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What’s an ISOM? More appropriately the question should be Where, not what. ISOM; Island South of Miami, so use your imagination where it is. The reason people use the term ISOM as a code word for cigars that have an embargo on them and are illegal in the states, and they think that by referring to them in code it will not attract the attention of the law. Whether or not this code employment is effective is unknown to me, perhaps it was effective before publishing this faq. If that’s the case, I apologize to every ISOM cigar smoker across the USA. Lets talk about that embargo and how it affects cigar economics. An embargo is a ban on goods coming from a country. Its purpose is to change behavior and/or reduce capitol from entering the embargoed country. It is essentially a ban or a prohibition, and we all know how ineffective those can be. People will still get the goods they want from the embargoed country, but it will be though black market avenues and the cost will be driven up because of risks the seller has to take and due to the smaller market. So this high price and black market with little controls opens up a new market, the counterfeit cigars market. It is now profitable for persons to fake ISOM cigars and sell them at the higher price that the embargo made. So what happened? The embargo drove up the price on cigars, it then made a new market for fake cigars of which the quality of the cigars may be as high as the original or it may be very low, and could possibly contain ingredients other than tobacco because there are no controls or oversight in place. A good analogy is the moonshine from the 1930’s. Some of it was bad stuff and could kill you due to the high content of lead in the shine because some folks used old lead soldered auto radiators for their distillate cooling. Now, you are not going to die or go blind by smoking an ISOM, but who knows what else may be in the cigar? Now, on the other side of fake ISOM’s is that some of the fakes can be actually quite good. This is speculated because some poor cigar rollers may take some cigar leaves or cuttings at the end of the day and roll up some cigars and resell them, some even have real bands. It’s not only ISOM’s that have been counterfeited; I have heard reports of Opus-X’s and Padrons being faked. Basically it comes down to; any cigar of questionable lineage worries me. I want to know that I am smoking 100% tobacco, not some mix of tobacco and whatever the fake maker decides to throw in to give it some Cuban like kick, er…I mean ISOM kick. Thus, I stick to reputable brands and retailers and present this faq so that you can (usually) tell the difference between a fake and the real deal. I am not telling you how to engage in violations of the Trading with the Enemies Act. That is up to you to decide. This is for informational and health concern purposes only. Check out these links for identification and examples: www.cigarnexus.com/counsel/counterfeit/index.html www.vitolas.net/thumbnails.php?album=19 |
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A common question by many new cigars smoker is the difference between Mold & Bloom? This is a very important distinction because if you don't know the difference you may easily throw away some very good cigars. Most molds found on cigars in any type of humidor are nearly always Green or Blue though sometimes other colors including white. If any of your cigars contain a dusting or growth of what appears to be mold you'll need to throw them away. Mold growth will normally be clumped together on a particular area of a cigar. From what people have told me in the cigar industry these molds are toxic, so just cleaning off the cigar and deciding to smoke the cigar is not a good idea. You'll probably make yourself very sick. A common reason why a cigar will have mold is humidor that has to much humidity. If your humidor has over 85% humidity then you'll start risking mold growth. Bloom is often confused for mold because of the similar appearance the two have. Bloom is nearly always white of a light cream color. I have found it normally grows near veins in the wrapper on the cigar. Bloom growth is also normally spread out over an entire cigar. Though bloom growth is different on every cigar. Bloom is caused by the natural oils in the cigar wrapper drying over a period of time. Bloom is considered by many to be an excellent sign of a well aged cigar. More commonly I have found that cigars stored in metal tubes have a much higher chance of having bloom. Since most tin cigar tubes are not air tight, air can still move in and out, thus allowing for a lot of bloom growth. This is because not cigar not being disturbed by outside air blowing across the cigar. If you are uncertain take your cigar to your local smoke shop and seek assistance from your local tobacconists. |
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Thanks LancerMc!
