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Link Posted: 11/30/2022 2:58:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/30/2022 2:59:54 AM EDT
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You can see the high quality of my paintmanship
Link Posted: 12/13/2022 3:56:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun] [#3]
I promised folks I would spend the evening working and put the brdm back together and do a lot more work on the Roland.

Didn’t happen.

I did spend a bunch of time and remove old nasty rust and paint from the hull of the Roland. I felt it was too wet to paint right now.





Snapped four bolts getting this thing off. Water seeped into the threads and it was rusted and corroded badly. Time for penetrating oil and if that doesn’t work more helicoils



Cleaned up underneath and all inside the individual grill vents

Spent some time on the hull












If I spend about one night a week and 4-5 hours I can have this all done in a couple months.

I’m going to have to hammer the periscopes out. That’s what’s keeping me from finishing the outside right now.

Goal: Have a totally 100% turn key ride with no rust.

I'll get there eventually.
Link Posted: 12/13/2022 9:23:09 AM EDT
[#4]
This is so awesome.
Thank you for sharing this stuff with us.
Link Posted: 12/19/2022 12:31:47 AM EDT
[#5]
It's a big project, but you're making great progress!
Link Posted: 12/19/2022 12:59:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MaxxII:
This is so awesome.
Thank you for sharing this stuff with us.
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Thanks man. It’s my passion and drive to get this completely done in early 23. Have some big places to go and m35ben needs to have the wind run through his hair

Link Posted: 12/19/2022 1:13:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sca037:
It's a big project, but you're making great progress!
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@m35ben is the king of the mechanical side. Without his invaluable expertise and skills this whole endeavor would be still crawling, not walking.

I focus on the cosmetic side because that’s what I’m good at and it’s monotonous grinding and painting.

Link Posted: 12/19/2022 12:53:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2022 2:03:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Striker:
have access to a welder? if so try the copper tube trick on the broken bolts.
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I know less about welding than biden can speak proper English.

Copper tube truck?
Link Posted: 12/19/2022 9:54:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


I know less about welding than biden can speak proper English.

Copper tube truck?
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By Striker:
have access to a welder? if so try the copper tube trick on the broken bolts.


I know less about welding than biden can speak proper English.

Copper tube truck?
Extract Broken bolts from deep hole NEW easy WAY

Link Posted: 12/22/2022 11:04:02 PM EDT
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Neat. I need to get my garage wired for my welder.
Link Posted: 12/23/2022 11:48:21 AM EDT
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Tag...
Link Posted: 12/23/2022 6:11:52 PM EDT
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Ooooh nice.

Originally Posted By thezentree:


Neat. I need to get my garage wired for my welder.


When I had my shop electrified they installed a 100amp plug for a welder.

I’m going to need it.
Link Posted: 12/23/2022 6:12:44 PM EDT
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My goal is to have both vehicles running in 2023.

I am in Europe at the moment and checking out other vehicles.

I have some ideas
Link Posted: 12/23/2022 6:58:50 PM EDT
[#15]
Cool project man

I personally wouldve done a camo pattern but it looks awesome

You need to find a wrecked hellcat and throw 6.4 drivetrain in it

Link Posted: 12/23/2022 7:08:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By J-L:
Cool project man

I personally wouldve done a camo pattern but it looks awesome

You need to find a wrecked hellcat and throw 6.4 drivetrain in it

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I want to get the project on the road in a month or two. When the engine blows I want to drop a 360 in since it’s a direct fit and go from there. A hellcat engine would be insane.

My goal is to restore it to as in service condition as I can, minus the European cigarettes and Greek cops
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 8:28:45 AM EDT
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If the engine blows up, what about a 5.7L Hemi swap?  I believe the transmission bolt patterns are the same, and you'd gain power + fuel economy + reliability.
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 10:24:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2022 12:08:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Striker:
and long smokey burnouts.
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Hmm, Mowag at a Cleetus and Cars burnout competition? Definitely the first APC to compete!
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 1:38:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMC2111:
If the engine blows up, what about a 5.7L Hemi swap?  I believe the transmission bolt patterns are the same, and you'd gain power + fuel economy + reliability.
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Cost

I run on a show string budget. I also don’t want to make it so fast I run the risk of goosing it too much.

I’d do anything for an automatic trans, however
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 5:09:50 PM EDT
[#21]
Just go to Cleveland Power and Performance
They've got the perfect setup for you.
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Link Posted: 12/24/2022 5:17:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lokjell:
Just go to Cleveland Power and Performance
They've got the perfect setup for you.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25385/Screenshot_20221224_130822_Chrome_jpg-2647482.JPG
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I can only imagine the highest care was taken in operating this engine on the roadways leading to no link of why this is a takeout engine at such low miles.

Cough cough street burnouts road takeover
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 5:45:18 PM EDT
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Another idea:

Replace the heater run off the engine coolant, cap off the lines, and run one off the 12v system.

