[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Explain Drifting please (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/8/2008 12:21:39 PM EDT
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What the hell is going on? I don't think I understand.
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I'm pretty sure it's a gay thing. Fags with 4 cylinders that can't drive, but think they can. ironically, drifters are some of the best drivers on the planet. basically, drifting is the act of controlled oversteer where the speed and angle away from straight get you points. you start a turn in a lower gear at high RPM, and as you start the turn you dump the clutch, causing the rear wheels to break loose around the turn. then, use the throttle to keep the wheels spinning while trying to get the ass end of the car to slide as far out as possible around the turn without losing it. on a side note, most drifters go through several sets of tires per day. |
| On a closed course it is cool. Durring a sharp turn on a rear wheel drive car the gas is punched as to spin the tires. Like a burnout... moving. It can be controlled and so drifting was born. Just take a two wheel drive four wheeler around a hard packed drit turn, lean into the turn and give it some gas... It is fun...on a four wheeler so I bet it is fun in a car to. |
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HAHAHA...I was just watching some of this driving on TV and a co-worker and I were commenting this is the dumbest kind of racing we've ever seen...
So, let me get this straight....you try to drive the quickest around a track while intentionally breaking loose your rear tires, thus loosing traction and speed...but you try to do it slightly faster that the other idiot who is also trying to drive quickly...while trying to slide around the track....loosing traction and speed...but trying to do it quicker that the other guy..... Good Lord! It's like speed walking.....either walk or run.... Checking the channels now for speed knitting...or speed crawling..... 
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ironically, drifters are some of the best drivers on the planet. basically, drifting is the act of controlled oversteer where the speed and angle away from straight get you points. you start a turn in a lower gear at high RPM, and as you start the turn you dump the clutch, causing the rear wheels to break loose around the turn. then, use the throttle to keep the wheels spinning while trying to get the ass end of the car to slide as far out as possible around the turn without losing it. on a side note, most drifters go through several sets of tires per day. Thanks for the explaination. That's what I gathered it was while watching on TV today, but wasn't quite sure. It looks like fun to do I guess. I mean burning rubber is fun 
I don't think I'd care to participate in a motorsport that the measure of my sucess was so subjective. I want timing lights, or transponders, that kind of thing. But to each their own. I also agree that it's a little weird that they are in race cars, and then try to make the cars do things race car drivers spend millions of dollars and countless hours trying to avoid. I would like to rip around in some of those cars though. |
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Yeah, just look at all these assholes who don't know how to drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ
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Yeah, just look at all these assholes who don't know how to drive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ DUde, no. We're talking about the guys in rice burners that are painted in flamboyant colors. Not WRC guys. Now WRC is awesome. |
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Yeah, just look at all these assholes who don't know how to drive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ No doubt those guys can drive. They obviously have to be totally in tune with what the car is doing to keep it right on the edge without losing control. It's like being in control of being out of control. I would never say those guys are crappy drivers. I bet they do great in the snow and ice too 
ETA: to be clear I am actually defending the drifters here, I don't think WRC needs anybody to speak for them..... it's pretty obvious they know WTF is going on. |
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Yeah, just look at all these assholes who don't know how to drive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ to be clear I am actually defending the drifters here like i said, drifters are actually very good drivers, although it may not look like it. i will agree its not really my cup of tea, but it definitely takes a little talent. |
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Nothing better than going into a corner, then punching the gas, and sliding out of it...
The wonders of RWD... Fuck ricers... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoZrvSMVwfc Two Thumbs up!!!!  
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For you noob drifters try this 1st.... for everyones saftey...
WARNING!!! DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FwA2gZ0eUc Enjoy 
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Yeah, just look at all these assholes who don't know how to drive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ Way to miss a point..... 
Rally racing is probably the most realistic racing there is....while the cars are VERY modified, you now have similar cars (WRX STi, Evo, etc..) avail to the public and they drive VERY fast on tiny, winding roads (that you or I could drive down) and they do it at break neck speeds and drift thru corners because it is faster than slowing down and steering thru....QUITE different from drift racing. Rally racing is to car racing what MMA is to fighing... |
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For you noob drifters try this 1st.... for everyones saftey... WARNING!!! DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FwA2gZ0eUc Enjoy LOL I like that. |
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I'm pretty sure it's a gay thing. Fags with 4 cylinders that can't drive, but think they can. ironically, drifters are some of the best drivers on the planet. basically, drifting is the act of controlled oversteer where the speed and angle away from straight get you points. you start a turn in a lower gear at high RPM, and as you start the turn you dump the clutch, causing the rear wheels to break loose around the turn. then, use the throttle to keep the wheels spinning while trying to get the ass end of the car to slide as far out as possible around the turn without losing it. on a side note, most drifters go through several sets of tires per day. Yeah,keep telling yourself that,guy,while you wonder where all your money went spending it on tires. I think it's the STUPIDEST sport out there,right up there with NASCAR. This little fad won't last. ETA: I refuse to own this stupid page because drifting is a useless sport that will die out in a few months. |
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Yeah,keep telling yourself that,guy,while you wonder where all your money went spending it on tires. I think it's the STUPIDEST sport out there,right up there with NASCAR. This little fad won't last. Okay since this is my thread  I'm going to pop in here and say it's pretty much a waste of space, time, bandwidth, breath, effort to tell other people their hobby, sport, or motorsport is stupid.
