Posted: 7/16/2010 2:22:22 PM EDT
| I just got back from watching this today. I don't think I've ever seen a Christopher Nolan film that I didn't thoroughly enjoy and this film kept the streak alive. The special effects and action were outstanding, as was the plot, acting, etc etc. I highly recommend it if you're looking for a cerebral film! |
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I saw it this afternoon. It was awesome. Add some spoiler tags to the subject line so we can yak about it without people getting pissy. In the meantime, scroll if you don't want spoilers because here they come: At the end ... was his old friend pulling an inception on him or was the top about to fall? |
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I saw it this afternoon. It was awesome. Add some spoiler tags to the subject line so we can yak about it without people getting pissy. In the meantime, scroll if you don't want spoilers because here they come: At the end ... was his old friend pulling an inception on him or was the top about to fall? Was the girl actually a brilliant architect AND extractor? |
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Just got back from watching it. Loved it. Best movie of the year by far to me. I think the top fell, that is how I choose to see it anyway It was wobbling at least. In the dream shots it kept spinning perfectly. Perhaps someone figured out how to mess with Cobb's totem? |
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In all honesty, I don't think I've seen a film as good as it in years! It is without a doubt a brilliant film! Wow!!! Both my girlfriend and I thought inception is one of the most brilliant original films we're ever seen. When the movie was over and we were driving home from the theater we were still on the edge of our seats. I was holding my breath during the entire movie. I'll most certainly see this movie again and again!!!! |
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Soo yea......My wife and I thought this movie kicked at least 9 kinds of ass.
I'm definitely going to have to watch this several times back to back when it comes to dvd. Spoilers below: So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) |
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One of the most brillant films I've seen a long time. Amazing in every scene. Top notch acting, excellent pacing throughout, amazing plot, and great filmography. Christopher Nolan has got to be one of the best producer/directors out there right now if not the very best. This and Dark Knight have sold me on the fact that now I will actually see any movie in the future he is involved in. |
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Quoted: So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? Shit I didn't even think of that. Damn I have to go see this again and view it through a different mindset |
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Hah, I was in the theater and in the final shot, as the top was spinning, you could feel the entire audience leaning forward, waiting to see if it would fall or not...cut to black...literally everyone in the room let out an "oooff!"
I'd like to think the top fell, but I thought he had been on the run for years, and then, the kids looked the same when he got back. I don't know. |
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Absolutely the best movie I've seen in a long, long time. Visually, it was the most amazing thing I've seen since The Matrix. Simply astounding. Honestly, I think this film is pretty much spoiler-proof. You could give away everything that happens in the film and I'm not sure if it would detract from the experience all too much. Tom Hardy's character (Eames) was probably my favorite. James Bond could learn quite a bit from the final action sequence in the mountains. Great gun film, too! Nice choices. Go out and see it. See it now. Well worth every penny. |
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Absolutely the best movie I've seen in a long, long time. Visually, it was the most amazing thing I've seen since The Matrix. Simply astounding. Honestly, I think this film is pretty much spoiler-proof. You could give away everything that happens in the film and I'm not sure if it would detract from the experience all too much. Tom Hardy's character (Eames) was probably my favorite. James Bond could learn quite a bit from the final action sequence in the mountains. Great gun film, too! Nice choices. Go out and see it. See it now. Well worth every penny. I'll agree with the spoiler proof thing, I haven't seen it and I have no idea what you guys are taking about. Sounds like a must see though. |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? remember they said he couldn't build anymore? if he