Posted: 12/16/2007 9:41:11 AM EDT
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Is there anyone in here that is really mad evolution is taught in schools with tax dollars and it is not even a science! Evolution is just a made up religion, makes me so mad that they can brainwash kids in school these days. |
That's what I'm trying to get at. Neither creationism nor evolution are correct. So which do we teach in schools when somebody asks "how did it all begin?" |
In your opinion. We just had a big thread about evolution. And yes, I would at least have them tell both sides. They did at one time teach creationism, AFAIK. But this I do know, at some point (I believe it was in the 60's) they decided to exclusively teach evolution. But I agree, it takes as much faith to believe in evolution as it does creationism. But I have yet to find a proponent of Evolution admit to that. Last couple guys claim somehow it's proven. So be forewarned to be called ignorant. 
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| I don't have a problem with it as long as it is presented as a theory and not scientific fact. They should also cover creationism also presenting it as a theory. I see nothing wrong with presenting all sides of an argument in order to educate people and let them reach their own conclusions. |
Too bad that wasn't true. |
So it's proven that there was a big bang, and we evolved into humans from primordal sludge over millions of years. You can't prove that and I don't know why you guys claim to. |
If we were to present all the 'sides' of this argument there'd be no time to teach anything else. Theres more then just evolution and the Christian creation myth. There have been thousands, and at least dozens that we know of. If you want to give equal time to every opinion of how we came to be, it'd have to include more then just Christianity's view. |
where is the proven facts where have you witnessed something evolve? seen any monkeys turn into men lately??? Evolution is a religion that needs to me throw out |
I dont know how to ask this without being insulting, but are you developmentally disabled? What the hell are you talking about? Look up the definition of "evolution" before you go talking about a completely different subject.
If you look at the genomes of humans and chimpanzees (both of which have been mapped) then you will see that we come from a common ancestor, not that a contemporary species evolved (magically time-travelling somehow) from another contemporary species. |
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What exactly do you think they're teaching in public Schools? That is the topic. Not what your definition of evolution is. |
 Have you ever read anything about evolution? |
I know exactly what is being taught in schools. 1) How old are you? 2) When was the last time you attended any science class in an accredited school system in the United States? 
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Ummm, yeah. Buy a petrie dish and get some bacteria growing. Now try to kill said bacteria with something like lysol or some other cleaning agent. It is likely that some of the bacteria will survive the onslaught (probably due to superior/mutated genes) and reproduce, thus making more bacteria that have a genetic disposition to being resistant to the cleaning agent. That is simplified microevolution, you can witness it yourself over period of a few days. Macroevolution is the same thing but over millions of years and with a multitude of "cleaning agents." Got it 
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PLEASE READ THIS.......Evolution 101 In all seriousness, if you have any specific question pertaining to evolution, there are many that frequent this forum that can answer them including myself. It is incorrect to call evolution a religion, and it is incorrect to say we evolved from a monkey. Evolution covers a VERY vast scientific community, from geology, physics, biology, and chemistry. Its is clear from your post that you have not studied evolution, so how can you think it is wrong to teach evolution, if you dont even know the very basic principles about it? This goes for others posting in this topic.... |
| Evolution is a scientific theory, that's why it's called the "Theory of Evolution". Scientific theories are valid to teach as part of any science curriculum. Theories don't have to be a "fact". Most theories can never make it to the fact stage, best they can do is become "Law". Theories are considered standing until disproven and replaced with another theory. Theories that stand the test of time sometimes become Law, e.g. the Law of Gravity, which by the way is explained in String Theory. |
You can not have a theory without facts. The facts in evolution are the observed changes in species. The theory is the way in which the observed facts are connected. It explains why the changes occur. Make no mistake about it, theories are very testable. This also happens to be why it is incorrect to call creation a theory it terms of science. |
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Theory: (1) A synthesis of a large body of information that encompasses well-tested hypotheses about certain aspects of the natural world. (2) A scientific hypothesis or hypotheses which is supported by evidence gathered by observation and/or experiment, which has not been contradicted by repeatable observation and/or experiment, and which is generally accepted as valid by the scientific community. In other words, the best explanation we have come up with that has valid evidence supporting it. |
This will go badly..... I'm an agnostic while my wife is a Christian and this is a topic we simply don't discuss much anymore. It never ends in anything constructive. Never. It's the best theory to date to explain how biodiversity on earth comes about and it is at least based on the scientific method. |
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Reading some of the posts here, it's obvious that there are a lot of people who don't know the first thing about evolution... I don't think we can even have a debate on teaching evolution until everyone involved knows what we're debating. Yes, the "theory" of evolution should be taught in schools, alongside the "theory" of gravity. Once people have the facts, they can decide whether they believe in evolution, creationism, or some combination of the two. I can't think of any definition of the word "brainwashing", regardless how casual, that would make that word applicable to the teaching of evolution. BTW, I said a couple of days ago that I generally don't post in the Religion forum unless I get riled up about something... saying that evolution isn't science, or is "made up", is one of the things that I can't let go. |
Probably the most likely place for someone to agree with the OP and also by anybody responding at all to the thread the OP may see it as some kind of reinforcement in his statement of evolutionary theory itself being a "religion." 
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In some species there is lots of proof , cause they evolve in a few years, I think the DNA studies provides some small proofs.. why teach anything that isnt factual ? |
I have to agree. We've done the Evolution/Origin of Life/Creationism Tango here countless times and it's never pretty, but we can continue to do so as long as the topic fits within this forum, i.e., the serious and respectful discussion/debate of religious beliefs and practices. A thread about whether or not evolutionary theory should be taught in public schools does not, IMHO, fit that mold. Politics & Activism? Maybe. GD? Maybe, but then it will no doubt get really ugly.  Not knowing the OP's mind, I will lock this for now -- if he wants me to unlock it and move it to a more appropriate forum, he can IM me and I will gladly do so. |