I would like to add that there can be white molds too. The key to discerning if it is mold, is that mold grows in colonies and has a structure. Bloom looks like someone sprinkled sugar on the cigar. And if anyone has any pics of bloom or mold, please submit them. I can host them if needed. |
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Flavored cigars in recent years have grown leaps and bounds not only in popularity but also in quality. When I first started selling cigars nearly a decade ago what few flavored cigars that were available were of dismal quality and production. Most were soaked in flavor syrups, but burned poorly and didn't last long. Today with companies like Drew Estate (ACID's, Java, & etc...) & CAO flavored cigars have begun to become a mainstream item at most cigar shops. The quality of some of the newer cigar companies is far ahead of their predecessors (especially Drew Estates) though there has always been a major draw. Storing them with other cigars. This is my opinion and others may have their own advice these are the rules I follow for storing flavored cigars. 1. Never store flavored cigars with regular cigars unless completely sealed in glass tube. Glass is really the only method a cigar can truly be stored in and not influence other cigars. Flavored cigars are often produced with flavor syrups, oils, spices, and other ingredients. These can easily be transfered to other cigars in a humidor. 2. My personal method is to buy a fairly large cigar box and a humidifier that matches its size. A cigar box is essentially a mini humidor. Don't use a flavored cigar box because if you store other types of flavored cigars in that box they will become flavored to that type of flavor as well. 3. If you have purchased multiple types of flavored cigars store them in separate ziplock bags in the humidor. Since I don't know anyone who ages their flavored cigars this mostly keep the different cigars from mingling with each other. If you age your flavored cigars you'll need to really only keep one type of cigar in the box. |
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Cigar Terms AROMA The smell of a burning cigar. BAND Label around the cigar. BARREL The body of the cigar. BEETLES Beetles that eat tobacco. They thrive at temperatures above 75f. BINDER A single leaf of tobacco wrapped around the filler to hold it together. BLOOM Specks on the wrapper caused by oils in the tobacco rising to the surface. Also, called Plume. May look like sugar crystals. Often confused with mold. Plume will uniform across the surface, and mold grows in patches. BODY The body of the cigar. Also may be a descriptor of smoke density and flavor intensity. BOUQUET The smell of an unlit cigar. BOX PRESS Square cigars. Made by using a square mold. CAP The circular piece of wrapper leaf placed at the head of the cigar to secure the wrapper. CELLO Cellophane cigar packaging. Much debate exists as to storing cigars with the cellos on or off is best. CIGAR OASIS Electronic active humidifier. Set it and forget it. COOLERDOR Humidor made from a new soda cooler and inexpensive parts. Features active or passive humidity controls, and passive temperature control. CURING The process of removing moisture from harvested tobacco. CUT FILLER Filler tobacco consisting of chopped pieces most common in machine-made cigars. CUTTER A device for clipping the end off a cigar. Ex: scissors with curved blades; guillotines, V-shaped notch. DRAW The flow of smoke from a cigar. It can be too easy (hot) or too tight (plugged) FILLER The tobacco that makes up the center of the cigar. There are two main types of filler, short and long. FINISH Aftertaste. FOOT Also called the "tuck," it's the end of the cigar that is lit. FRIGERADOR Humidor made from a wine cooler or mini-frige and other parts. Features active or passive temperature and humidity controls. HAND-ROLLED A cigar made entirely by hand with high quality wrapper and long filler. HEAD The end of the cigar that is placed in the mouth. HOT A cigar which has a quick, loose draw. This is caused by the cigar being under filled or under-humidified. It is usually accompanied by harsh flavor or mouth feel. HUMIDITY BEADS / CRYSTALS Beads that when charged with distilled water slowly releases humidity. HUMIDOR A box traditionally comprised of Spanish Cedar and other woods. Also humidors are also available as home made "Coolerdors" and "Frigeradors". The ideal environment should be 69°F and 69% relative humidity +/- 2. HUMI (see Humidor) ISOM Island South of Miami. LONG FILLER Whole leaves selected and rolled by hand to create a looser and easier draw of smoke. MACHINE MADE Cigars made entirely by machine. MOLD An evil fungus that forms on cigars when they are stored at too high a humidity. Mold will grow in colonies or patches that are usually white/grey. Also a device used in making cigars that gives it shape. OTTER BOX A hard plastic portable humidor that holds either 5 or 10 cigars. PALIO A brand of cigar cutter. PECTIN Used to glue the band and the tobacco cap of a cigar. PLUME (See BLOOM) PLUG A knot in a cigar that prevents a proper draw. PUCK Small humidifier that looks like a hockey puck. PUNCH A round cigar hole cutter, used instead of a standard cutter. Also a cigar brand. PURO A cigar whose filler, binder and wrapper come from the one country. RING GAUGE The diameter of a cigar. 