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2/12/2009 8:24:35 AM EDT








From Gallup (conducted: 2/6-7/09)







  • 39% believe in the theory of evolution


  • 25% do not believe in Darwin's theory


  • 36% have no opoinion either way





I am surprised at these poll results.
5sub



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2/12/2009 8:46:20 AM EDT
[#1]
What was the sample?  Were they surveying everyone?  People who claimed a religious affiliation?  Atheists?
2/12/2009 8:47:58 AM EDT
[#2]
what do you find surprising about it in particular?
2/12/2009 9:29:40 AM EDT
[#3]
What i find surprising is the low number of people that believe in evolution.

But whats interesting is the much higher number of post-graduates that do believe in it.  74%
2/12/2009 9:50:45 AM EDT
[#4]




Quoted:

What was the sample? Were they surveying everyone? People who claimed a religious affiliation? Atheists?




This:







  • 25% do not believe in Darwin's theory


  • 36% have no opoinion either way




  • 2/13/2009 6:15:09 PM EDT
    [#5]
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.

    2/14/2009 5:17:40 AM EDT
    [#6]
    We all need to believe in a higher power.


    Nope. Not true.
    2/14/2009 10:42:33 AM EDT
    [#7]
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    Actually we don't, and just because someone doesn't believe in a higher power doesn't mean they lack morals and don't know how to respect people.
    2/15/2009 7:02:01 PM EDT
    [#8]
    I have no problem reconciling natural selection with faith in God.
    2/16/2009 4:51:40 AM EDT
    [#9]
    Edited.  This is not GD.  Please keep all posts in line with the rules of this forum. ~ medicmandan

    2/16/2009 4:54:32 AM EDT
    [#10]
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.


    I respectfully disagree.  I beleive that relgion is a tool people use to achieve that, but it's not necessary.  

    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    But that's a pretty enlightened Christian view.  Well done.

    2/16/2009 8:11:38 AM EDT
    [#11]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    Actually we don't, and just because someone doesn't believe in a higher power doesn't mean they lack morals and don't know how to respect people.



    Southern Miss
    May I ask you a question?
    Where do you believe morals and respect of others comes from, if not " a higher power" or "religion" or God himself?
    This  is not an attack, but rather an inquiry
    Still-Learning

    2/16/2009 8:17:01 AM EDT
    [#12]
    Quoted:
    I have no problem reconciling natural selection with faith in God.


    Nor do I.
    2/16/2009 8:19:03 AM EDT
    [#13]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    I have no problem reconciling natural selection with faith in God.


    Nor do I.


    +1
    Still-Learning
    2/16/2009 8:31:09 AM EDT
    [#14]
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    Actually, science lies quite a bit. Ever heard of global warming? The new ice age? In regard to evolution, some of the leaps required to embrace this philosophy are pretty sizeable. The inaccuracy of carbon and argon dating are well documented. The theory of evolution, as it is presented most of the time, is a guess at best, and often ignores the possibility of catastrophic or rapid changes in speciation.

    With the exception of being Catholic, our 'credentials' are similar. I'm NOT one of the '6,000 year old earth' types in any way, shape or form. Natural selection, I can understand and believe in –– within limits. The 'theory of evolution?' Not.

    2/16/2009 9:47:07 AM EDT
    [#15]

    Quoted:


    Edited ~ medicmandan







    First, I would bet my post-graduate education (assuming you graduated) outpaces yours by quite a bit.





    Second, this is regarded as a technical forum, and drive-by troll posts are not regarded kindly.






     
    2/16/2009 12:06:08 PM EDT
    [#16]




    Quoted:



    Quoted:

    I have no problem reconciling natural selection with faith in God.




    Nor do I.


    Nor do I.





    5sub

    2/16/2009 2:58:59 PM EDT
    [#17]
    Quoted:

    Actually, science lies quite a bit. Ever heard of global warming? The new ice age? In regard to evolution, some of the leaps required to embrace this philosophy are pretty sizeable. The inaccuracy of carbon and argon dating are well documented. The theory of evolution, as it is presented most of the time, is a guess at best, and often ignores the possibility of catastrophic or rapid changes in speciation.

