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6/12/2007 10:33:09 AM EDT
I have a TSX now and was considerring either a TL-S or Lexus IS350,
but have been looking at the RDX at first simply cause, come on, that's a cool name.

No smoking in an RDX, huh?

Then I noticed an engine blurb.
I knew it was a turbo-4 but I didn't know it's just a TSX with a turbo...
HOT DAMN if they put that in a TSX (maybe type-S?) I'd buy TWO!!!

Any automotive reason that they wouldn't do this???  

Everyone I know who has my car has one complaint - it's zippy, not fast.

What a great car otherwise...



Part of the "TSX SUV" equation, in fact, comes from the engine, a reworked version of that from the TSX with a new variable-flow turbocharged strapped on to produce strong power and the most torque of any of the brand's vehicles, including the RL sedan. The turbo 2.3-liter four-cylinder whistles out 240 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque, tuned for the low-end response and blissfully without much turbo lag at all.
6/12/2007 7:54:14 PM EDT
[#1]
This months Car and Driver has a good comparo between the X3, RDX, and another one that esapes me.
6/12/2007 8:02:27 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I have a TSX now and was considerring either a TL-S or Lexus IS350,
but have been looking at the RDX at first simply cause, come on, that's a cool name.

No smoking in an RDX, huh?

Then I noticed an engine blurb.
I knew it was a turbo-4 but I didn't know it's just a TSX with a turbo...
HOT DAMN if they put that in a TSX (maybe type-S?) I'd buy TWO!!!

Any automotive reason that they wouldn't do this???

Everyone I know who has my car has one complaint - it's zippy, not fast.

What a great car otherwise...



Part of the "TSX SUV" equation, in fact, comes from the engine, a reworked version of that from the TSX with a new variable-flow turbocharged strapped on to produce strong power and the most torque of any of the brand's vehicles, including the RL sedan. The turbo 2.3-liter four-cylinder whistles out 240 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque, tuned for the low-end response and blissfully without much turbo lag at all.


Because they're Honda/Acura. They STILL don't have a V8 for production cars and they've been in the US for what? 20+ years?

Acuras are nice, but you're right - they feel 'zippy' like a Civic. I want my luxury car to feel powerful - it needs to be able to haul it's own ass and then some (i.e. If I were to get into a race with a similar car, I'd need to AT LEAST be able to hold my own, even if I couldn't beat them). You just aren't going to do that with an Acura.

They're nice cars for boy racers who want to look 'mad tyte' in a 'luxury' car, but I'll take a German, American (read: Cadillac), or Lexus/Infiniti over an Acura any day simply because they have power. Acura styling (apart from the NSX and maybe Integra) is boring and plain - it's for the guy who likes the whole 'understated luxury' look, which is popular in Japan but no so popular in the states.

I can appreciate an Acura, especially the technology they pack into those cars, but to me , when it comes right down to it, it just looks like a glorified Accord. If I'm spending $30,000+ on a car, it's either because I want a performer or something that looks like DAMN (like a Charger or a Chrysler 300C). I drive a Cadillac Seville STS, which is powerful (Northstar V8), looks good after all these years (I drive a black '93 model), and can hold it's own (it's a big comfortable car, but it's still a 'touring car')
6/12/2007 8:21:02 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
This months Car and Driver has a good comparo between the X3, RDX, and another one that esapes me.


yep, that's in the office bathroom and what got me thinking RDX.  F ride, F space I WANT SPEED!
6/12/2007 8:22:40 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a TSX now and was considerring either a TL-S or Lexus IS350,
but have been looking at the RDX at first simply cause, come on, that's a cool name.

No smoking in an RDX, huh?

Then I noticed an engine blurb.
I knew it was a turbo-4 but I didn't know it's just a TSX with a turbo...
HOT DAMN if they put that in a TSX (maybe type-S?) I'd buy TWO!!!

Any automotive reason that they wouldn't do this???

Everyone I know who has my car has one complaint - it's zippy, not fast.

What a great car otherwise...



Part of the "TSX SUV" equation, in fact, comes from the engine, a reworked version of that from the TSX with a new variable-flow turbocharged strapped on to produce strong power and the most torque of any of the brand's vehicles, including the RL sedan. The turbo 2.3-liter four-cylinder whistles out 240 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque, tuned for the low-end response and blissfully without much turbo lag at all.


Because they're Honda/Acura. They STILL don't have a V8 for production cars and they've been in the US for what? 20+ years?

Acuras are nice, but you're right - they feel 'zippy' like a Civic. I want my luxury car to feel powerful - it needs to be able to haul it's own ass and then some (i.e. If I were to get into a race with a similar car, I'd need to AT LEAST be able to hold my own, even if I couldn't beat them). You just aren't going to do that with an Acura.

They're nice cars for boy racers who want to look 'mad tyte' in a 'luxury' car, but I'll take a German, American (read: Cadillac), or Lexus/Infiniti over an Acura any day simply because they have power. Acura styling (apart from the NSX and maybe Integra) is boring and plain - it's for the guy who likes the whole 'understated luxury' look, which is popular in Japan but no so popular in the states.

I can appreciate an Acura, especially the technology they pack into those cars, but to me , when it comes right down to it, it just looks like a glorified Accord. If I'm spending $30,000+ on a car, it's either because I want a performer or something that looks like DAMN (like a Charger or a Chrysler 300C). I drive a Cadillac Seville STS, which is powerful (Northstar V8), looks good after all these years (I drive a black '93 model), and can hold it's own (it's a big comfortable car, but it's still a 'touring car')


well, my next choices (rdx aside) are faster and bigger (TL-s) or same size, but VERY fast (IS350)...