were the architect of the dream wouldn't that make sense? and when the rich guy's son and the asian guy died, why did they end up in HIS limbo world? hmmm... i thought the movie was great |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? remember they said he couldn't build anymore? if he were the architect of the dream wouldn't that make sense? and when the rich guy's son and the asian guy died, why did they end up in HIS limbo world? hmmm... i thought the movie was great I think that the "Limbo" was a singular shared place that was empty, but he and his wife had lived their for 50 years and simply built a ton of shit. Which is why they all ended up there after the 3rd recursion. |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? remember they said he couldn't build anymore? if he were the architect of the dream wouldn't that make sense? and when the rich guy's son and the asian guy died, why did they end up in HIS limbo world? hmmm... i thought the movie was great I think that the "Limbo" was a singular shared place that was empty, but he and his wife had lived their for 50 years and simply built a ton of shit. Which is why they all ended up there after the 3rd recursion. If he and his wife were there for fifty years wouldn't there bodies have died of thirst or starvation . I didn't think the movie was amazing at all . I thought it was heavily edited and choppy and most of it made little sense . I don't believe watching it a second time would clear up the mess that was the plot. |
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If he and his wife were there for fifty years wouldn't there bodies have died of thirst or starvation . I didn't think the movie was amazing at all . I thought it was heavily edited and choppy and most of it made little sense . I don't believe watching it a second time would clear up the mess that was the plot. Their bodies weren't there for 50 years, their minds were locked in the dream state for what seemed to them like 50 years due to the difference in time perception. Their bodies were just asleep for a few hours or whatever. The film didn't really ever explain how they got into limbo other than to say they were "experimenting." As far as Cobb stealing Mal's totem, I don't think he really stole it (except maybe after her death). The totem only really exists in the real world. My understanding is that the totems in the dream worlds are just imperfect figments whose imperfections (known only to the dreamer) tell the individual they are in a dream. For example, the "wrong" carpet in the first scene became a totem for Saito to know he was still in the dream. I could be totally wrong here, but when Cobb finds Mal's totem locked away, he doesn't take it, he just sets it spinnng –– thus planting the idea that their world was not real. They also had a decent explanation for why if they dropped into limbo it would be Cobb's limbo when Cobb was trying to keep Eams (whose character was awesome by the way) from shooting Saito to get him out of the dream –– but I can't remember exactly what it was ––- sort of like a dream I guess I think there are some hole here and there (the whole limbo thing seemed to have some inconsistencies as far as how you got in and how you got out), but overall, the movie did a remarkable job adhering to its own set of logic. Thoroughly enjoyed it. |
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Amazing movie all around! Even if the story had sucked, visually it would have still been worth the price of admission. The scenes in the snow were badass, especially the Hummer with tracks and the M240. And the zero gravity fighting was awesome. As for the ending, I think he was still dreaming. Here's why -
His kids appeared the same as in his previous dreams. Same clothes, same ages, same location, same lighting, etc. It was all too convenient. Michael Caine showed up, (presumably from France?) with 20 minutes notice after Saito made the phone call to clear Cobb. He breezes through customs with no problem. They were unconscious on the plane for 9+ hours, which they said could equal 10 years in a dream on the third level. But Saito had aged a lot more than 10 years, yet he still supposedly woke up on the plane with 20 minutes to spare. I didn't understand that, or how Cobb didn't age. The idea that Michael Caine was using an inception on Cobb is pretty interesting. I hadn't thought of that. I definitely need to see this again. |
The wife liked it . I did not . it was too long . The bad guys attacking with automatic weapons could only manage to wound one guy ,yet they get shot with pistols out the car window The machine gun and ski mounted troops could have been keystone cops with all of their bumbling .Too many levels for me . The visuals were its only saving feature .