    With the exception of being Catholic, our 'credentials' are similar. I'm NOT one of the '6,000 year old earth' types in any way, shape or form. Natural selection, I can understand and believe in –– within limits. The 'theory of evolution?' Not.




    Well said +1
    2/16/2009 3:39:29 PM EDT
    [#18]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:

    Actually, science lies quite a bit. Ever heard of global warming? The new ice age? In regard to evolution, some of the leaps required to embrace this philosophy are pretty sizeable. The inaccuracy of carbon and argon dating are well documented. The theory of evolution, as it is presented most of the time, is a guess at best, and often ignores the possibility of catastrophic or rapid changes in speciation.

    With the exception of being Catholic, our 'credentials' are similar. I'm NOT one of the '6,000 year old earth' types in any way, shape or form. Natural selection, I can understand and believe in –– within limits. The 'theory of evolution?' Not.




    Well said +1


    Thanks!
    2/17/2009 11:50:10 AM EDT
    [#19]
    Quoted:
    What i find surprising is the low number of people that believe in evolution.

    But whats interesting is the much higher number of post-graduates that do believe in it.  74%


    I suspect that when one is at this level of education, they are engaged in processes and ideas that require critical thinking instead of "faith."  

    What a lesser-educated person may take as fact, a more enlightened person may seek a "better" or more satisfying explanation.

    I'm not stepping on toes here, just suggesting that the secular academic environment may produce more agnostics or atheists.
    2/17/2009 2:05:38 PM EDT
    [#20]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    Actually we don't, and just because someone doesn't believe in a higher power doesn't mean they lack morals and don't know how to respect people.



    Southern Miss
    May I ask you a question?
    Where do you believe morals and respect of others comes from, if not " a higher power" or "religion" or God himself?
    This  is not an attack, but rather an inquiry
    Still-Learning



    To me it just seems like common sense. lol Sure i was raised in a religious atmosphere, but I would act exactly the same towards people if i wasn't.  I don't think non-religious people as a whole have any less morals or respect for others than the religious.
    2/18/2009 5:13:00 PM EDT
    [#21]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    Actually we don't, and just because someone doesn't believe in a higher power doesn't mean they lack morals and don't know how to respect people.



    Southern Miss
    May I ask you a question?
    Where do you believe morals and respect of others comes from, if not " a higher power" or "religion" or God himself?
    This  is not an attack, but rather an inquiry
    Still-Learning



    To me it just seems like common sense. lol Sure i was raised in a religious atmosphere, but I would act exactly the same towards people if i wasn't.  I don't think non-religious people as a whole have any less morals or respect for others than the religious.


    Thanks for the reply. Your opionion was what I was interested in.  I am glad you treat others well.
    I won't argue...I did not ask to start an argument.  Just curious!
    Still Learning
    2/19/2009 11:12:02 AM EDT
    [#22]
      No problem, i enjoy having having conversations about religion, as long as its civilized.  lol
    2/21/2009 10:41:17 AM EDT
    [#23]
    Quoted:
      No problem, i enjoy having having conversations about religion, as long as its civilized.  lol



    Well I really think all discussions should be civil.  The reality of it is as you know, they are not. I try very hard not to participate in such things, not matter how stimulating it might be
    Thanks for the respnse.  Talk to you again maybe
    Still Learning
    3/4/2009 9:31:58 AM EDT
    [#24]
    Quoted:
    We all need to believe in a higher power. That's what gives us our morals and ambitions to do good, and treat our fellow beings with love and respect.
    I'm a christian, and a christened member of our local First Methodist church, and a conservitive rebublican to boot, but anyone who discounts evolution is in denial.
    The Bible is a fabulous story, and we should all heed to it, but science doesn't lie.



    The Bible I read is based on truth, not fact. Facts change, truth doesn't. God's word says "created", I'm good with that. The God I know and trust doesn't work within human facts nor could I have faith in one who is so limited.

    Respectfully, Don