Posted: 3/28/2008 11:59:51 PM EDT
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I have been thinking lately and just wanted to see if anyone can argue with this. The existence of a God will never be proven. It is called faith…if you believe he exists, he does….if you believe he doesn’t...he doesn’t….everything is relative and any experience with God is up to the individual. A believer may have an experience with God...but what about all the atheist who haven't and never will, why are they wrong? Are there universal truths? Possibly, possibly not. How can one find out? If you want a universal truth, search…yet be careful for you will not find anything truly universal and you may die confused...for we cannot comprehend something that is truly universal...and im not talking about gravity or math which are quite trivial in comparison to what I speak of. If you want happiness have faith and you can achieve it and in faith you will find your own truth, not a universal one.…yet the believers of a God will claim some sort of universal truth in his existence. Nobody is "right" is what I am getting at...there is no point to argue against or for a God. You may call me a hypocrite for stating that I am the holder of true information on everything I just mentioned…What is truth? The true or actual state of matter? Who determines the actual state? Nobody? God? people? or is it is just accepted for it has been here for so long? Whoever determines it...truth will always be challenged. In the end truth to me is whatever I believe... What do you say? are atheists "Wrong" or christians "right" can you prove the existence of a god? im interested in your thoughts |
Not really. If God exists he exists, and just because I am an atheist and dont think he exists doesnt make that true. Same goes for a believer.
No, I generally think that every "experience" with God leads to a very logical and realistic explaination.
Yes, many laws from chemistry/physics are universally true. conservation of mass/energy for example is universally true. Entropy is another.
You dont have to have faith to be happy. I am an atheist and am probably happier then many believers. I am probably a better person then many too.
Then the truth is never really the truth if it is all you believe.
No, you can not prove the existance of God. |
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thanks for answering yes, if God exists and you think he doesn't, he doesn't to you...obviously. The whole point of everything I wrote is that it is all up to the individual. Every experience with God is very logical an has a realistic explanation?...why are you an atheist? I speak of universal truths outside of the realm of human understanding. and Of course you can be happy without faith. I was just stating that happiness generally comes from faith. You are the holder of your own happiness, regardless of a God. and the last thing you say "the truth is never really the truth if it is all you believe" is what I am trying to say. What is the point of the arguing of a God if say, I am a believer and you are an atheist...is not the truth to you that he doesn't exist? Atheists usually strongly affirm the non-existence of a God, there must be some truth in your own beliefs...and if I believe in him there are truths in mine, but what is really true? we will never know, so why not accept the truth as what you believe? you probably do...but a universal one, will we ever know? perhaps in the afterlife (if it exists) . I am just sick of atheists saying believers are wrong and believers saying atheists are...everything is relative. |
Sorry, I should have worded it better. What I mean is that everything considered to be done by God (miracles), has a logical explanation not involving God behind it; a scientific explanation. |
Well, in all honesty you probably arnt going to find anything logical (backed by evidence) explaining the existance of God. I guess it does depend on your interpretation though. For instance, may think that because the world is so organized (atoms/molecules) it must be Gods work. The flip side is that if the big bang is true, it would also be organized in the way that it is. |