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Amazing movie all around! Even if the story had sucked, visually it would have still been worth the price of admission. The scenes in the snow were badass, especially the Hummer with tracks and the M240. And the zero gravity fighting was awesome. As for the ending, I think he was still dreaming. Here's why - His kids appeared the same as in his previous dreams. Same clothes, same ages, same location, same lighting, etc. It was all too convenient. Michael Caine showed up, (presumably from France?) with 20 minutes notice after Saito made the phone call to clear Cobb. He breezes through customs with no problem. They were unconscious on the plane for 9+ hours, which they said could equal 10 years in a dream on the third level. But Saito had aged a lot more than 10 years, yet he still supposedly woke up on the plane with 20 minutes to spare. I didn't understand that, or how Cobb didn't age. The idea that Michael Caine was using an inception on Cobb is pretty interesting. I hadn't thought of that. I definitely need to see this again. The kids thing is interesting. I think the other things have explanations, though. Cobb was taking a leap of faith to go to the US, knowing that if things didn't work out he would be arrested –– in other words, win or lose, he was going to the US. He would have notified Michael Cain's character beforehand that he was coming. Saito aged a lot more than 10 years because he died in the dream while sedated, meaning that he went to limbo. He basically could not wake up and had to endure the entire length of sedation while in limbo meaning that he went through what Cobb had been through. One thing I thought might be a bit of a plot hole was that when Cobb found Saito, they were in the same building as in the beginning of the movie, which was already established as a construct of Arthur's mind (Mal remarks in the beginning "judging by the decor, we're in your mind Arthur") –– odd that Saito would construct that place. |
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It wasn't that deep or complex. Good movie and better than going to see a Will Ferrell flick but come on, it was pretty straight forward. because they go into the subconscious of the architect at that level of the mountain scene - so they enter that same subconscious together......I think :) - Great movie. Loved the fact the totem just wobbled at the end I thought that effect was perfect so it gives you enough of an argument to form your own opinion Also, the biggest plot hole I had with it was: the guy's serum that puts everyone out for a long ass time was designed so that the "kick" to wake you up was the feeling of falling - how did everyone in the van not wake-up the whole time that it was going side to side and even flipped at one point; thus bringing them all back to the 1st recursion/dream (the kidnapping) |
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Remember that all the players here were dream sharing. The Architect would populate the dream world with landscape, they would bring in a "mark" to supply the projections so that the others could steal the necessary information. as they progressed deeper into the sub-conscious ( dreams within dreams) it became harder to keep the worlds separate. ie...Mal invading the 2nd level of the first dream sequence. by the time they reach 4th level (limbo) everything is melded. Assuming that Cobb was the most experienced dreamer, that fourth level is going to be dominated by him. Saito "fell" into it, and probably took it to be some kind of reality. You know how when you dream things are really weird, but at the time they seem completely normal. I believe that by the end, everyone was awake and he really got to go back to his kids.
the drug cocktails probably have something to do with who gets to be architect, extractor, etc... I liked the end, leave it up to the viewer to decide how it ends. I hope that the writers never come out and say, "this is how it is". makes these discussions more interesting. |
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The wife liked it . I did not . it was too long . The bad guys attacking with automatic weapons could only manage to wound one guy ,yet they get shot with pistols out the car window The machine gun and ski mounted troops could have been keystone cops with all of their bumbling .Too many levels for me . The visuals were its only saving feature .I can never shoot anything accurately in my dreams....just sayin'. |
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Also, the biggest plot hole I had with it was: the guy's serum that puts everyone out for a long ass time was designed so that the "kick" to wake you up was the feeling of falling - how did everyone in the van not wake-up the whole time that it was going side to side and even flipped at one point; thus bringing them all back to the 1st recursion/dream (the kidnapping) The explanation I have seen is that most of the characters were 2 levels deeper than the van level. It seems as though the effects at one level affect the next level deeper but as the people get further away, things get propagated less. So the altered gravity etc did not affect them –– that is why Arthur needed to develop a way to accelerate the elevator to "kick" them out of the 3rd level. Also remember that the dude in the van initiated the fall too early because the security guys got past the barrier, and thus Arthur on level 2 could not sychronize the kick and had to contingency plan for the second kick when the van hit the water. In the third level they realized that they had missed the first kick when they saw the avalanche. Still unexplained is why the (van rolling and first kick) didn't wake Arthur because he was only one level deeper. |
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Remember that all the players here were dream sharing. The Architect would populate the dream world with landscape, they would bring in a "mark" to supply the projections so that the others could steal the necessary information. Right. All of these reviewers etc. asking why the rich kid couldn't just spawn security with x-ray vision or homing locusts or alter the dream state to his liking are forgetting that it is his mind that is populating someone elses construct. A construct which happens to be a maze designed to keep the mark's subconscious lost as long as possible. ...by the time they reach 4th level (limbo) everything is melded. Assuming that Cobb was the most experienced dreamer, that fourth level is going to be dominated by him. Saito "fell" into it, and probably took it to be some kind of reality. You know how when you dream things are really weird, but at the time they seem completely normal.
