Posted: 8/30/2015 7:05:23 PM EDT
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i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank.
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They'll eat most anything they can fit in their mouths and are pretty aggressive. You could try some of the larger gouramis or South American cichlids, maybe, or a shark. Maybe some larger inverts? Also, bottom dwellers like loaches and catfish and plecos might be ok.
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i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank. Would that be too much? Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? |
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Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? Quoted:
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i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank. Would that be too much? Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? Ya they would be the only two fish. I'll spare the frog, but I think the snail should be big enough to not get eaten. I was thinking of getting three JDs and keeping a male and female( hoping I don't get three of the same sex  ) and giving/selling the third away in a few years after I tell.
I've looked online but can't find anything that tells me how to determine their sex while they are small. Any ideas? |
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Quoted: Ya they would be the only two fish. I'll spare the frog, but I think the snail should be big enough to not get eaten. I was thinking of getting three JDs and keeping a male and female( hoping I don't get three of the same sex ) and giving/selling the third away in a few years after I tell.I've looked online but can't find anything that tells me how to determine their sex while they are small. Any ideas? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank. Would that be too much? Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? Ya they would be the only two fish. I'll spare the frog, but I think the snail should be big enough to not get eaten. I was thinking of getting three JDs and keeping a male and female( hoping I don't get three of the same sex ) and giving/selling the third away in a few years after I tell.I've looked online but can't find anything that tells me how to determine their sex while they are small. Any ideas? They look identical as juveniles. I've got a male dempsey and a synodontis catfish in a 55 gallon tank back home. My sister takes care of the tank for me while I'm gone. I've had the pair for at least five years and I'm sure both are approaching ten years in age. They give each other shit and eat whatever they can find. |
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I've looked online but can't find anything that tells me how to determine their sex while they are small. Any ideas? Quoted:
I've looked online but can't find anything that tells me how to determine their sex while they are small. Any ideas? Yes. As with most Cichlids, they're pretty identical when juveniles and once they reach maturity there are differences that can be seen. It's kind of one of those "you just have to look at a lot of them" situations but I'll try to explain: Typically male cichlids will have sharper points at the end of their fins, and females have more rounded edges. With the JD, the female will tend to have a more colorful gill plate. Males tend to not have any iridescent blue/green on their gill plate or their 'chin' beneath the mouth. There's always venting, too. Where you hold the fish upside down in your hand, squeeze gently and see what bits pop out of the hole 
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I was thinking of getting three JDs and keeping a male and female( hoping I don't get three of the same sex ) and giving/selling the third away in a few years after I tell.
Three is a good number to purchase, but if you get two males and one female, there will be a pair and they will bully/kill the other male. It won't take a few years either, they'll be grown up enough to reproduce in a few months depending on how large they were when you get them. |
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Yes. As with most Cichlids, they're pretty identical when juveniles and once they reach maturity there are differences that can be seen. It's kind of one of those "you just have to look at a lot of them" situations but I'll try to explain: Typically male cichlids will have sharper points at the end of their fins, and females have more rounded edges. With the JD, the female will tend to have a more colorful gill plate. Males tend to not have any iridescent blue/green on their gill plate or their 'chin' beneath the mouth. There's always venting, too. Where you hold the fish upside down in your hand, squeeze gently and see what bits pop out of the hole
ETA: Also, Three is a good number to purchase, but if you get two males and one female, there will be a pair and they will bully/kill the other male. It won't take a few years either, they'll be grown up enough to reproduce in a few months depending on how large they were when you get them. Quoted:
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I've looked online but can't find anything that tells me how to determine their sex while they are small. Any ideas? Yes. As with most Cichlids, they're pretty identical when juveniles and once they reach maturity there are differences that can be seen. It's kind of one of those "you just have to look at a lot of them" situations but I'll try to explain: Typically male cichlids will have sharper points at the end of their fins, and females have more rounded edges. With the JD, the female will tend to have a more colorful gill plate. Males tend to not have any iridescent blue/green on their gill plate or their 'chin' beneath the mouth. There's always venting, too. Where you hold the fish upside down in your hand, squeeze gently and see what bits pop out of the hole
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I was thinking of getting three JDs and keeping a male and female( hoping I don't get three of the same sex ) and giving/selling the third away in a few years after I tell.
