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Posted: 12/15/2005 3:23:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 3:24:37 PM EDT by NorCal_LEO]
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SGT BARNES PLATOON VIETNAM JUNGLE SHIRT JACKET
NEW CONDITION TOM BERENGER WAR

VIETNAM COAT IS IN NEW CONDITION WITH PATCHES TO REPRODUCE THE ONE WORN BY TOM BERENGER IN OLIVER STONE'S MOVIE PLATOON. s/H $6.50 SHIRT IS DATED 1969 AND IS A LARGE LONG.






I counted three "afraid not"s





Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:32:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 3:34:43 PM EDT by M38A1]
Slant pocket shirt would be correct so that leaves insignia...

I'd guess the airborne patch on one shoulder and the patch on the other shoulder with the lighting bolt belong to different units. Not sure they had subdued tape on the pockets then either. Isn't the little airborne patch above the tape supposed to be sewed on the collar?

How's that?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:49:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 3:51:58 PM EDT by Combat_Jack]
Barnes only had three chevrons?


ETA: I couldn't find a screen shot of him with ANY chevrons.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:13:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 5:16:05 PM EDT by NorCal_LEO]

Originally Posted By M38A1:
I'd guess the airborne patch on one shoulder and the patch on the other shoulder with the lighting bolt belong to different units. How's that?



One. Barnes never had an 82nd ABN patch. The 25th ID "electric strawberry" is correct.


Barnes only had three chevrons?


Two. No, he was a SSgt (Three up, one down)
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:15:12 PM EDT
Did they have rip stop by then.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:28:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bblake00:
Did they have rip stop by then.



Good question.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 6:33:37 PM EDT
I was in when the last of the jungle fatigues were worn, around mid '80s, we could wear them or the camo in sf school. I'm thinking the u.s. army and namepatches should be straight even though the pockets are slanted.
I still have them, will go check after while.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 7:19:54 PM EDT
I had a photo of them online, it shows them like so,



frayed yes but those are decades old.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 7:45:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NorCal_LEO:

Originally Posted By bblake00:
Did they have rip stop by then.



Good question.



I have an old shirt of my dads from that era. It's no rip stop. It's a wool / cotton blend. I can only tell by feal since the tags is faded. But it sure ain't rip stop.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 7:55:29 PM EDT
OK, why would there be an infantry patch if he was airborne? I'd guess the infantry patch should not be there....
~m38a1
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 8:08:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2005 9:06:44 AM EDT by cyclicyouth]
Early jungle fatigues were made of poplin fabric. The rip stop began to appear in 1968 onwards. The real Barnes probably didn't have ripstop since he was an "old timer". Also nametapes were originally worn straight on pockets. It wasn't until mid to late 1969 that they began wearing them slanted with the pockets (at least in the 25th ID).
As far as a correct movie version, you'd just need a nylon 25th ID patch, twill staff sergeant chevrons and a CIB and jump wings sewn straight to the pocket.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 7:40:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cyclicyouth:
As far as a correct movie version, you'd just need a nylon 25th ID patch, twill staff sergeant chevrons and a CIB sewn straight to the pocket.



That was the third thing. Although the above pictures show the correct placement of the CIB (as far as I know, Army guys feel free to correct me) Barnes wore the CIB under the APB in the movie.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 11:56:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NorCal_LEO:

Originally Posted By cyclicyouth:
As far as a correct movie version, you'd just need a nylon 25th ID patch, twill staff sergeant chevrons and a CIB sewn straight to the pocket.



That was the third thing. Although the above pictures show the correct placement of the CIB (as far as I know, Army guys feel free to correct me) Barnes wore the CIB under the APB in the movie.



that was gonna be my call...
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 6:54:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2005 6:58:46 AM EDT by efpeter]
I don't recall him having the 82nd Patch.
But, if he did wear it in the movie, I believe they were a one piece patch in the vietnam era. That is clearly a two piece patch.

As far as the placement of the CIB and ABN wings, their placement is optional. There is some leeway, since they are individual awards. They need to be centered, but other than that, which one goes on top is personal preference.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:45:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:15:57 PM EDT
I don't recall that being in the regulations... If it was, it was never enforced at Bragg.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 4:01:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 4:13:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sylvan:

Originally Posted By efpeter:
I don't recall that being in the regulations... If it was, it was never enforced at Bragg.


It is
670-1 chapter 23.
At Ft Bragg since 1960 somebody had wings over a CIB?
I would have to call BS on that.



Well the technical advisor was Dale Dye USMC ret.
They should've gotten a Army 'Nam vet to catch those things.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 4:25:57 PM EDT
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