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Posted: 7/24/2017 1:46:36 AM EDT

God the creator is certain to exist in one of them

Posted: 7/24/2017 1:57:37 AM EDT

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If that's proven correct I'll move to one where liberals do not exist.

Posted: 7/24/2017 2:05:39 AM EDT

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Doesn't every comic book universe posit a multiverse?

DCEU claims there are only 52 while Marvel has so many there are multiple cross-time agencies managing millions of universes within their own respective boundaries.

Posted: 7/24/2017 5:57:19 AM EDT

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I thought that there were only 11?

Posted: 7/24/2017 7:09:02 AM EDT

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That's a non-sequitur.

Even if there are many universes, it doesn't mean there is any way for a being in one of them to influence every single event in another.

Posted: 7/24/2017 11:53:14 AM EDT

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That's a non-sequitur.

Even if there are many universes, it doesn't mean there is any way for a being in one of them to influence every single event in another.

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I disagree it makes it a certainty. that one exist somewhere.

I personally believe science is wrong on many things we don't understand & that the alternative demisions are just a way to compensate sloppy math that does not fit the observation.

Posted: 7/26/2017 10:00:03 AM EDT

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Conscious observation is required for probability waves to form into reality. Whose consciousness
do you suppose holds the reality that is us?

He exists in any and all dimensions.

The 11 dimension are the spatial dimensions. The dimensions that He exists in allows Him to be with us
at all times even though we aren't aware of his presence in the 3 dimensions of our existence.

When the "veil" was rent on the day of the crucifixion, the death of Yehushua became the door by which we become
clean to pass through the veil into His pure and divine presence, into the dimension He exists in.

"Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me." John 14:6

Posted: 7/27/2017 4:47:24 AM EDT

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Conscious observation is required for probability waves to form into reality. Whose consciousness
do you suppose holds the reality that is us?

He exists in any and all dimensions.

The 11 dimension are the spatial dimensions. The dimensions that He exists in allows Him to be with us
at all times even though we aren't aware of his presence in the 3 dimensions of our existence.

When the "veil" was rent on the day of the crucifixion, the death of Yehushua became the door by which we become
clean to pass through the veil into His pure and divine presence, into the dimension He exists in.

"Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me." John 14:6

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I like that. God observes, thus shapes outcomes on a cosmic scale. I hadn't considered that.

Posted: 7/27/2017 6:38:56 AM EDT

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I disagree it makes it a certainty. that one exist somewhere.

I personally believe science is wrong on many things we don't understand & that the alternative demisions are just a way to compensate sloppy math that does not fit the observation.

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Why do you assume that if many universes exist, then entities in one will necessarily be able to interact with entities in another?

Again, this is just your feeling. It is by no means a necessary conclusion given your premise.

Posted: 7/27/2017 6:43:50 AM EDT

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I like that. God observes, thus shapes outcomes on a cosmic scale. I hadn't considered that.

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What about the flip side of that argument?

"If that was true, then quantum uncertainty wouldn't be a thing, since he'd be observing everything. Thus quantum mechanics proves there isn't an omniscient observer."

In the end, I believe using science to try shoehorn in gods, or completely disprove the possibility of gods, are both just pissing in the wind.

Posted: 7/27/2017 8:08:19 AM EDT

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I'd move to the one where Lenin was never allowed to live and where Imperial Germany won WWI.

He'll, I'd move to the won where Colonial Africa still exists.

Posted: 7/27/2017 8:11:57 AM EDT

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God the creator is certain to exist in one of them

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God = the universes.

Not sure why you would limit God to only one universe, it's not like there are limited powers he only gets when he puts on a cape. He's got ALL of them.

Posted: 7/27/2017 11:57:32 AM EDT

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What about the flip side of that argument?

"If that was true, then quantum uncertainty wouldn't be a thing, since he'd be observing everything. Thus quantum mechanics proves there isn't an omniscient observer."

In the end, I believe using science to try shoehorn in gods, or completely disprove the possibility of gods, are both just pissing in the wind.

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I like that. God observes, thus shapes outcomes on a cosmic scale. I hadn't considered that.

What about the flip side of that argument?

"If that was true, then quantum uncertainty wouldn't be a thing, since he'd be observing everything. Thus quantum mechanics proves there isn't an omniscient observer."

In the end, I believe using science to try shoehorn in gods, or completely disprove the possibility of gods, are both just pissing in the wind.

What about another possibility, the one in which his consciousness leaves the probabilities and possibilities open except for that which conforms to his divine will, that being the existence of us and his plan for us. Our free will shapes the rest.

Posted: 7/27/2017 12:17:21 PM EDT

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Let's keep it respectful please ~ medicmandan

Posted: 7/27/2017 5:22:50 PM EDT

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What about another possibility, the one in which his consciousness leaves the probabilities and possibilities open except for that which conforms to his divine will, that being the existence of us and his plan for us. Our free will shapes the rest.

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And another: if one removes the need for an omniscient god, all these arguments go out the window. Everything from god collapsing the wave function, to Heisenberg uncertainty principle: where does god fit in, to predestination vs. free will, then become unnecessary arguments to have in relation to gods.

Posted: 7/27/2017 6:05:35 PM EDT

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And another: if one removes the need for an omniscient god, all these arguments go out the window. Everything from god collapsing the wave function, to Heisenberg uncertainty principle: where does god fit in, to predestination vs. free will, then become unnecessary arguments to have in relation to gods.

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What about another possibility, the one in which his consciousness leaves the probabilities and possibilities open except for that which conforms to his divine will, that being the existence of us and his plan for us. Our free will shapes the rest.

And another: if one removes the need for an omniscient god, all these arguments go out the window. Everything from god collapsing the wave function, to Heisenberg uncertainty principle: where does god fit in, to predestination vs. free will, then become unnecessary arguments to have in relation to gods.

Ok Mr. Contrarian.

Posted: 7/27/2017 6:13:04 PM EDT

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What about the flip side of that argument?

"If that was true, then quantum uncertainty wouldn't be a thing, since he'd be observing everything. Thus quantum mechanics proves there isn't an omniscient observer."

In the end, I believe using science to try shoehorn in gods, or completely disprove the possibility of gods, are both just pissing in the wind.

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"God is not bound by the rules he makes."

Posted: 7/28/2017 6:05:59 AM EDT

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Ok Mr. Contrarian.

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Hey, we're all just throwing out possibilities here.

Posted: 7/28/2017 6:07:06 AM EDT

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In an infinite universe anything can happen.

Posted: 7/28/2017 6:13:14 AM EDT

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God the creator is certain to exist in one of them

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Edited.
Oops. Missed this was the safe space... My bad.

Posted: 7/28/2017 10:37:03 AM EDT

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Triggered.

Posted: 7/28/2017 7:56:07 PM EDT

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You'd have to be autistic to come into the "Religion" forum and complain people are posting about God. Do you not realize where you are? I was banned from GD, but yet your "kind" follow me here to complain about religious threads.