I will only buy lexus or acura.  this country can't make a decent car anymroe, and german parts and service ain't for me.
6/12/2007 8:35:26 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a TSX now and was considerring either a TL-S or Lexus IS350,
but have been looking at the RDX at first simply cause, come on, that's a cool name.

No smoking in an RDX, huh?

Then I noticed an engine blurb.
I knew it was a turbo-4 but I didn't know it's just a TSX with a turbo...
HOT DAMN if they put that in a TSX (maybe type-S?) I'd buy TWO!!!

Any automotive reason that they wouldn't do this???

Everyone I know who has my car has one complaint - it's zippy, not fast.

What a great car otherwise...



Part of the "TSX SUV" equation, in fact, comes from the engine, a reworked version of that from the TSX with a new variable-flow turbocharged strapped on to produce strong power and the most torque of any of the brand's vehicles, including the RL sedan. The turbo 2.3-liter four-cylinder whistles out 240 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque, tuned for the low-end response and blissfully without much turbo lag at all.


Because they're Honda/Acura. They STILL don't have a V8 for production cars and they've been in the US for what? 20+ years?

Acuras are nice, but you're right - they feel 'zippy' like a Civic. I want my luxury car to feel powerful - it needs to be able to haul it's own ass and then some (i.e. If I were to get into a race with a similar car, I'd need to AT LEAST be able to hold my own, even if I couldn't beat them). You just aren't going to do that with an Acura.

They're nice cars for boy racers who want to look 'mad tyte' in a 'luxury' car, but I'll take a German, American (read: Cadillac), or Lexus/Infiniti over an Acura any day simply because they have power. Acura styling (apart from the NSX and maybe Integra) is boring and plain - it's for the guy who likes the whole 'understated luxury' look, which is popular in Japan but no so popular in the states.

I can appreciate an Acura, especially the technology they pack into those cars, but to me , when it comes right down to it, it just looks like a glorified Accord. If I'm spending $30,000+ on a car, it's either because I want a performer or something that looks like DAMN (like a Charger or a Chrysler 300C). I drive a Cadillac Seville STS, which is powerful (Northstar V8), looks good after all these years (I drive a black '93 model), and can hold it's own (it's a big comfortable car, but it's still a 'touring car')


well, my next choices (rdx aside) are faster and bigger (TL-s) or same size, but VERY fast (IS350)...

I will only buy lexus or acura.  this country can't make a decent car anymroe, and german parts and service ain't for me.


Go take a look at a new Cadillac. You sound like you're looking for a $30,000-40,000 car with a 300HP V6; The 2008 CTS is exactly that and it looks bolder than both the IS (which is a good car) and the TL-S (which is good, but overpriced):



They're a reliable model (they're recommended by Consumer Reports) and the second generation (the '08 model) above which comes out in August fixes all of the quirks that the first gen model had.
6/12/2007 8:35:28 PM EDT
[#6]
I bought a new Type-S in April,
what a fantastic car! Viva Acura!

6/12/2007 9:17:59 PM EDT
[#7]
I'm considering a TSX as my next car purchase.  Is it true that the TSX has a timing chain, not a belt?

What kind of mileage are you getting in yours?  My coworker, with an 07, is getting 27 in town and 35 on the highway.  That seems exceptional for this car, but another guy I worked with was getting about the same, and he was a chronic leadfoot.

Just wondering,

Allan
6/12/2007 10:30:54 PM EDT
[#8]


 IS350  


 it's  got the correct set of  wheels  propeling the car
6/13/2007 2:54:32 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I'm considering a TSX as my next car purchase.  Is it true that the TSX has a timing chain, not a belt?

What kind of mileage are you getting in yours?  My coworker, with an 07, is getting 27 in town and 35 on the highway.  That seems exceptional for this car, but another guy I worked with was getting about the same, and he was a chronic leadfoot.

Just wondering,

Allan


I don't know a thing about the internals, all I know is I treat it like CRAP and it comes back begging for more.  This car is perfect except for the speed.  It is not slow by any means, but you'll only beat SUV's and buick's off the sto plight .

It has NEVER let me down.  Sicne I drive like Bobby Lebonte I had to replace the tires two at t time at 20000 and 30000 miles, brakes squealed at 25000 too.  All my fault, not car.

I still think it's the best combination of features, speed, handling and price out there though, especailly in Jan 2005 when I got it.

The new IS350 wasn't around then though.  the IS has its faults too, but I'm willing to sacrifice for speed.

and the mielage otn eh tsx blows away the advertised numbers.  I drove alot from VA to NY over the last two years and highway was also in the 35-40 range for me.  city is not bad either, probably more mid 20's than 27 though.

I fed it 93 until last year, now 89 - my dealer said I could feed it 87 really, but I figure if I treat it like shit, at least I can fed her well.

Brigning her in this week for some free repairs (trunk broke - wind ripped it passed its stop point) and door lock linkage in front door is down - this is the only non-chapperjoe caused problem I've had.  And liek I said its a free repair.

the onyl non-speed complaint I have is that the lights on my tsx ( no nav) are nto automatic and the trunk lid is heavy as HELL.  I want a trunk to pop open, this does nto by any means.

I'm paying pennies for it - 320 a month with a 3000 down payment (or was it 4?  I dunno, my famiyl put up the down as a going away gift to VA!) - and really couldn't be happier with the price/performance/luxury I'm getting.