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9/24/2010 2:15:47 AM EDT
I'm on a little Kubrick kick right now and decided to watch A Clockwork Orange again, it had been about 12 years since I had seen it.  I was only half paying attention when I had watched it so I decided to pay attention this time.  I've got to say wow, it's a very thought provoking film.  It's nice to watch a movie that makes you pay attention, not just CGI/plot spelled out/nothing but what's on the surface movie.  I also found this to be a very good analysis of the movie.  

What do you guys think of this movie?  F'ed beyond belief of an epic film?
9/24/2010 2:20:13 AM EDT
[#1]
"Don't worry about me love. Just stopped by to read the meter"
9/24/2010 2:26:57 AM EDT
[#2]
I was cured alright.

If you get a chance to read the book do so. Seems that it was published in the states after the movie and the last chapter was left out. Back in the 90's Burgess re published the book in the us along with the final chapter (that Kubrick left out of the film).


Awesome flick.  Btw - the body builder bodyguard was David Prowse aka Darth Vader.
9/24/2010 2:55:50 AM EDT
[#3]
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If you get a chance to read the book do so. . . . the last chapter was left out.


The last chapter really finished the story; unfortunately I am not surprised that that the U.S. editors/publishers decided to leave it out as "too pandering for American audiences".

9/24/2010 5:22:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I was cured alright.

If you get a chance to read the book do so. Seems that it was published in the states after the movie and the last chapter was left out. Back in the 90's Burgess re published the book in the us along with the final chapter (that Kubrick left out of the film).


Awesome flick.  Btw - the body builder bodyguard was David Prowse aka Darth Vader.


Quoted:
Quoted:
If you get a chance to read the book do so. . . . the last chapter was left out.


The last chapter really finished the story; unfortunately I am not surprised that that the U.S. editors/publishers decided to leave it out as "too pandering for American audiences".



From what I understand, Burgess was pretty upset with Kubrick for leaving the final chapter out of the film even though he kept very faithfull to the book.  Kubrick also added a lot to the film which emphasised the meaning of the story.  

I have not read the book but did read a quick synopsis of the final chapter.  I can completely understand why Kubrick decided to leave it out, I think the way it ends makes the story better.  

9/24/2010 5:24:21 AM EDT
[#5]
Well done movie, but I have a hard time watching rape scenes.  For some reason they fill me with rage.
9/24/2010 5:43:34 AM EDT
[#6]
Classic Kubrick. We used to hold a CWO party every year on Halloween.

When does freedom become anarchy? When does politics become control? Great book, with some insights that sure look familier to today's England. As for the filmmaking, how many flicks have emulated Kubrick's style in CWO? Use of color, music, camera angles, are all excellent. And like Dr. Strangelove, damn funny for such serious subject material. I'd suggest reading Burgess' book and watching the film to anyone who hates the shakey cam simple stuff.

Coen lovers should love the language. Burgess invented his own lingo for the book. And Kubrick and Burgess' script has some great dialog.

Alex: Appy-polly-loggies. I had something of a pain in the gulliver so had to sleep. I was not awakened when I gave orders for wakening.

Alex: There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie, and Dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.

Alex: Ho, ho, ho! Well, if it isn't fat stinking billy goat Billy Boy in poison! How art thou, thou globby bottle of cheap, stinking chip oil? Come and get one in the yarbles, if ya have any yarbles, you eunuch jelly thou!

Alex: And the first thing that flashed into my gulliver was that I'd like to have her right down there on the floor with the old in-out, real savage.

[listening to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony]
Alex: Oh bliss! Bliss and heaven! Oh, it was gorgeousness and gorgeousity made flesh. It was like a bird of rarest-spun heaven metal or like silvery wine flowing in a spaceship, gravity all nonsense now. As I slooshied, I knew such lovely pictures!

Alex: The Durango '95 purred away a real horrowshow - a nice, warm vibraty feeling all through your guttiwuts. And soon it was trees and dark, my brothers, with real country dark.

9/24/2010 1:13:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Hate that movie




ETA: Stupid imageshack
9/24/2010 3:50:01 PM EDT
[#8]
Love the movie... but liked the book al lot better. (Of course.)



The actors in the film all seemed too old. I always pictured Alex and his droogs younger.




Still, a great movie.







9/24/2010 3:58:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Love the movie... but liked the book al lot better. (Of course.)

The actors in the film all seemed too old. I always pictured Alex and his droogs younger.

Still, a great movie.




It was amazing for it's time, and it stands the test of time as a classic today.

I still manage to slip in the use the of the phrase "Yarbles" in conversation.  Some get it, some don't...

