all the training with my assistance and any equipment but I need to get the dog certified and titled. Right now we are just waiting for his dogs to make it happen so I am doing as much research as I can on the breed to include opinions. Need more input from arfcom |
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Here is a breeder north of Dallas. One of my best friends got a dog from Chris in 2005. He has been a great dog. You will need to be the alpha in the house. As he has gotten older he has become more dominate. Plays well with my boxer, but we have to keep an eye on them to make sure the playing does not get to serious.
http://www.clearcreekbulldogs.com/ |
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Looking for pics also. I grew up with a Rottweiler and my personel first dog was a English Mastiff so I understand the alpha philosophy and pain threthhold. I love the Mastiff breed but at this point Im not looking for a 200lb. slobber monster. I have a deal worked out with a breeder/trainer that I will get the pic of the litter, he will provide all the training with my assistance and any equipment but I need to get the dog certified and titled. Right now we are just waiting for his dogs to make it happen so I am doing as much research as I can on the breed to include opinions. Need more input from arfcom Since you are wanting to do protection training, I would get the trainer to give a list of referrals. I don't know how well you know the trainer, but I would would use extra scrutiny for a protection dog trainer. I have seen a couple guys around my area that should not be doing it, yet they continue to do so. I like American Bulldogs, just make sure you and the trainer are on the same page. If you go the protection route, make sure you pick the pup with the right drive, not necessarily the cute one. ETA: There are better dogs for protection work than the American Bulldog. The right one can do it, but it won't come as easy as some other breeds. Good luck, let us know if you get one. 
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| The guy Im going with studied under Bill Koehler and Jack Healy. He has his own breed he is develping called the Cao dos Mourey. He also has American Bulldogs, and Fila Brasileiros. After talking with him we are going to be going with a Cao dos Mourey with the heavier American Bulldog blood line so the dog will be bit smaller then his 190lb. blood line. Kind of like a bandog. |
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Might want to check out http://molosserdogs.com/ My E/M was never a problem with the alpha thing but E/B was a different story, waiting to see about your new OEB
Good luck and post pics |
| I owned an AB back in 1994 and he was an extremely intelligent dog and easy to train. They do have a very dominant streak and you have to let them know who is boss. My dog was from the Alan Scott/Bill Hines "Hog Catching" bloodline and was about 75-80lbs.. Most breeders today seem to be interested in the giant Johnson bloodlines which are about 100-115lbs. These giant AB's display a little more man aggressiveness than the hog dog lines(Good for protection!) There are only a handful of breeders here in Texas as well as in remote areas of the deep south that are still breeding the true American Bulldog. His original role was as a catchdog for wild hogs and unruly cattle. As someone mentioned earlier, there are better breeds for protection sports but AB's have done really well in these competitions. Have you looked into the Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog? www.oldplantationbulldogs.com This kennel breeds really good bulldogs for protection work. Good luck! |
One of my fellow NCO's here on Ft. Hood, TX has a 10 week old Johnson bred American Bulldog female. This pup is very smart and has really large paws for it's age! Cute little gal...I think you'll like the Johnson bulldogs Quoted:
After looking at the hines and johnson bloodlines, i think i would ratherhave the larger johnson bloodline. |