Everybody in the world has a certain group of things they don't like/can't identify with. BFD. I don't really think drifting is all that cool either. Just like I don't watch dog shows, dressage (horses jumping shit), curling, cricket, or triathalons. I don't like watching NASCAR (like watching golf). But driving one of the cars (at least reasonably close to one) at the Richard Petty Driving Experience was a whole load of fun for me. People think me drag racing a diesel truck is retarded. Who cares? To compare drifting to NASCAR, then declare that it won't last, doesn't really make any sense. That pretty much proves that what one person thinks is stupid, could be something a whole bunch of other people base their lives around. I bet there is more NASCAR coverage on TV than.... oh let's say..... motorcyle racing (or drifting) .
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Just to show the diesel truck boys can drift too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHPyjSG9p2M |
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Yeah,keep telling yourself that,guy,while you wonder where all your money went spending it on tires. I think it's the STUPIDEST sport out there,right up there with NASCAR. This little fad won't last. Okay since this is my thread I'm going to pop in here and say it's pretty much a waste of space, time, bandwidth, breath, effort to tell other people their hobby, sport, or motorsport is stupid.
Everybody in the world has a certain group of things they don't like/can't identify with. BFD. I don't really think drifting is all that cool either. Just like I don't watch dog shows, dressage (horses jumping shit), curling, cricket, or triathalons. I don't like watching NASCAR (like watching golf). But driving one of the cars (at least reasonably close to one) at the Richard Petty Driving Experience was a whole load of fun for me. People think me drag racing a diesel truck is retarded. Who cares? To compare drifting to NASCAR, then declare that it won't last, doesn't really make any sense. That pretty much proves that what one person thinks is stupid, could be something a whole bunch of other people base their lives around. I bet there is more NASCAR coverage on TV than.... oh let's say..... motorcyle racing (or drifting)  .OK,I've been an avid motorcycle rider for about 25 years. There's no WAY IN HELL that "drifting" has that type of following. We're done here. |
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OK,I've been an avid motorcycle rider for about 25 years. There's no WAY IN HELL that "drifting" has that type of following. We're done here. Just going out on a limb here and saying motorcyle racing/riding DOES HAVE a greater following than drifting
That doesn't change the fact there are a lot of people that don't think it's stupid. I'm in the "It's stupid, but you can do whatever you want" camp |
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OK,I've been an avid motorcycle rider for about 25 years. There's no WAY IN HELL that "drifting" has that type of following. We're done here. Just going out on a limb here and saying motorcyle racing/riding DOES HAVE a greater following than drifting
That doesn't change the fact there are a lot of people that don't think it's stupid. I'm in the "It's stupid, but you can do whatever you want" camp You misunderstood me. I know that mc racing has been around for awhile. It will be around LOOOOONG after this stupid bullshit drifting passes. I saw like 10 minutes and was thinking that there are guys that are older than me trying to make a quick buck before it's shut down. I'm sorry,but drifting to me a a seriuously stupid pass-time,not even a sport. |
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I'm pretty sure it's a gay thing. Fags with 4 cylinders that can't drive, but think they can. ironically, drifters are some of the best drivers on the planet. basically, drifting is the act of controlled oversteer where the speed and angle away from straight get you points. you start a turn in a lower gear at high RPM, and as you start the turn you dump the clutch, causing the rear wheels to break loose around the turn. then, use the throttle to keep the wheels spinning while trying to get the ass end of the car to slide as far out as possible around the turn without losing it. on a side note, most drifters go through several sets of tires per day. Yeah,keep telling yourself that,guy,while you wonder where all your money went spending it on tires. I think it's the STUPIDEST sport out there,right up there with NASCAR. This little fad won't last. ETA: I refuse to own this stupid page because drifting is a useless sport that will die out in a few months. ok first, i would appreciate it if you'd at least pretend to treat me (or anyone you dont agree with) with some modicum of respect. if you cant do that, kindly refrain from posting. second, have you ever TRIED drifting? im really not a fan of it either (nor of nascar for that matter), but i certainly will let others do what they like and maybe even give it a shot once. do us all a favor and go try drifting. seriously. go try driving like that. i bet you put your car into a wall in under a minute. just like nascar takes talent to drive even though its boring to watch, so to does drifting. so please, next time you want to impose your opinion on someone else, do a little research first. and for the guy that said drifting is all civics, ever tried drifting a FWD car? good fricken luck. every drift car out there is RWD or AWD (mostly RWD). theres even a guy that does quite well drifting a 69 camaro. |
