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11/24/2009 5:18:18 AM EDT
Ok we moved in our house last winter and the lawn was trashed......  The house needed some repairs so we did that during the cold months and last spring I tired seeding the lawn...

Well that's the short of it.  After seeding with a "tall fescue" blend from the local nursery and giving it about a month and a half it didn't take.  Next we tried some Scotts "Grow Anywhere" seed that was a blend of tall fescue, rye, and blue grass.  About 80% of that took in the back yard and about 20% in the front.  The back yard has some massive bald spots and I've tried tilling and reseeding to no avail.  Front front yard is overran with Bermuda grass that is now dead due to the temps.  Basiclly with the fescue, bermuda, and native rye grass the yard looks like shit.

So here is what I am looking for and may be impossible.  Is there a quick and easy way to plant a year round grass without tilling or grading the whole yard?  Two problems here is the yard is full of rocks about 5" below grade and roots from all the trees would make tilling a nighmare.  I also don't want to dump a bunch of cash in it due to the fact it will either be a rental or torn down in two years.  I guess I am looking for a uniform green grass that will grow year round, the climate is 4000ft elevation with about 10-15" of rain on a very good year I forget what zone we are but I can look it up if needed.  Temps range from 100* as a high in the summer and 15-20* as a low in the winter.

Is this just wishful thinking or is this possible to pull off.
11/24/2009 5:23:12 AM EDT
[#1]
Contact your local county extension service and find out what works for your area, also your local Master Gardner program could help you.
11/24/2009 7:24:23 PM EDT
[#2]
Find a way to test your soil.  It sounds like you have garbage soil.  It may be as easy to fix as spreading some lime around.  Many garden centers provide the service as well as local .gov.  Prices range from free to expensive so shop around.
11/26/2009 8:34:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Find a way to test your soil.  It sounds like you have garbage soil.  It may be as easy to fix as spreading some lime around.  Many garden centers provide the service as well as local .gov.  Prices range from free to expensive so shop around.


In the desert southwest, we almost never need lime as a soil ammendment.  Our soil is usually alkaline, sometimes seriously alkaline.  Adding lime would only make that condition worse.  However, you are spot on about checking and correcting the pH.  Check your soils pH and adjust if necessary.

The key to any grass lawn is proper ammedments and soil preparation.  You may not like the prospect of roto-tilling ammendments into the soil but that is what you should probably do.  Just do it.  You get to choose how deep.

Thr rocks have to go.  

After the earlier seedings, did you top coat with "Topper"?  

Grass seed should germinate and sprout in days, not weeks.  Was your grass seed fresh?
12/1/2009 2:22:49 AM EDT
[#4]
Take a cup or two of soil to extension office and have them test soil ph, and pick the master gardener's brains on what to do. The soil test is usually about $5.00, the advice is free.
12/1/2009 1:27:24 PM EDT
[#5]
How frequently were you watering?

IME, new seed needs to be watered 3x a day, about 20-40 minutes per watering (depending on sprinkler type).
12/1/2009 5:52:54 PM EDT
[#6]
In AZ, you're probably not going to find a year round grass.

At this point in the year, it's probably going to be difficult to get anything going.  You might consider paying someone to hydoseed in the spring.
12/2/2009 7:39:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Do you have trees in the area?  A large tree will make an insane root structure that will span a couple properties and even start under slabs.  These roots will totally fook a lawn.  You also need a shit ton of water.  If your water bill is less than $200 a month, you aren't using enough.  

4000 ft?.............

I suggest ripping it and installing ROCKS.............
12/2/2009 8:26:52 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Do you have trees in the area?  A large tree will make an insane root structure that will span a couple properties and even start under slabs.  These roots will totally fook a lawn.  You also need a shit ton of water.  If your water bill is less than $200 a month, you aren't using enough.  

4000 ft?.............

I suggest ripping it and installing ROCKS.............


?????

I have the nicest grass in my neighborhood.  I have 3 mature citrus trees in my front yard and 2 mature citrus trees in my back yard.

My water bill averages $150 in the summer and $75 in the winter.  That's with 2 adults and 3 children living in the house.