Posted: 3/5/2014 7:28:03 PM EDT
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Ok, for those who do not sacrifice animals, how do they atone for sin? I am not into Judaism, but to answer your questions, sacrifices can no longer be made since there is no Temple at this time. If you will read the Bible you will find that sacrifices were for unintentional sin. Intentional sin is atoned for the same way for everyone, by believing that our Father in Heaven provides the unblemished Lamb. |
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Ok, for those who do not sacrifice animals, how do they atone for sin? I'm a Jew, so I'll weigh in...previous responses have been in error. You have to recall that during the times of Temple sacrifice, there were various types of offerings depending upon the type of sin. First fruits, first agriculture harvest could be offered up as sin-offerings. Animal sacrifice also was a sin offering. Many of these offerings where not consumed by fire as atonement to YHVY, but would also be consumed by the Levite priests and their families. This was used to support the Levites, caretakers of the Temple, as they had no land portion in Israel from which to make a living from. There were types of atonement based upon the sin and the ability of a penitent to supply an offering. Without going into detail, it was a formal method of public sacrifice. As I mentioned earlier, it was not only animal sacrifice, as offerings of fruits, vegetables, and other agricultural produce were also acceptable. Often the priest(s) and their families would partake in the offerings. It is important to note that in Judaism, sacrifice was never the exclusive means of obtaining forgiveness, was not in and of itself sufficient to obtain forgiveness, and in certain circumstances was not even effective to obtain forgiveness. Were sacrifices a symbol of the savior to come? Not according to Judaism. Quite the contrary, some would say that the original institution of sacrifice had more to do with the Judaism's past than with its future. Rambam suggested that the entire sacrificial cult in Judaism was ordained as an accommodation of man's primitive desires. Sacrifice is an ancient and universal human expression of religion. Greeks and Romans and Canaanites and Egyptians all offered sacrifices to their gods. Sacrifice existed among the Hebrews long before the giving of the Torah. Cain and Abel offered sacrifices; Noah and his sons offered sacrifices, and so forth. When the laws of sacrifice were given to the Children of Israel in the Torah, the pre-existence of a system of sacrificial offering was understood, and sacrificial terminology was used without any explanation. The Torah, rather than creating the institution of sacrifice, carefully limited the practice, permitting it only in certain places, at certain times, in certain manners, by certain people, and for certain purposes. Rambam suggests that these limitations are designed to wean a primitive people away from the debased rites of their idolatrous neighbors. See http://www.jewfaq.org/qorbanot.htm |
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Ok, for those who do not sacrifice animals, how do they atone for sin? The question is flawed. Sin is a greek work. In the Hebrew, there are various words for "sin" that are far more descriptive of what kind of transgression has taken place, not some "catch all" word for all transgressions,. In many cases, food/money was acceptable. The idea of animal sacrifice being the only way to "atone" for sin is a question framed from a lense that assumes a wrong understanding of the sacrificial system and what the Hebrew actually says. The lack of a sacrificial system, (food, money or animal) is also not without precedence. There was no system for hundreds of years between the destruction of the first Temple and the building of the second. The Hebrew writings are rather specific about the concept of teshuva (repentance) as well...if there is no national sacrificial system, then the sincere act of repentance/charity is acceptable. There is another subject here that isnt often talked about, because frankly, outside of traditional Judaism, few people really understand it, atonement is not some binary issue or ultimate condemnation. There is no heaven or hell in traditional Judaism. There is nothing for you to be "saved from. If you die in some state of "karmic unbalance, " you can make up for it in another life or another spiritual realm. Yes, reincarnation and transmigration of the soul are normative traditional Jewish doctrines. So is the lack of a western concept of Heaven or Hell (which are greek concepts) There is no need for salvation to avoid one and gain the other. The Jewish thought on the topic of "salvation" found in the traditional Jewish works, such as the Hebrew Bible, is about actual salvation in this world from physical perils, be they personal or National. On a final note, it is also important to keep in mind, in the Jewish system, especially the Temple system, 99% correct is 100% unacceptable. This is very critical when it comes to understanding the Jewish system of practice (in the traditional sense) if you cant (again, in most cases) carry out an aspect of Jewish law in its entirety, you cant do it at all. It really is an all or nothing issue. |
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No animal sacrifices and do a search for Yom Kippur. And what about this guy? Sacrificing for sins |
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No animal sacrifices and do a search for Yom Kippur. And what about this guy? Sacrificing for sins That story makes no sense. Why? Because a donkey is not a kosher animal. The sacrifice must be a kosher animal (and many other criteria that must be met that are not met in this case) That news story is the equivalent of crazy gun stories that a gun person would know in an instant was bullshit but someone who didnt know anything wouldnt be able to tell the technical issues that make the story bullshit. It would be like reading a story about M1 Garands and their important role in WWI. Few people would have a clue what is wrong with that...and might even post it to prove a point. If that story is true, what you have there are two people just trying to kill a donkey. |
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The Haredim are still practicing ritual sacrifice
ETA: Not sure if they still practice it in the US, but here in Israel they certainly do. Why try to deny it? It's part of the culture. Who cares what any one else thinks. |
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The Haredim are still practicing ritual sacrifice ETA: Not sure if they still practice it in the US, but here in Israel they certainly do. Why try to deny it? It's part of the culture. Who cares what any one else thinks. That is not the same as the Temple sacrificial system. That is also a custom not part of Jewish law. |