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5/22/2009 7:28:28 AM EDT
out of railroad ties... the "nice" ones... not the nasty black ones with tar all over them.



My wife said her friend used pressure treated ones. My friends said they're treated with arsenic and possibly other nasty chemicals that might not be very kid friendly.



True or false?



Better alternatives?
5/22/2009 9:23:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
out of railroad ties... the "nice" ones... not the nasty black ones with tar all over them.

My wife said her friend used pressure treated ones. My friends said they're treated with arsenic and possibly other nasty chemicals that might not be very kid friendly.

True or false?

Better alternatives?


CCA (Chromated Copper Arsenate)  treated lumber is no longer available at retail.
The arsenic has been removed and more copper compounds used.

Make sure it has a cover or cats will treat it like the large litter box it appears to be.

5/22/2009 10:38:29 AM EDT
[#2]
Thank you.



I figure I'll do some sort of tarp with bungees for a cover. We'll see... my weekend project while the family is away.
5/26/2009 10:32:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Took me for ever... not the actual building part

8.5x8.5 feet of sanboxy goodness.

or

8.5x8.5 feet of a giant pain in my ass.



Used 12ea 4x4 railroad ties or timbers or whatever the hell they're called.

8ea 2ft pieces of rebar and 4ea 10inch spikes.

Had
to clear >8.5ft of ivy to avoid it growing through the bottom.
Sounds easy enough but it took several hours to put it lightly. For
every one ivy root/vine pulled a huge net or overlapping ones comes up
with it that usually goes about 3-5ft in every direction. Not to
mention to 1in roots.



But it's done... just need that special sand my wife wants that isn't like that fine beach sand but more the kind our son can make castles and stuff out of. She can truck that shit in though.

5/26/2009 5:51:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Son, I would have given you a free one the next time you visit.  Seriously, just getting ready to take my sons apart.
5/27/2009 3:48:49 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


Son, I would have given you a free one the next time you visit.  Seriously, just getting ready to take my sons apart.


That would have been a hike from NJ to pick up the pieces... but thanks dad.



 
5/27/2009 6:30:20 AM EDT
[#6]
The gas would have been cheaper than the lumber.
5/27/2009 6:37:39 AM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


The gas would have been cheaper than the lumber.


But also a pain in the ass to drive 1.5-2 hours one way to pick it up. I got 4 of the timbers for nothing from a friend so I only paid for 8. But thanks for the after thought.




 
5/27/2009 9:38:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

Quoted:
The gas would have been cheaper than the lumber.

But also a pain in the ass to drive 1.5-2 hours one way to pick it up. I got 4 of the timbers for nothing from a friend so I only paid for 8. But thanks for the after thought.
 




As always, you're welcome!
5/27/2009 9:52:28 AM EDT
[#9]
Is it a bad idea to paint pressure treated wood/timbers?

Does Home Depot sell pressure treated 2x6 planks?
5/27/2009 10:02:24 AM EDT
[#10]
pressure treat needs a year in the sun before you can get paint to stick



http://www.quikrete.com/ProductLines/SandPremiumPlay.asp
5/27/2009 10:35:14 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


pressure treat needs a year in the sun before you can get paint to stick

http://www.quikrete.com/ProductLines/SandPremiumPlay.asp


Yeah... come to think of it, that wood was kind of wet-ish



My wife is pricing a pick-up truck bed full of sand to fill this sucker. We'd need a TON of those 50lb bags.



 
5/27/2009 11:01:03 AM EDT
[#12]
just don't get sharp sand for play sand

My Father in Law made an "unfun" sandbox
5/27/2009 11:15:56 AM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


just don't get sharp sand for play sand

My Father in Law made an "unfun" sandbox


Sharp sand? As in broke up glass?



 
5/28/2009 2:42:02 PM EDT
[#14]
See if there is a quarry around you ...much better price.

I filled two pickup trucks to fill mine...$25 a ton.
5/28/2009 3:44:21 PM EDT
[#15]
sharp sand is coarse, gritty and clumps into wads

play sand is sifted, finer grained and much softer to play in.

Sharp sand is a mix of ungraded, coarse sands often with small (sharp) rock chips in it.  Good for balast, concreting, and not much else.

Builder's sand is mostly an ungraded product.  It is used for a wide variety of purposes, especially in construction (i.e., for ballast, for good drainage when laid under brick paving, or mixing with cement to make morter).     Builder's sand may also be mixed with heavy (clay) soils in the garden to improve drainage.  Sometimes called "soft" or "orange" sand in the trade, to distinguish from sharp sand.

Masonry sand is a graded variant of builder's sand, rather better for bricklaying and patios.  Also called bricklayer's sand.

Silver sand is a mix of graded sand and fine loam; it can be used for bricklaying (light coloured morter), top-dressing lawns, patio concrete and (sometimes) instead of playsand.

Playsand the softest and most graded sand available. The only one really suitable for sandpits.
5/28/2009 6:27:33 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Used 12ea 4x4 railroad ties or timbers or whatever the hell they're called.
8ea 2ft pieces of rebar and 4ea 10inch spikes.



I count 8 4x4s. Where did you use the other 4?

I'm interested in building this... can you show how you assembled the sides and how you used the rebar and spikes please?

Txs!

-3D
5/29/2009 2:26:01 AM EDT
[#17]
although you can't build sand castles out of it, I noticed a playground that filled theirs with pea gravel.

The kids still loved to play in it, and no literbox action since it isn't sand.
5/29/2009 10:44:39 PM EDT
[#18]
My wife's gf got us some sand today.

Her husband is the top guy at a gold course and she brought over a pick-up truck bed full of bunker sand. Perfect sand box sand.
5/30/2009 8:07:21 PM EDT
[#19]
the sackrete plans have a good design

the sandbox is surrounded with a brick patio

this keeps sand out of the yard & yard out of the sandbox
5/31/2009 5:26:14 AM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


the sackrete plans have a good design



the sandbox is surrounded with a brick patio



this keeps sand out of the yard & yard out of the sandbox


I thought about doing that.... we're getting a patio done with pavers... might keep a few off to the side for around the box... if not my neighbor has a PILE of bricks behind his shed I could snag``





 
5/31/2009 12:27:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

Quoted:
the sackrete plans have a good design

the sandbox is surrounded with a brick patio

this keeps sand out of the yard & yard out of the sandbox

I thought about doing that.... we're getting a patio done with pavers... might keep a few off to the side for around the box... if not my neighbor has a PILE of bricks behind his shed I could snag``

 


Go to your local materials place, don't use sand, use pea gravel. It's much safer and you'll never worry about rain taking it away or having standing water in your sand box. It took 2 tons of pea gravel at like $9 a ton to fill my last sandbox, it was roughly 6" deep by 12' long by 10' wide. Sand was so 1980's.