[ARCHIVED THREAD] - X-Men III (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/30/2006 10:14:40 AM EDT
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Let me just say a few words before I start cussing again. My girlfriend and myself agreed to forget that we ever saw this movie. Of the two movies I have seen in this past week, this is by far the most sacriligeous blasphemous piece of shit that has ever been produced. This makes the Da Vinci Toad look like a fairy tale. Let's take every single precept and part of the X-men and shit on them. I can't think of a better way to absolutely fuck up a story line than was done in this movie. I would rather watch a Michael Moore movie than ever see this shit again. Thanks and goodnight. |
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Didn't think it was that bad. But the did kill off ever making aother one, and from what I remeber from the comics they didn't follow them at all. I hope they do the same thing they did with Highlander 2(act like it never happen), and come out with new ones that follow the comics. |
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I'm sure glad that people get so riled up about a comic book series. If people in this country got as worked up about the 2nd amendment and illegal immigration as they did X-men, Star Trek, Star Wars, etc, I bet our govt would have no choice but to listen. I saw the movie and thought it was pretty good. It wasn't great, but honestly I can't say any great movies have come out in a while. I never followed the comics, so I really didn't care if it followed any sort of plot relating to them though. |
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I thought that overall it was very good. Admittedly, they tried to do too much, but overall I thought the movie was entertaining. I have noticed, however, that the comic book crowd doesn't like it. Yes, they changed things, but did you really expect them to have Jean Grey become the Dark Phoenix by coming into contact with a magical crystal of inordinate power, and then destroy a solar system out of power lust, bringing her into conflict with three powerful alien empires, one of which is ruled by a former love interest of Professor Xavier?  IMHO they should have introduced Jean as the Phoenix in this movie but left the resolution of that thread for a fourth movie. Also, her descent into madness needed a more human moral conflict to it. "She's just nuts" was kinda lame. Moreover, she was the only interesting love interest in the series (the kiddie's don't count) and it wa sa mistake to kill her character off in this movie. |
You didn't stay till the actual end of the movie did you? I have never been a fan of the comic, let alone read any of them. I think it was maybe the best X-Men movie yet. I found it to be the most enjoyable movies I have seen since V. |
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I have a theory that the X-Men movies, and probably the comic books, are a Hollywood ploy to mainstreamify homosexuality. "We're normal." "We were born this way." "We are the way of the future." "We don't need a cure." But then again, I was a film student once, and haven't quite managed to shake those memories away. I'm not a big fan of superhero/comic book movies anyway. |
I'm not even a film student, and I was thinking the same thing... |
Good to see that there's at least one person that doesn't think I'm a nut job. I told them that when they went to go see the movie, to replace each instance of the word "mutant" with "gay". It produces the same humorous effect that replacing "Islam" with "Religion of Peace" does. 
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X-Men resonates very well with homosexual teens. And the actor who plays Magneto is openly gay. In repsonse to the thread originator, I took one of my friends, who is a die-hard X-Men fan and he was muttering throughout the entire movie complaining about how Hollywood had ruined the original stories. |
FYI, this is the comic book story of Jean as the Dark Phoenix.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Phoenix Somehow I don't think this would translate well into a 2 hour movie. 
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just FYI, the director of the first two movies is gay, so its not surprising that the trend runs through the movies. Some of that could've been left out IMHO. But the third movie was good, the only bad reviews I've read are from the uber-nerds that disagreed with story line stuff. I think they crammed too much into the movie, and some of the acting was so so, but I had a blast. |
Yea....so when Marvel or DC does a retcon it's ok, then? Face it, comic books are not immutable storylines. The only thing worth complaining about is how Roque is a goth pussy who's all angsty about not being able to get laid - but to explain the whole mystique raising her; stealing ms. marvel's powers, was proabably too much for the movies. |
Thats right I remeber hearing about somthing at the end, I didn't stay past the park and the chess. I did enjoy the movie, but didn't come away with the "best movie ever" feeling. |
Thats right I remeber hearing about somthing at the end, I didn't stay past the park and the chess. I did enjoy the movie, but didn't come away with the "best movie ever" feeling. Also if you or someone else wouldn't mind IMing me what happen .
