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3/1/2015 3:14:26 AM EDT
How do you like it. ADS-B? Military Flight Bag?

If I buy, it will be for military use primarily, and will probably end up with the military flight bag program (which is fuck off expensive for some reason).
3/1/2015 7:36:50 AM EDT
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Been using it for a couple of years. Have the box from sporty's for the moving map and weather . Chief pilot is talking about getting
us the synthetic display upgrade.we are flying with an older honeywell fms .I like  it a lot.
3/1/2015 10:45:22 AM EDT
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We just started using it in our Lear and have the synthetic vision setup. It's neat but on my last flight it crashed 4x in just over an hour. The flight plan interface is clunky and its lack of auto-updates is just silly. If you start updates and move to another ap the updates pause. So, for a few hours a week my iPad just sits there.

I prefer our jepp subscription because I look at it more like a tool and foreflight like a toy.
3/1/2015 11:28:16 AM EDT
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Hate to sound old school, but what new capability will it give you?  I can think of many better ways to spend $300/year!

3/1/2015 11:38:05 AM EDT
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I can see the value of a tool like foreflight in enhancing your SA just like moving maps do. I just don't think foreflight is there yet.
3/1/2015 11:48:42 AM EDT
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He can see in the dark and has 4-6 MFDs in his aircraft.  If anything an iPad can easily distract someone when so much information is already available.
3/1/2015 11:56:24 AM EDT
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We use it with our Unit purchased IPADs. The military flight bag program is nice, but we don't have it loaded on all the systems due to the fact that not all that necessary. We tested a few different programs but Foreflight seemed to be everyone's preference.

We have had it crash before and it took an update to fix. Test the system before use. Updates are like every other flight app out there and require the program to be actively running to update, you can't switch to another app.

99.99 % of our operations are IFR related of course and the program is great. They were a great tool for self deployments throughout the world.

Does your airframe AWR allow for personal use IPADs in the cockpit? Of course I know people use there own equipment, just a disclaimer.

WING-X will provide you with a complimentary subscription to their program if you email them from a .mil address. I use it for all my personal flying. They are also involved in the improvement of the PHAERO NGA app from .gov and approved for use, but it's no where near the level of Foreflight/Wing-X. The PHAERO app has all DOD pubs on it which is nice however.

In order to use the ADS-B function you would need a compatible receiver. Again, most of the AWRs restrict the use of the IPAD from wifi which is the common method of connection to the IPADs for most receivers.

Fltplan.com has a free app. It's still the #1 thing I use if I am going to use electronic flight planning, but the flight app portion can be buggy at times, but it's 100% free.

We have IFIS in our aircraft with Jepp charts, but I still prefer the IPAD for charts. We have all paper charts in the aircraft in compliance with the AWR and available. The IPAD only de-clutters the immediate cockpit in which there isn't a whole lot of room.




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How do you like it. ADS-B? Military Flight Bag?

If I buy, it will be for military use primarily, and will probably end up with the military flight bag program (which is fuck off expensive for some reason).
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3/1/2015 12:00:27 PM EDT
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He can see in the dark and has 4-6 MFDs in his aircraft.  If anything an iPad can easily distract someone when so much information is already available.
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I can see the value of a tool like foreflight in enhancing your SA just like moving maps do. I just don't think foreflight is there yet.


He can see in the dark and has 4-6 MFDs in his aircraft.  If anything an iPad can easily distract someone when so much information is already available.

Ok buddy.
3/1/2015 7:00:45 PM EDT
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He can see in the dark and has 4-6 MFDs in his aircraft.  If anything an iPad can easily distract someone when so much information is already available.
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I can see the value of a tool like foreflight in enhancing your SA just like moving maps do. I just don't think foreflight is there yet.


He can see in the dark and has 4-6 MFDs in his aircraft.  If anything an iPad can easily distract someone when so much information is already available.



Good points. My main usage out of it would be for weather and traffic on cross countries, and pubs. Lots of pubs. You are correct, I already have 5 huge MFDs and NVGs
3/1/2015 7:00:56 PM EDT
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I use Foreflight + a Stratus2 setup.

Being a NAFI member gets me 33% off, so going with the Pro version + synthetic vision was a no brainer.

I fly about 15 hours per month as a part time CFI. Haven't had it crash on me once yet.
3/1/2015 8:08:00 PM EDT
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You can buy pubs with your government fuel card.  If you're told different you're being lied too.  

My experience in the big army was that the more tech you give people the less they know what's going on.  More tech lets you make bigger mistakes faster.  

I had a guy hand-jam lat/long for an airport in Ohio into a steam guage Blackhawk one time.  Only he had decimal degrees and the aircraft uses decimal minutes.  He just truncated the numbers and punched it in so the coordinates were off by 30nm or so.  The airport was on the coast of Lake Erie and He went overwater a bit before he was asked if he knew where he was.  He didn'tknow what body of water he was over much less where Canada started.  He was just following a needle on the hsi.  

Extreme example from a dipshit, but you get the point.  Youre a Kiowa guy, look outside the aircraft for traffic!
3/1/2015 8:09:31 PM EDT
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I've got it on an iPad mini and I love it. It's never given me any problems.
3/1/2015 8:11:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Well, I do like shiny toys ..and the Chinook cockpit is full of them
3/3/2015 11:17:00 AM EDT
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My unit has them.  We use them for pubs, T.O.s, and foreflight.  We don't use most of the higher functions of foreflight, since we are mostly VFR.
Having several thousand pages of pubs and all your IAPs on an iPad certainly saves room and hassle in the cockpit.