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11/26/2007 5:23:24 PM EDT
I am looking into getting a fireplace insert for my house

The local company can get me one, but the offer no warranty, technical assistance or install services.

The company in Anchorage (350 miles away) can also sell me one.  They said they have local people they can reccomend to install but to pay someone is foolish because it is simple "if you have any mechanical knowdelge at all"

So, my question is.....

Just how hard is it

I have some mechanical skill and can count on my Dad who has much more.  I asked him about it and he said he had no idea because he had never seen one.

Is this a project we will regret not going pro on or is it something we could tackle in a day or two?
11/27/2007 1:23:09 PM EDT
[#1]
I think the hardest part is getting the insert into the fireplace. They are just HEAVY. I'm pretty sure you also have to have a liner put into the chimney which attaches to the top of the insert. After that is hooked up, just install the metal skirts around the sides and top and that should be it. I helped my Dad long ago with one and he isn't very mechanically skilled and the thing still works.

mfn
11/27/2007 7:00:14 PM EDT
[#2]
depends on the type of insert, I'm assuming wood.  IF local codes allow direct connects, it's a pretty easy (but heavy) install.  I'm just not sure if they are allowed anymore, or if you have to run the vent all the way to the top.
Direct connect:


If you have to do a full chimney liner then you may have to remove some masonry to allow the liner to 'bend' a little.  that may require some judicious chiseling away of the inside of the chimney...don't know if I'd be up for it...



Link to explanation of the two.  If you can do the full chimney liner, do that as they are much more efficient and easier to maintain and clean.

www.woodheat.org and
www.hearth.com/
are two very good resources on fireplaces and wood burning.  
11/27/2007 11:27:19 PM EDT
[#3]
My name is John

Thank you
We actually have no buiilding codes where I live (good and bad)
Your explanation was helpful, and yes wood burning insert
11/30/2007 9:59:58 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
My name is John

Thank you
We actually have no buiilding codes where I live (good and bad)
Your explanation was helpful, and yes wood burning insert


  Your insurance company will probably require the installation be installed according to NFPA 211 guidlines.  The best method is to install a liner all the way to the top of the chimney.  A partial liner, or direct connect, is difficult to clean and REQUIRES removal to remove brushed deposits.  

  You can purchase a liner kit with all the necessary components.  Make sure you purchase insulation for the liner.  In your area it will drastically reduce the amount of creosote build-up and inprove draft.  If you have standard 13x13 inch flue tiles and purchase an insert requiring a 6" liner, the whole package should slide right down.  Removal of the damper frame will be necessary and is accomplished with a hammer, chisel, sawzall, etc.  You may have to remove the top row of firebrick in the firebox.  For a one story house the whole deal can easily be installed in a day by most people.  Just be sure to read and understand all the installation instructions BEFORE you start.

If the retailer you purchase the stove from recommends an oval liner, beg him for a way to connect it with a round liner.  It is much easier to clean and install a round liner.


Also be sure the current chimney is free of combustible deposits before installing the new insert.

If you have any doubts, have someone else do it.  Just make sure they are not hacks.