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| Well, I grew up with the X-men and Spiderman and I thought the movie was good. I think it would be a boring movie if I knew exactly what was going to happen next. Movies are always distorted versions of the originals, knowing this I can relax and enjoy the ride. And I will probably enjoy the ride (X III) again this evening. |
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actuallythe xmen comics were an outcry atthe racism and hatred towards others in that time the view that minorities (mutants) were lower species and mistakes, and how sometimes there were militant groups that attempted to attain superioirty through viloence and terrorism blackpanthers (the brotherhood of mutants) ok im done btw the movie was good didnt followthe comic but still was an incredible movie nonetheless |
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Stay Through the credits...I was ready to puke by the end of the movie. Why would I possibbly want to stay any longer. Maybe the movie was laced with homo double speak, but the fact that you could take a story line directly from the comics and then shit on every character and plotline and do a "hollywood" rewrite is just shit. When will hollywood realize that the REASON that things like comics or books are so popular is because the original author did a good job. Some fucking hack with a straw up his nose is not going to rewrite things to be better. That's what pisses me off the most. As far as the 2nd amendment comments......we keep electing assholes who want to sell our asses to the mexicans...gee who did you vote for? I was warning people that if you give a shit about the x-men then let this crap pass you by. If you don't have a clue then go see it. Really. If you don't understand why the Juggernaut scene was so frikken stupid then you probably will enjoy it. Similar to the Da Vinci Toad...if you don't understand why Iesus SHOULD have been married, then don't worry about it. |
| I liked the movie. I liked it because it was darker then the others and I dig that. As far as the homo allusion; You guys are reading into the movie to much, and your spoiling it for yourself. As far as for more sequels, did you stay all the way through the credits? If you did then you would see a 10 sec clip, and I won't spoil it. And by the way, "they" might be making a Wolverine movie series and a Magneto movie series. And another word to the wise, don't expect a movie to be the same as a novel, comic book, tv series, ect. You will only be setting yourself up for disapointment. |
I was reading about some of the comic story lines (having never read a comic book ever myself) and Jesus Christ what a goat fuck. THERE IS NO COHERENT/CONSISTENT STORY in the comics! I just wanna yell "STFU NERDS!" Personally, I liked the movie. 
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| Why can't we see a movie that is the same? We are not talking some Johnny come lately like Harry Pothead or the Da vinci Code. We are talking about a series that has a history going back over 40 years. People like myself have been readin these for our entire lives. And hollywood shits on them. Take every remake or redo that you have ever seen and realize that hollywood always fucks it up. |
No kidding. The comics themselves have changed the characters' back-stories so many times it's hard to keep up. That's that last damn thing any of the comics-nerds should be complaining about. |
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the movie was terrible. I dont understand why hollywood can't just stick to an original story line instead of altering everything. I was going to download it because I had a sneaking suspicion that it was going to suck, and if I liked it I would go support it, but did I? No. I actually paid $8.75 to watch something that by the end I was amazingly dissappointed. Save your money. In fact pay me the money that you would spend to see the movie and I will give you a kick in the face: 1) it is a better way to feel dumber, cause at least you get to say you got in a fight 2) it is quick and easy, you wont need to waste 2 hours of you time. |
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I grew up reading X-men. I thought the movie sucked a big rubbery one. They killed off 2 important characters with little to no fanfare. There was no drama to Scott finding Jean alive. There were no memorable fight scenes. The second one blew everyone away with the opening scene of Nightcrawler attacking the White House. Then he's not even mentioned in the third movie. Rogue, one of the main characters from the first two films, kinda just... left. They didn't feature her at all. Wolverine all of the sudden became the caring father figure instead of the badass who just don't give a fuck. Mystique, another main character, was pretty much just dropped out of the franchise altogether. Prof. X had little to no drama in his death. And the two mutants they introduced, Beast and Angel, had lame and almost insignificant roles. Now lets move onto plot. They tried to take the universe-shattering saga that was the Phoenix and fit it into another one of Magneto's plots. Jean's all-powerful cosmic abilities seemed no more than Linda Blair's character in the Exorcist. Magneto gets a bunch of dumbass extras from the movie, The Warriors, to be his army (these kids probably won some contest to be in the movie) and goes stomping off to fight some "cure" that the government cooked up. The director and writer didn't flesh out the kid who was the cause of all this. He was just sorta there. And when all was said and done, everybody is happy and the world is perfect again. The government loves mutants and appoints one to the UN. Wolverine and Storm take on the parents role at the school and all the mutant kids come back to Hogwarts for another year of classes with Harry fuckin Potter. Oh, and let's not forget that Rogue comes back without her powers. Arguably the strongest member of the team is now usless. Thanks Brett Ratman for slaughtering a great franchise! |
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I just saw it today.. Awsome movie and special effects. I didn't see anything plastered on the screen about homosexualality. OK.. Maybe one. The individual with the sonic clap looked like a transvestite. I'm going to miss Mystique in Blue  , but the ending made it look like Magneto was getting his powers back.