1 gauge equals 1/64 of an inch. SHADE GROWN The wrapper leaf is grown under tents and is not exposed to direct sunlight. SHORT FILLER Chopped scraps of leaves, the result is a tight draw. SPLIT A crack down the side of a cigar, usually due to over humidification or rough handling. SUN GROWN Tobacco which is grown in direct sunlight. This creates thicker veins and a thicker leaf. TUBO A cigar that is packaged in a metal or glass tube. VEIN The rib of the tobacco leaf. WRAPPER The outermost tobacco leaf of the cigar, not the cellophane. XIKAR Manufacturers or cutters and lighters. |
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Cigar Sizes A cigar is measured by length and ring gauge (diameter). In US, the length is measured in inches and the diameter or ring gauge is measured in units of 1/64th of an inch. (Both length and diameter are measured in mm internationally) A 64-ring cigar would be one inch in diameter. Most cigars are between 32 and 52-ring size. For example, classic Churchill are 7 X 48, which means the cigar is 7 inches in length and 48/64 (3/4) inches in diameter. In general, the larger the ring gauges, the slower, “cooler” a cigar smokes, and the more room for the cigar maker to blend in different flavors. Also, the longer the cigar, the “slower” the flavors would build up, but tend to hold the flavors longer, and let the cigar maker blend in more complexity into the cigar. The size of a cigar has NO bearing on its body and strength, just the amount of time the smoker willing to “burn”. Cigar Shapes In general, cigars can be categorized into two basic shapes: Parejo and Figurado (irregular shapes). Parejo are straight cigars with a round cap. There are some basic shapes that that share common names. These shapes are given names, so that there is some degree of universality in the industry, but lately, the cigar makers are trending away from the standard names. Also most manufacturers uses these shapes as loose guidelines more than strict rules, for example, you can find Churchill ranges from 47 X 7 (standard Cuban Churchill size) to 52 X 7 (Gurkha’s Churchill size, larger than a Cuban Double Corona). These following descriptive dimensions are approximate, but here are some guidelines: Short is less than 5.5 inches, long is greater than 6.5 inches. Thin is less than 42 ring size and thick is greater than 47 ring. Manufacturers also add common adjectives to the shape name. Gorda, grande, gran, larga, extra, doble, or double means they are adding on to the size. Petite, slim, finos, or demi means some sort of reduction to the size. Parejo Belvedere, Ascot, Demitasse – less than 5 inches in length with a ring gauge between 30 and 36. Petite Corona – between 4 1/2 to 5 inches in length and a ring gauge between 40 and 42. Robusto or Rothschild – approximately 4 ½ to 5 ½ inches in length and a ring gauge of 48 or higher. Corona – approximately 5 1/2 inches long and a ring gauge of around 42. Corona Extra or Corona Royale - 5 3/4 inches in length and a ring gauge between 44 and 46. Panatela – about 6 to 6 1/2 inches in length with a ring gauge between 34 and 39. Lonsdale - about 6 inches in length and a ring gauge of approximately 43. Corona Grandes, Toro - 6 to 6 ½ inches in length and a ring gauge between 44 and 46. Churchill – named after Sir Winston Churchill (rumor to be his favorite size cigar and have RyJ Habano specially made these cigars for him) is 7 inches in length with a ring gauge of 47 to 48. Double Corona, Long Panatela - 7 1/2 to 8 inches long and a ring gauge of 49 to 52. Gigante, Presidente, “A”, Giant or Immensa – at least 8 1/2 inches long and a ring gauge ranging from 48 to 54+. Figurado Diademas – at least 8+ inches long with a closed head and foot. The ring gauge increases towards the foot. Belicoso - approximately 6 inches long and a ring gauge of 48 with a pointed cone shaped cap. Petite Belicoso – less than 5 inches long and a ring gauge of 40 with a pointed cone shaped cap. Pyramid - 6 to 7 inches long and tapers down from a ring gauge of 52 at the foot and 42 (~7/10 inch) at the head with a pointed, cone shaped head. Perfecto – varies in length and ring gauge. Has a rounded shaped head, bulge in the body, and a closed foot. Torpedo – varies in length and ring gauge. Has a pointed cone shaped head, bulge in the body, and a relatively flat foot. Culebra – Three cigars each 5 to 6 inches long with a ring gauge of 34 (~1/2 inch) that are intertwined. The cigars have to be unwound to be smoked. In order to avoid breakage, cigars must be very well humidified. There are other special made figurados (for example Opus X BBMF, LMMF, Shark) that are not one of the “standard” sized for special releases that is beyond references of this text. Another confusing point, the numbered cigar like Monticristo #2, Anejo #77, Siglo VI, these are numbers used exclusively by the individual cigar maker. There are no standard numbering system that describes sizes and shapes. Here are some examples: Monticristo #1 is more or a Petite Corona but a Davidoff Anny No. 1 is a “A” size cigar. Anejo #77 is a Pryamid with a ring gauge of 77 at the foot. Just about the only “uniform” number is #2, which is basically a Belicoso. Reference: JR Cigars, Cheaphumidors.com, and cigar.com |