I think that was the basic explanation they gave for it. Essentially you were there for so long, you forgot or didn't care what reality was. This is sort of what they implied what happened to Mal. There are still some aspects of the whole limbo thing that don't make sense to me –– like the fact that Saito and Fischer get there by "dying" but Cobb and Ariadne get there by hooking up to the machine like they are just going to a 4th level. Saito's case makes sense because he basically has to stay there until the sedation wears off on the 10 hour airplane flight, and he ages something like 50 years in limbo time. Ariadne's case doesn't make sense to me because to get out of there, she tosses herself off the building... which would normally get her out of limbo (like Cobb and Mal getting out of there with the train), but she was also sedated –– but she was also just there because she went to level 4 in a dream, not by dying. Fischer gets brought out of limbo by the defibrillator –– but again, he was there because he died, and it is unclear why they couldn't have just done that with Saito. Cobb stays down in limbo looking for Saito but doesn't appear to age (although he looks pretty whacked out when he finally does find him) but it is unclear how he stays there. Maybe Mal stabs him and he dies or something. I believe that by the end, everyone was awake and he really got to go back to his kids.
There is enough material to argue both cases on that one. Anyway, haven't had a movie make me think that much in a while. Well worth the price of admission. |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? remember they said he couldn't build anymore? if he were the architect of the dream wouldn't that make sense? and when the rich guy's son and the asian guy died, why did they end up in HIS limbo world? hmmm... i thought the movie was great I think that the "Limbo" was a singular shared place that was empty, but he and his wife had lived their for 50 years and simply built a ton of shit. Which is why they all ended up there after the 3rd recursion. If he and his wife were there for fifty years wouldn't there bodies have died of thirst or starvation . I didn't think the movie was amazing at all . I thought it was heavily edited and choppy and most of it made little sense . I don't believe watching it a second time would clear up the mess that was the plot. If you were too slow to know the answer to this question already then it's no wonder you thought the film wasn't amazing. Perhaps cartoons is more your idea of fine cinema.
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It wasn't that deep or complex. Good movie and better than going to see a Will Ferrell flick but come on, it was pretty straight forward. Maybe you just have a really really firm grasp on philosophical perception and existentialism. Maybe sometimes a gold glowing suitcase is just that. |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? remember they said he couldn't build anymore? if he were the architect of the dream wouldn't that make sense? and when the rich guy's son and the asian guy died, why did they end up in HIS limbo world? hmmm... i thought the movie was great I think that the "Limbo" was a singular shared place that was empty, but he and his wife had lived their for 50 years and simply built a ton of shit. Which is why they all ended up there after the 3rd recursion. If he and his wife were there for fifty years wouldn't there bodies have died of thirst or starvation . I didn't think the movie was amazing at all . I thought it was heavily edited and choppy and most of it made little sense . I don't believe watching it a second time would clear up the mess that was the plot. If you were too slow to know the answer to this question already then it's no wonder you thought the film wasn't amazing. Perhaps cartoons is more your idea of fine cinema. ![]() they did say minutes = hours i really can't rember the formula . but if they were in their dream for for 50 years and the human body can only survive without water for 7-8 days surely their bodies would have died in the real world . |
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So the top at the end. The more I think about it I wish I had payed more attention. I think he did wake up...But I think he's in a dream. I think he's in a dream during the whole movie. As far as the top goes. HE broke the cardinal rule and took her totem. He could have projected it to work in that certain dream world due to him not knowing he was dreaming, and it not being his original totem. The children had the same clothes on at the end as they did from the one random memory we kept seeing(i think so anyways this is why i want to watch again to check.) Yeah, I still haven't figured out what happend. I might have to see it again. But I'm starting to think that he was in a dream for the whole movie. The fuzzy beginning of movie (no real explanation of him ending up on the extraction job vs. the Japanese guy). Like his dream wife mentioned the cobol (cobalt, kobold?) corp people chasing him everywhere he goes, like projections. But if they're chasing him that means he's the "architect" at that level. So was he trying to do an inception on himself so he could think he's with his kids again? remember they said he couldn't build anymore? if he were the architect of the dream wouldn't that make sense? and when the rich guy's son and the asian guy died, why did they end up in HIS limbo world? hmmm... i thought the movie was great I think that the "Limbo" was a singular shared place that was empty, but he and his wife had lived their for 50 years and simply built a ton of shit. Which is why they all ended up there after the 3rd recursion. If he and his wife were there for fifty years wouldn't there bodies have died of thirst or starvation . I didn't think the movie was amazing at all . I thought it was heavily edited and choppy and most of it made little sense . I don't believe watching it a second time would clear up the mess that was the plot. If you were too slow to know the answer to this question already then it's no wonder you thought the film wasn't amazing. Perhaps cartoons is more your idea of fine cinema. ![]() they did say minutes = hours i really can't rember the formula . but if they were in their dream for for 50 years and the human body can only survive without water for 7-8 days surely their bodies would have died in the real world . The deeper they go, the more compressed time gets. 4th level down, less than a second was several hours, a minute was several months, an hour was many years. |
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It wasn't that deep or complex. Good movie and better than going to see a Will Ferrell flick but come on, it was pretty straight forward. Maybe you just have a really really firm grasp on philosophical perception and existentialism. Maybe sometimes a gold glowing suitcase is just that. Not giving a shit doesn't make it straight forward. It just means you don't give a shit. |
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I thought I had the whole movie figured out until you guys started talking about Cob being in a dream the whole time and trying to do inception to himself.
