Posted: 5/19/2016 1:11:23 AM EDT
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You wouldn't need much. GPU and a Tug. Stairway. Lav Service truck. Fuel truck. You could put in a fuel farm, and it would probably pay for itself in short order. But you don't need one, because you can always tanker fuel in.
You also wouldn't want to start with a 787. Get a 767, BBJ, 757, or a small triple seven. For reliability, it's better to stick with proven designs that have parts and correctly certified mechanics mechanics available. A guy with that much money would hire a Chief pilot to set everything up for him. Maybe we should talk. 
- Yes, most Corporate jet owners contract with an FBO to keep their airplanes in a hangar. The larger operators get a long term lease at an airport, and build their own hangar facility. |
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You wouldn't need much. GPU and a Tug. Stairway. Lav Service truck. Fuel truck. You could put in a fuel farm, and it would probably pay for itself in short order. But you don't need one, because you can always tanker fuel in. You also wouldn't want to start with a 787. Get a 767, BBJ, 757, or a small triple seven. For reliability, it's better to stick with proven designs that have parts and correctly certified mechanics mechanics available. A guy with that much money would hire a Chief pilot to set everything up for him. Maybe we should talk.
- Yes, most Corporate jet owners contract with an FBO to keep their airplanes in a hangar. The larger operators get a long term lease at an airport, and build their own hangar facility. Thanks. I assume the BBJ 747-8 falls under that category of airplane that is reliable and proven? What is the maintenance like for such a large aircraft like the 747-8? Would you need a full inspection by a certified crew after each flight? Monthly? Annual? Thank you for the help and your time sir |
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They would have to be excessively wealthy. The fuel costs alone would be staggering, even for this new gen of greeny planes.
The support equipment alone to sustain it would be expensive and lets not forget its an all electric airplane, it has three ground power connections, it practically needs its own power station for ground ops if you have all systems turned on, which normally isn't the SOP. |
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Thanks. I assume the BBJ 747-8 falls under that category of airplane that is reliable and proven? What is the maintenance like for such a large aircraft like the 747-8? Would you need a full inspection by a certified crew after each flight? Monthly? Annual? Thank you for the help and your time sir Quoted:
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You wouldn't need much. GPU and a Tug. Stairway. Lav Service truck. Fuel truck. You could put in a fuel farm, and it would probably pay for itself in short order. But you don't need one, because you can always tanker fuel in. You also wouldn't want to start with a 787. Get a 767, BBJ, 757, or a small triple seven. For reliability, it's better to stick with proven designs that have parts and correctly certified mechanics mechanics available. A guy with that much money would hire a Chief pilot to set everything up for him. Maybe we should talk.
- Yes, most Corporate jet owners contract with an FBO to keep their airplanes in a hangar. The larger operators get a long term lease at an airport, and build their own hangar facility. Thanks. I assume the BBJ 747-8 falls under that category of airplane that is reliable and proven? What is the maintenance like for such a large aircraft like the 747-8? Would you need a full inspection by a certified crew after each flight? Monthly? Annual? Thank you for the help and your time sir Why would he want a giant airplane, when he could get a "small" corporate jet with the same range and comfort. Smaller planes can get into a lot more airfields. This alone would make them better. The first thing you need to define is: What's the Mission? Everything in aviation is a compromise. You would want to have a Mechanic on staff. He would do inspections, manage the logbook/maintenance schedule and do some light wrenching. Also, and more importantly, he would manage Contract Maintenance and make sure you are being treated fairly. Maintenance schedules can be set up either where you do small inspections on a routine basis, or where you do less frequent large inspections. (in addition to the normal squawks, AD's and SB's) Every Airplane is going to be slightly different with regards to MX. They each have manufacturers recommended schedules, as well as FAA mandated inspections. It's a little bit daunting, but it's actually pretty straight forward. All it takes is money. Salesmen can be helpful in pointing you in the right direction, but don't ever give them your real phone number or E-mail.  I learned that mistake the hard way.
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Why would he want a giant airplane, when he could get a "small" corporate jet with the same range and comfort. Smaller planes can get into a lot more airfields. This alone would make them better.
The first thing you need to define is: What's the Mission? Everything in aviation is a compromise. This, unless you need the capacity, it's really hard to justify a plane like that unless a person just wants it. There are many other smaller options that have good range and can be outfitted very luxuriously for the money spent on a basic 787. Most everything will be less expensive on a smaller corporate jet, still expensive though. FWIW I worked at Boeing in Everett on the flight line on 787's for 28 months, great concept, and assembled properly it's a great aircraft, but very poor execution. All that aside it is a ground breaking aircraft and I hope it does well in the long run. |
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There is a 787 parked on hardstand gravel/sand at Pima County.
I imagine if it was your land, you'd need 8000 feet of good concrete. Probably also have Jepp and APG shit you out some approaches and departures. But, most of the super large VIP aircraft are head of state equivalent aircraft and live at very secure national level facilities. |
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Park that thing at the nearest big airport. Use a turboprop, or helicopter to make the shuttle run in between. That's what most of the wealthy folks out there do. They have a 407 or other helicopter to take them tot he ranch, then there's a truck/bus whatever to bring all the luggage, equipment, etc.
The runway and other infrastructure to support that thing out in the boonies would be staggering. If money is no object, then go ahead, but the plane itself would just be the tip of the iceberg. The engineering that would go into the runway alone would be.......wow. Google keeps their 757's and 767's and other jets at Moffett Field in California. They have enough money to build their own airport, but they struck a deal with the military and NASA which is pretty amazing. "H211" was the company name they used for this I believe--got into a big fight over some fuel taxes IIRC. |
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It's not a 787, but a 707/720 is a big, maintenance intensive airplane. John Travolta seems to manage. Give him a call.
John Travolta's private airport |
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It's not a 787, but a 707/720 is a big, maintenance intensive airplane. John Travolta seems to manage. Give him a call. John Travolta's private airport That's not *his* private airport......he lives in subdivision which is one big private airport. It's called Jumbolair Aviation Estates |
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Park that thing at the nearest big airport. Use a turboprop, or helicopter to make the shuttle run in between. That's what most of the wealthy folks out there do. They have a 407 or other helicopter to take them tot he ranch, then there's a truck/bus whatever to bring all the luggage, equipment, etc. The runway and other infrastructure to support that thing out in the boonies would be staggering. If money is no object, then go ahead, but the plane itself would just be the tip of the iceberg. The engineering that would go into the runway alone would be.......wow. Google keeps their 757's and 767's and other jets at Moffett Field in California. They have enough money to build their own airport, but they struck a deal with the military and NASA which is pretty amazing. "H211" was the company name they used for this I believe--got into a big fight over some fuel taxes IIRC. I would not have guessed Google would own 757 and 767's. I could see Gulfstreams. |
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Idaho. You'd need deicing equipment.
Private field. How much to build a mile plus long runway that'll handle the weight. You'd also need an instrument approach to it or risk not getting in at times. Maintenance for the most part done at a contract station. Tanker fuel in. You wouldn't need any onsite. |
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Idaho. You'd need deicing equipment. Private field. How much to build a mile plus long runway that'll handle the weight. You'd also need an instrument approach to it or risk not getting in at times. This, I would bet someone would have to spend nearly a billion dollars just to build the runway and taxiways. You're not going to support that kind of weight on asphalt. |
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It would be a lot cheaper to keep the plane at Boise, Idaho Falls, Spokane, etc. Fly back and forth to the property in a helicopter...
But if you've got $20B anything's possible. One of those middle eastern Kings goes into Grand Junction with his A-340 and then takes something smaller up into the CO mountains. |