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There are two purposes of a humidor. The primary purpose is to store the cigar in an environment similar to when the cigar is rolled and aged, which ideally is 70/70 (70 degree F and 70% humidity). The second purpose is to age the cigars, and with aging, any cigar gets better with aging. Why 70/70 70 degree F and 70% humidity is a close approximation of the weather in cigar producing countries like Cuba, Dominican Republic…etc. At that temperature and humidity, the oils of the cigar tend not to evaporate and surpress the hatching of the tobacco bug, and the cigar stay good for extended period of time (years to decades). So a humidor is basically a mini weather chamber in which your cigars are stored. There are other temperatures and humidity settings, which will be addressed in the Humidor and Hydrometer section. Types of Humidors There are several types of humidors, including coolerdors, traditional Spanish Cedar humidors, fridgerador, cabinet humidors and walk-in humidors. Coolerdors and Fridgedors were addressed in another posting, so this post mainly addresses Spanish Cedar box type and cabinet type humidors. Box Type Humidors Box type humidors are designed to hold up to 500 cigars, and some of them are large enough to hold boxes. The price range goes from $0 (giveaways) to several thousand dollars, depending on where the humidor was made, workmanship, details, and exterior finishes. For example, JR Cigars routinely gives away 50 count humidors for free when you place an order with them, where-as a presentation grade 25 cigars DuPont, Davidoff, or Ashton humidor starts over $1,000. Cabinet Humidors Cabinet humidors are designed to hold up over 500 cigars, and most are intended to hold complete boxes with drawers for individual cigars. The price range goes from several hundred dollars to over ten thousand dollars, depending on where the humidor was made, options, workmanship, details, and exterior finishes. For example, Cheap Humidor sells a tower cabinet for several hundred dollars, where-as high end cabinets like Aristocrat cabinet humidors with active humidifier, coolers, circulating fans, and electronic controllers can cost more than $2,000 each. Walk-in Humidors These are large humidors that can accommodate hundreds to thousands boxes of cigars. Chances are, your local cigar shop should have one. These are a custom build humidor that require a skilled builder(s), and is beyond the discussion of this FAQ. Selecting a Humidor Here are some guidelines for selecting a humidor: Count Humidors are sized with counts, from 5 cigars to thousands, but the counts are not standardized. For example, a 50 count box humidor can accommodate 50 corona or robusto size cigar, and might contain maybe 35 or less churchills, double coronas, and much less if it comes to size “A” cigars. Rule of thumb, always purchase a larger size humidor than you think you wanted Finish What finish does the buyer want, if the humidor is going to be displayed like a piece of furniture, then the good finish is required. Good wood finish requires quality wood, and hours of skilled work. A genuine piano gloss black or polish walnut finished 50 count humidor can command thousands of dollars. On the other hand, if the humidor is not going to be displayed, then a plain laminate finish like the Chinese made humidor should do well. Seals and Joints It is very important a humidor have very good seals and joints. Joints can be inspected by looking at the internal finishing details (gaps in the Spanish cedar are signs there are potential problems). To check for gaps in a humidor, place a flashlight (we all have Surefire) in the humidor, close the lid and turn off the light to look for any light leakage. The lid seal of a desk top humidor need to be examined carefully. Pieces of Spanish cedar protruding into the inset of the lid might not do seal very well, as compared to machined matching grooves between the lids and box. For most cabinet humidor, a good quality door seal is required, plus how true the door was hung. A thick foam seal will do a good job, but the best cabinet humidors have “D” or “P” type seals. Construction Details Look for construction details like well deburred and rounded corners, which are signs of how much attention the manufacturer paid when putting together your humidor. Other details to pay attention to are the hardware, make sure they are either brass or stainless steel, due to the elevated humidity. If your humidor have glass, pay attention to the joint of the glass and wood, which are potential leakage points. Other details like paint overspray inside the humidor will guarantee that your cigars will have a paint chemical smell. |
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Thanks Leungken!