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That's because the creator co directed/wrote it. X-Men did have Stan Lee on as a producer so...
I thought she looked like a transvestite too. Believe it or not it was actually a female. There is some site with a bunch of naked pictures of her that somebody on the IMDB linked. She has a decent rack, but the body and face of a young boy. |
Because the average tom, dick, and harry, doesn't know the 40-year backstory and can't be expected to know that Logan is a 100+ year old mutant with enhanced healing powers who fought with Captain America, got adamantium bonded to his skeleton in a top secret Canadian project, had an affair with another clawed (adamantium-less) freak which ended badly, and later had the adamantium sucked out of his skeleton through his pores by a holocaust survivor with the ability to manipulate metal. Nor do you want to start from scratch, because, frankly, not all the storylines were good. The screen is a different medium from the book. The only person who seemed to understand this was Douglas Adams. |
Don't forget that it was later revealed that his claws are natural and adamantium only covers them! The claws weren't unnatural and put there purposely afterall! Then he so conveniently gets the adamantium put back on his skeleton again. Also, the Incredible Hulk picked up an entire mountain range. I'm sorry but crap like that just gets stupid.
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Why should there be fanfare? Should there have been media coverage like with the death of Superman? That was such shit. Xavier's death was dramatic - it was the two most powerful telepaths squaring off and he lost. I thought that established Jeah's powers pretty clearly. I liked the gritty feel of the movie, it eliminated a lot of the cheese factor when you have heroes that always win. My favorite storylines are the ones in which heroes die without being announced an issue in advance. |
I just thought there should have been some more drama to the fact that the guy lost the love of his life and then finds her alive. And then she kills him. At the same time, they were majorly developed and established charactes from the first two movies (and the comic). Granted, I stopped reading the comics about 10 years ago, but there just should have been more to it. Also, there was no death scene that established Jean as being evil now. If we had seen Cyclops die by her hand, then it would have really brought the point down and been that much more powerful. |
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I personally liked it. It was what it was. Mindless entertainment. Cyclops did not die. They never showed a dead body, same with Jean during the end of the 2nd one. I can't wait till the next one. Those that stayed after the credits know what I am talking about. 
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I liked the movie. I liked it even more when she lost her powers 
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as An X-men fan... That sucked major ass... You can't kill that many characters with out ailinating the fans. You can't destroy comic cannon. You can't change characters powers and mentality to suit you. If you do any of these it becomes an X-men inspired movie and NOT AN X-MEN MOVIE anymore. As a movie goer... It was an alright movie. If I knew nothing about the x-men then I'd think it was prety good. If you think it ruined the chance of any movies to come... You obviously didn't see the scene at the end of the credits. |
How does the end show that Cyclops didn't die? I'm pretty sure he's toast. |
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If they let it stand as is they are crazy... That is not how the pheonix works. If they they bring her back (which they can do now that she's finaly dead) then the pheonix should be able to bring back everyone she "killed" I say "killed" because the pheonix would have taken them into herself and it would look like she killed them. But if they say she accualy killed them then you will see a boycot of the movies to follow by the fans. |
The comics don't even follow the comics. People take their fiction so seriously, I swear... |
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Well if you aren't a comic book fan, then the movie was pretty good. I walked in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. It was definately grittier and darker than the others, with plenty of eye candy. Also didn't expect the number of X-men to die either. If you expect a Hollywood movie to exercise your mind then .
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