Three is a good number to purchase, but if you get two males and one female, there will be a pair and they will bully/kill the other male. It won't take a few years either, they'll be grown up enough to reproduce in a few months depending on how large they were when you get them. They'll be young/about an inch or two. |
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Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? Quoted:
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i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank. Would that be too much? Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? They've fucked with the snail to the point it only comes out at night and I got a raphael catfish that seems to be helping clean the tank.
How long should I expect the water to stay cloudy? I take out 10% a day and add seachem prime everyday. |
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They've fucked with the snail to the point it only comes out at night and I got a raphael catfish that seems to be helping clean the tank.
How long should I expect the water to stay cloudy? I take out 10% a day and add seachem prime everyday. Quoted:
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i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank. Would that be too much? Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? They've fucked with the snail to the point it only comes out at night and I got a raphael catfish that seems to be helping clean the tank.
How long should I expect the water to stay cloudy? I take out 10% a day and add seachem prime everyday. Couple questions: Is this your first tank? How long has it been up and running? What's your filtration setup? Do you have hiding places for the raphael? They're nocturnal and hide during the day. If they don't have somewhere to hide (like a nice piece of driftwood or caves) they're likely to get stressed, sick, and die. |
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Couple questions: Is this your first tank? How long has it been up and running? What's your filtration setup? Do you have hiding places for the raphael? They're nocturnal and hide during the day. If they don't have somewhere to hide (like a nice piece of driftwood or caves) they're likely to get stressed, sick, and die. Quoted:
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i'm looking at putting two jacks, a mystery snail, and a african dwarf frog in a 55 gallon tank. Would that be too much? Your frog will be killed. Honestly, I would strongly suggest you reconsider your stocking options. You've got a SA cichlid in with a snail and an amphibian. Also, if you're putting two Jacks together, are they the same sex? Are those the only fish in the tank? They've fucked with the snail to the point it only comes out at night and I got a raphael catfish that seems to be helping clean the tank.
How long should I expect the water to stay cloudy? I take out 10% a day and add seachem prime everyday. Couple questions: Is this your first tank? How long has it been up and running? What's your filtration setup? Do you have hiding places for the raphael? They're nocturnal and hide during the day. If they don't have somewhere to hide (like a nice piece of driftwood or caves) they're likely to get stressed, sick, and die.
my second but i was 10 for my first its been up for a week hang on back topfin75 Ya hes good. he actually kicked the jds out of one of their spots. they dont know how to handle him its pretty funny |
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my second but i was 10 for my first its been up for a week hang on back topfin75 Ya hes good. he actually kicked the jds out of one of their spots. they dont know how to handle him its pretty funny Oh man, I was worried about that. You've not allowed time for your tank to properly cycle. The cloudiness in the water is due to the tank being so new, the nitrogen levels are causing a bloom of algae. Generally you want to have a tank up and running without all your livestock for a few weeks before you start introducing inhabitants. If you can, I would see if you can find a donor home for your fish for about two weeks until your tank gets settled in. Here's a pretty good write-up regarding the cycling process and why it is so critical Cycling your tank This is a big pet peeve of mine- on the TV shows where they build fish tanks, they never ever discuss this. So people new to the hobby may not be aware of how critical this step is. It just depicts the customer telling them what they want in the tank, the build, then BAM the tank is up and running in their house. That's not how real life works 
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Oh man, I was worried about that. You've not allowed time for your tank to properly cycle. The cloudiness in the water is due to the tank being so new, the nitrogen levels are causing a bloom of algae. Generally you want to have a tank up and running without all your livestock for a few weeks before you start introducing inhabitants. If you can, I would see if you can find a donor home for your fish for about two weeks until your tank gets settled in. Here's a pretty good write-up regarding the cycling process and why it is so critical Cycling your tank This is a big pet peeve of mine- on the TV shows where they build fish tanks, they never ever discuss this. So people new to the hobby may not be aware of how critical this step is. It just depicts the customer telling them what they want in the tank, the build, then BAM the tank is up and running in their house. That's not how real life works
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my second but i was 10 for my first its been up for a week hang on back topfin75 Ya hes good. he actually kicked the jds out of one of their spots. they dont know how to handle him its pretty funny Oh man, I was worried about that. You've not allowed time for your tank to properly cycle. The cloudiness in the water is due to the tank being so new, the nitrogen levels are causing a bloom of algae. Generally you want to have a tank up and running without all your livestock for a few weeks before you start introducing inhabitants. If you can, I would see if you can find a donor home for your fish for about two weeks until your tank gets settled in. Here's a pretty good write-up regarding the cycling process and why it is so critical Cycling your tank This is a big pet peeve of mine- on the TV shows where they build fish tanks, they never ever discuss this. So people new to the hobby may not be aware of how critical this step is. It just depicts the customer telling them what they want in the tank, the build, then BAM the tank is up and running in their house. That's not how real life works
Thanks for the info. The chic at the store said to only cycle it for a day. They seem to be doing ok. It's not horribly cloudy, it's just not as clear as it was before I added them Which I assume it should get back to after time. Also, the link you posted said that the tank needs the ammonia to cycle but I've been adding prime which gets rid of it. So should I continue to add it everyday, or what?