Oh well, it was an awesome movie. All of the talk about what COULD have been the real plot is interesting. However, I don't really think Cob was in a dream the whole time. Wasn't there a point where his totem does tip over in the middle of the movie? I think we are supposed to believe that the plot is what it explains it to be. Now, whether the totem stops spinning at the end....I don' know..... |
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I thought I had the whole movie figured out until you guys started talking about Cob being in a dream the whole time and trying to do inception to himself. Oh well, it was an awesome movie. All of the talk about what COULD have been the real plot is interesting. However, I don't really think Cob was in a dream the whole time. Wasn't there a point where his totem does tip over in the middle of the movie? I think we are supposed to believe that the plot is what it explains it to be. Now, whether the totem stops spinning at the end....I don' know..... See as far as this goes, I keep going back to it not originally being his totem. Even though he knew the idea of how it worked...it falls over if your in real life, It wasn't his so he could have created it to fall in what he thought was the real world...which is in fact what I believe to be a dream. |
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It wasn't that deep or complex. Good movie and better than going to see a Will Ferrell flick but come on, it was pretty straight forward. Maybe you just have a really really firm grasp on philosophical perception and existentialism. Maybe sometimes a gold glowing suitcase is just that. Not giving a shit doesn't make it straight forward. It just means you don't give a shit. I spent my youth thinking "Tainted Love" was about a boy and a girl. Many years later when the creator of that song revealed the true intended meaning, it didn't make MY perception of the song wrong. Now outside of the story I do have one minor complaint. The movie was edited for the ADD generation. Also, the story writer clearly intended the viewer to choose the outcome. It is meant for the viewer to creator their own story. Some say this is a cop out on behalf of the story teller. Some story tellers just like telling stories this way. Reading this thread reminds me just how much we idealize celebrity in this country. Why is it so important to figure out what the intended outcome is? Why can't you just accept your own perception? Do you really want Leo coming here and explaining the movie to you? Do you think you would enjoy it more or less if he did that? |
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It wasn't that deep or complex. Good movie and better than going to see a Will Ferrell flick but come on, it was pretty straight forward. Maybe you just have a really really firm grasp on philosophical perception and existentialism. Maybe sometimes a gold glowing suitcase is just that. Not giving a shit doesn't make it straight forward. It just means you don't give a shit. I spent my youth thinking "Tainted Love" was about a boy and a girl. Many years later when the creator of that song revealed the true intended meaning, it didn't make MY perception of the song wrong. Now outside of the story I do have one minor complaint. The movie was edited for the ADD generation. Also, the story writer clearly intended the viewer to choose the outcome. It is meant for the viewer to creator their own story. Some say this is a cop out on behalf of the story teller. Some story tellers just like telling stories this way. Reading this thread reminds me just how much we idealize celebrity in this country. Why is it so important to figure out what the intended outcome is? Why can't you just accept your own perception? Do you really want Leo coming here and explaining the movie to you? Do you think you would enjoy it more or less if he did that? Oh ok, so it wasn't complex and deep enough before but now all of a sudden it's complex and deep enough that there isn't a unified perception of the existential question, which was my point. |
The machine gun and ski mounted troops could have been keystone cops with all of their bumbling .Too many levels for me . The visuals were its only saving feature .