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I'm pretty sure it's a gay thing. Fags with 4 cylinders that can't drive, but think they can. ironically, drifters are some of the best drivers on the planet. basically, drifting is the act of controlled oversteer where the speed and angle away from straight get you points. you start a turn in a lower gear at high RPM, and as you start the turn you dump the clutch, causing the rear wheels to break loose around the turn. then, use the throttle to keep the wheels spinning while trying to get the ass end of the car to slide as far out as possible around the turn without losing it. on a side note, most drifters go through several sets of tires per day. Yeah,keep telling yourself that,guy,while you wonder where all your money went spending it on tires. I think it's the STUPIDEST sport out there,right up there with NASCAR. This little fad won't last. ETA: I refuse to own this stupid page because drifting is a useless sport that will die out in a few months. ok first, i would appreciate it if you'd at least pretend to treat me (or anyone you dont agree with) with some modicum of respect. if you cant do that, kindly refrain from posting. second, have you ever TRIED drifting? im really not a fan of it either (nor of nascar for that matter), but i certainly will let others do what they like and maybe even give it a shot once. do us all a favor and go try drifting. seriously. go try driving like that. i bet you put your car into a wall in under a minute. just like nascar takes talent to drive even though its boring to watch, so to does drifting. so please, next time you want to impose your opinion on someone else, do a little research first. and for the guy that said drifting is all civics, ever tried drifting a FWD car? good fricken luck. every drift car out there is RWD or AWD (mostly RWD). theres even a guy that does quite well drifting a 69 camaro. First off,I did treat you with respect. Did I say that you were STUPID for thinking that drifting is a sport? Did I call you an IMBECILE for wasting money on tires going through curves that could be done in MUCH quicker times if you DIDN'T drift? Did I call you an IDIOT for comparing drifting to other legit sports like rally racing,the Pike's Peak Challenge,motorcycle racing and all other serious,legit sports. No I did NOT! So now go outside and practice your "skills" at your nearest Wal-Mart parking lot! 
Sorry for that. I've got this kid who lives up my cul-de-sac who freakin' has those loud-ass pipes on his little rice-burner car and he works the night-shift. Wakes my ass up at midnight most times. Really pisses me off. |
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First, I'd like to address the argument that drifting is just a 'fad' that won't survive.
If you educated yourself, you would find that drifting has its roots in Japanese illegal street racing culture. Races were held on the streets or on twisting narrow mountain passes. Illegal street racing has been around for how long? I would say since the dawn of the modern automobile... maybe even before that when people raced horses on dangerous paths. How short do you consider a 'fad?' because drifting has been around for more than 15 years internationally. Maybe it seems new to you because you don't have an international perspective of the sport. To demonstrate the longevity of drifting as a popular 'sport,' I present exhibit A: Initial D. While this example is just a long-running comic-strip turned into an animation and live-action movie, it demonstrates the popular demand this sport commands. The long-running commercial and financial sucess of this franchise also supports that drifting isn't a fad. Exhibit B: Toyota AE86 One of the popular cars that have been used in the sport. Second, to those who say that drifting is no-talent, gay ricer-boys in their riced out Civics, give me a break - you don't know of what you speak. Maybe the American version of drifting gave you a bad impression, but please educate yourself before slamming something you don't know about. Video of some seasoned Japanese drifters. Third, I agree that drifting that is seen on American TV can hardly be called racing. It is more proper to call it a demonstration or exhibition. People like to see lots of smoke and the occasional mis-hap or spinout. Finally I would like to ask a serious question to raygixxer: In motorcycle racing, when leaned over, taking a curve at high-speed with the front wheel pointed in the opposite direction of the turn, and the rear wheel is out of the center line spinning slightly faster than the front wheel, what is this called? 
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Yeah, just look at all these assholes who don't know how to drive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ Way to miss a point.....
Rally racing is probably the most realistic racing there is....while the cars are VERY modified, you now have similar cars (WRX STi, Evo, etc..) avail to the public and they drive VERY fast on tiny, winding roads (that you or I could drive down) and they do it at break neck speeds and drift thru corners because it is faster than slowing down and steering thru....QUITE different from drift racing. Rally racing is to car racing what MMA is to fighing... +1000 to that ! WRC is the MOST exciting racing period! Fast Cars, Real Roads, People inches away waiting for action (be it great driving or big crash) "DRIFTING" as a "sport" is a JOKE! WRC is the REAL DEAL! BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Ok, I may be lost.
I thought "drifting" was just a technique involving controlled oversteer (as used in the curves in dirt-track racing) to get through a curve/corner. That I don't see anything wrong with, I long ago found it to be the best way to get heavy sedans and trucks through sharp turns. But you guys seem to be referring to it not as a technique, but as a race in and of itself? Am I getting this right? |