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CIGAR USE AND YOUR HEALTH
The Center for Disease Control's (CDC) mailing a few months back has some interesting info. I entered the more relevant/interesting data below. This info is updated and as recent as March of 2007. Cigars contain the same toxic and carcinogenic compounds found in cigarettes and are not a safe alternative to cigarettes. Large cigars, cigarillos, and little cigars are the three major types of cigars sold in the United States. In 2005, cigar sales in the United States rose 15.3% and generated more than $2.9 billion in retail sales. Health Effects Regular cigar smoking is associated with an increased risk for cancers of the lung, oral cavity, larynx, and esophagus. Heavy cigar smokers and those who inhale deeply may be at increased risk for developing coronary heart disease and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Current Estimates In 2005, an estimated 5.6%, or 13.6 million Americans, 12 years of age or older, were current cigar users. An estimated 6.9% of African American, 6.0% of white, 4.6% of Hispanic, 10.9% of American Indian/Alaska Native, and 1.8% of Asian American adults are current cigar smokers. An estimated 14.0% of students in grades 9–12 in the United States are current cigar smokers. Cigar smoking is more common among males (19.2%) than females (8.7%) in these grades. An estimated 5.3% of middle school students in the United States are current cigar smokers. Estimates are higher for middle school boys (6.7%) than girls (3.8%). Other Information of Relevance The two leading brands preferred by cigar smokers aged 12 years or older are Black & Mild (22.8%) and Swisher Sweets (14.4%). Marketing efforts have promoted cigars as symbols of a luxuriant and successful lifestyle. Endorsements by celebrities, development of cigar-friendly magazines (e.g., Cigar Aficionado), features of highly visible women smoking cigars, and product placement in movies have contributed to the increased visibility of cigar smoking in society. Since 2001, cigar packaging and advertisements must display one of five health warning labels on a rotating basis. References/Sources/Stats of interested MY personal favorite statistic I found is below INTERESTING DATA SET OF CIGAR USE: Cigar Brands Used Most Often During the Past Month among Past Month Cigar Smokers, by Age Group: Percentages, 2004 and 2005 Just some very interesting numbers based on brand so I thought I would include it! The rest of the list is below. cancercontrol.cancer.gov/tcrb/monographs/9/index.html profiles.nlm.nih.gov/NN/B/C/D/W/ oas.samhsa.gov/nsduh/2k5nsduh/tabs/Sect2peTabs42to46.pdf www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5505a1.htm www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5412a1.htm www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/cigarlabel.shtm Let me know if there are any specific questions via IM I should ad to this and I will get it updated. |
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This is a great FAQ, thanks for the tips!
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New to the forum and was having trouble maintaining proper humidity in my humidor. FAQ answered all my questions and solved all my problems. Thanks!!
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Awesome.
Recommended shopping venues? Cigars International? |
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cigarcyclopedia.com is now gone These places aint too bad IMHO www.cigarsinternational.com/ cigarbid.com jrcigar.com www.famous-smoke.com/ lilbrown.com website sucks, phone your order in. They have everything. bestcigarprices.com |
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Originally Posted By gaspain:
Originally Posted By danpass:
Awesome. Recommended shopping venues? Cigars International? check this site first, they list all retailers for lowest price, click comparison shopper These places aint too bad IMHO www.cigarsinternational.com/ cigarbid.com jrcigar.com www.famous-smoke.com/ lilbrown.com website sucks, phone your order in. They have everything. bestcigarprices.com This site closed down at the end of Jan. |
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Custom Travel Humidor by: W3ap0n-X
Using this: Case $38 with free shipping. And four of these: Foam Inserts $20 after shipping. After adding a humidity stick I can safely carry 23 Churchill sized cigars! My Pelican case is orange, though (which costs about $4 more on Amazon) |
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I wanted to add...only three trays fit in the Pelican 1200. The measurements came out that four would fit (I thought) but only three did so I've only got an 18 count traveldor and after adding a humistick I can hold 17 churchhills and one robusto. A very indestructible case that I'm hoping will survive a float trip.
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Then there are always these...
Case No mess, no fuss...if you are patient, you can find them for the same "build this" price. They come with a nice gel humidifier too...cut into the lid, mounts on a magnet. Echo |
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My husband and i own a cigar lounge we love cigars and protection we also have awesome pipes
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Originally Posted By glockgirl13:
My husband and i own a cigar lounge we love cigars and protection we also have awesome pipes View Quote Welcome... Where is your shop? We have folks from all over the world here so chances are, there will be someone near that just might want to stop by. Echo |
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Recommended shopping venues?
http://www.bnbtobacco.com/ This online cigar site also provides many offers at discounted prices |
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Not sure if if it can be done, but is there a way to update the FAQ post as the photos no longer work?
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Originally Posted By Ductape009: Not sure if if it can be done, but is there a way to update the FAQ post as the photos no longer work? View Quote If you have content you would like to add, I can edit the faq. But, considering its 8 years old....it probably needs re-writing and updating. I don't have time to do it, but if you want to do it yourself...feel free to ask the mod of the forum and start a new one. |
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