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Thanks for the info. The chic at the store said to only cycle it for a day. They seem to be doing ok. It's not horribly cloudy, it's just not as clear as it was before I added them Which I assume it should get back to after time. Also, the link you posted said that the tank needs the ammonia to cycle but I've been adding prime which gets rid of it. So should I continue to add it everyday, or what?
Pet store chick needs a bit more education on the subject, now I wonder how many other times she's repeated that info to new tank owners. Awful. A day will literally do nothing to cycle your tank. That MAY aerate out all the chlorine in your tapwater, but that's about it. It's probably good for business as new tank owners will inevitably have to replace their first run of fish after they all die off, but that's not good animal husbandry advice. There's an old school methodology to cycling the tank and that's to put a single cheap fish in there. Let the fish eat and poop - it's that process that allows the cycling of the tank to get kick started. As you are now, you've already got fish poop in the tank. Part of the cycling process is that you WILL get an ammonia spike. This has to happen. This can be deadly to the fish (hence why the old schoolers recommend a cheap 'canary' fish to die if it gets too high). It could be the case that the chemicals you're adding to the tank are only prolonging the cycle. |
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So I started using Stability and prime for a week, while also adding baking soda and cuttlebone to the filter.
PH 7.5 ish KH 100ish GH 0-20 (cant really tell) NO2 0 NO3 20-30ish So my question now is, how do I raise JUST my GH? I thought the cuttlebone would do it, it looks like it did (but very little). |
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So I started using Stability and prime for a week, while also adding baking soda and cuttlebone to the filter. PH 7.5 ish KH 100ish GH 0-20 (cant really tell) NO2 0 NO3 20-30ish So my question now is, how do I raise JUST my GH? I thought the cuttlebone would do it, it looks like it did (but very little). You can always supplement with magnesium and calcium. |
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So I started using Stability and prime for a week, while also adding baking soda and cuttlebone to the filter. PH 7.5 ish KH 100ish GH 0-20 (cant really tell) NO2 0 NO3 20-30ish So my question now is, how do I raise JUST my GH? I thought the cuttlebone would do it, it looks like it did (but very little). You can always supplement with magnesium and calcium. Using baking soda and epsom salt. Would a 28 gallon tank be enough for one JD? I guess what I'm really asking is, how bad would it be for him? MY GF feels sorry for the third one (they are starting to pick on him hard(has a bite mark on his head)) and doesn't want to get rid of him, and a 28 would fit good in our room. I was thinking him and maybe a Pitcus Catfish also. |
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What would be the best one to get and what type/how much of media would I need?
http://bestchoiceproducts.com/collections/pet-supplies/products/fish-canister-external-5-stage-filter-pump-for-aquarium-pump-fish-tank-new?variant=1263419239 https://www.shopxero.com/us/catalog/product/view/id/510212/s/polar-aurora-4-stage-external-aquarium-filter-265gph-uv-9w-with-builtin-pump-kit-canister/ Meh: went with this. Seems like a good deal. http://www.amazon.com/SunSun-Hw303B-370GPH-Canister-Filter/dp/B00MH2NRIQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1446646682&sr=1-5&keywords=sunsun+302 |