MING the Merciless
9/24/2010 6:48:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Love the movie... but liked the book al lot better. (Of course.)

The actors in the film all seemed too old. I always pictured Alex and his droogs younger.

Still, a great movie.




From what I've read, the book says Alex is 15.  In the movie, when he's being checked into prison, Alex states that he's 14.  

9/24/2010 6:50:51 PM EDT
[#11]


Wow, I'd say you're a fan!  Question, why do you have the pyramid upside down instead of right side up?

9/25/2010 6:07:35 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Love the movie... but liked the book al lot better. (Of course.)



The actors in the film all seemed too old. I always pictured Alex and his droogs younger.




Still, a great movie.











From what I've read, the book says Alex is 15.  In the movie, when he's being checked into prison, Alex states that he's 14.  





Exactly.

 



Malcolm McDowell was 28 when "ACO" was made... and he looked it. (At the very least, he didn't even look close to 15.)
9/25/2010 8:00:57 AM EDT
[#13]
Clockwork Orange is a great film.  

I saw it in the theater when it was first released it blew me and my date away.
9/25/2010 9:00:38 PM EDT
[#14]
I finally watched it this year, and thought it was pretty damn good.  I'll probably watch it again, as I'm sure there was a lot of stuff I missed the first time...
9/26/2010 10:58:08 AM EDT
[#15]
Some years ago one of my Russian professors pointed out all the intentional Russian puns in it, such as "horror show" which means "good" in Russian (XOPOWO).  So I'll give it that.  But I can't stand watching movies that feel intended for druggie audiences.  As in "you would enjoy this if you were using drugs to enhance the experience."  Ugh, off-putting.
9/26/2010 12:16:07 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Some years ago one of my Russian professors pointed out all the intentional Russian puns in it, such as "horror show" which means "good" in Russian (XOPOWO).  So I'll give it that.  But I can't stand watching movies that feel intended for druggie audiences.  As in "you would enjoy this if you were using drugs to enhance the experience."  Ugh, off-putting.


Huh?
9/28/2010 6:49:51 AM EDT
[#17]
Welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, well!



Political correctness and liberalism gone amuck! The movie that predicted the future and most people never got it. All they could see was it was some type of evil movie that glorified rape or something and had no ability to look any further especially most women who refused to even watch it. Or, maybe most people did get what the movie was about but wouldn't admit it since it was prob. the first movie to mock political correctness etc…



If I remember the story correctly:
The guy and his crew where down right evil who all seemed to come from loving homes
He got caught and instead of being thrown in jail for the rest of his life, the politically correct gov. decides to turn him over to a psychiatrist who believes that prisons are unnecessary and gives him therapy to fix his problem. Meanwhile, the rest of his buddies all become corrupt cops etc.. and continue on with their bad doings.
Eventually the therapy has bad side effects and due to more political correctness…. the government then has to make him back to the way he was before he got arrested and release him.....convert him back to being evil

If hippie druggie lib. audiences watched it thinking it was a movie made for them they where right: IMHO it mocked them!



Anyway, a great link and a great movie buy a great genius!


thanks for the link USMARINE1108


Viddy well little brother, viddy well.
10/7/2010 8:57:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:


Wow, I'd say you're a fan!  Question, why do you have the pyramid upside down instead of right side up?



REVOLUTION ME DROOGIES!
10/7/2010 9:22:57 PM EDT
[#19]
Absolutely brilliant.
10/9/2010 1:43:22 PM EDT
[#20]
I've seen the movie and read the book, but the highlight for me was seeing the story performed live on stage by the Royal Shakespear Theatre Company in London, England back in 1990.  My new bride and I were on a week-long driving tour of Western Europe, and happened upon a pair of excellent tickets at one of those "last-minute" ticket booths in Picadilly Circus.  Totally awesome.  Simply amazing.  Definitely one of those "once in a lifetime" lucky flukes that that you remember forever.

(ET correct sp)
10/10/2010 7:08:40 PM EDT
[#21]
I was like the whole movie. Haven't seen it in years, and I don't plan on it anytime soon.
10/14/2010 3:07:54 PM EDT
[#22]
The problem with the movie, is that when I first saw it in late 80s, it seemed pretty extreme for alot of reasons. Now its almost sedate....

Says alot about what has been made since then. Great film though and great book.
10/16/2010 5:53:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Starts playing William Tell
10/17/2010 4:49:06 PM EDT
[#24]
The fight with Billy's boys in the old casino or whatever it was is still one of the best non martial arts fight scenes ever. I just remember that for a pussy looking English kid, Alex was a tough little bastard.