Current list of things to do:

Paint interior. Grind down
Helicoil inside left hose cover mounts
Helicoil engine cover mounts
New springs and struts
Fuel pump-mech vs electric
Air filter system
New heater
New cabin fan
Re up holster 3x seats
New carb and/or Petronics ignition (later)
Remove old periscopes and replace with new, new armor glass all around
New seals on everything
Adjust left door, rubs on hull
New tiresx5

Register and insure

Link Posted: 12/24/2022 8:41:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


I want to get the project on the road in a month or two. When the engine blows I want to drop a 360 in since it’s a direct fit and go from there. A hellcat engine would be insane.

My goal is to restore it to as in service condition as I can, minus the European cigarettes and Greek cops
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By J-L:
Cool project man

I personally wouldve done a camo pattern but it looks awesome

You need to find a wrecked hellcat and throw 6.4 drivetrain in it



I want to get the project on the road in a month or two. When the engine blows I want to drop a 360 in since it’s a direct fit and go from there. A hellcat engine would be insane.

My goal is to restore it to as in service condition as I can, minus the European cigarettes and Greek cops



What's wrong with Greek Cops?
POLICE ACADEMY (1984) THE BLUE OYSTER "SALAD" BAR
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 10:43:29 PM EDT
[#25]
keeping this thing as original as possible is probably the best thing.

I think there are less than 10 of these in the USA.
Link Posted: 12/24/2022 11:10:11 PM EDT
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Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 12/25/2022 5:22:04 AM EDT
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Bigger_Hammer


I’m driving a 15 year old car for a reason

Originally Posted By OverScoped:
keeping this thing as original as possible is probably the best thing.

I think there are less than 10 of these in the USA.


5. 2 are privately owned in Texas. One converged to some SDKFZ clone in the Midwest.

The other 2 still in Michigan

Link Posted: 1/2/2023 4:36:25 AM EDT
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Cleaning up some missed spots.



These were exposed to water and had some flash rust but a wire wheel and some drillin' and it's cleaned and suitable for painting.

Which it got.

This is the engine air intake cover.





This is the engine bay cover.



Turret hatch interior-painted, but I need to get a foam pad for it. When it hits your head it hurts.

Researching seals since I need 6 replacements-rear hatch, rear troop overhead, side doors, turret, and drivers station.


The periscopes normally have a latching mechanism but they were stolen off this vehicle. It also has a lot of rust and corrosion locking the periscopes in. I’ve been using penetrating oil to loosen it but no luck so far.





My angle grinder decided to give up the ghost and slowly started spinning slower and slower. It couldn’t handle the thick glass and plastic of the periscope.

Troop compartment overhead door seal fitting







Turret hatch seal measurement





Turret and drivers hatch are dimensionally similar seal wise. So I can order 2 rubber pieces and it will fit both.

Link Posted: 1/6/2023 12:03:16 PM EDT
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@miami_jbt

Not UN white but blue
Link Posted: 1/6/2023 12:57:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Interesting project .

Can you get proper size/weight rating tires from a normal truck outfit or do you have to special order?
Link Posted: 1/8/2023 2:13:16 AM EDT
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Interesting project .

Can you get proper size/weight rating tires from a normal truck outfit or do you have to special order?
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I’ve got a couple options

Use spacers and go with Hmmwv tires

Go original with the NDT STA 9,00-r16 split rims

Take a tire/wheel and go to a shop and find a truck tire and wheel that fits
Link Posted: 1/9/2023 12:06:00 AM EDT
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@m35ben came over and worked on converting it back to the original mechanical fuel pump. At some point a 12v in-line fuel pump had been installed. Less than ideal.

Once the reciprocating saw arrived I cut 80% of the periscopes out. I’m not sure how I’ll get the rest out since it’s pretty well nestled inside the mounts, but I may need to use a torch and/or air chisel to drive them out.

I can’t finish the exterior until tnose periscopes are out because I need to paint around them
Link Posted: 1/9/2023 12:50:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/11/2023 11:14:59 PM EDT
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More work





Everything is going to be white so it’s easier to find stuff in the dark.








Going to start on the mid cabin in the morning when I get back.

I figure if I Do 2 hours a day I’ll be a bit closer to the goal of February.
Link Posted: 1/12/2023 10:44:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/13/2023 9:58:20 AM EDT
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I went home early today to work and lasted about an hour before the cold got to me.

Working in an uninsulated shop is miserable.
Link Posted: 1/15/2023 10:14:02 PM EDT
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It wasn’t a ballsy cold day so work got done courtesy of @m35ben



Fuel pump and alternator reinstalled, just needing hose clamps



Floor boards and passenger seats cleaned up



Towards the rear of the vehicle



One day I’ll pull the fuel tank to clean it and redo it but not today.



Yes our leaf springs are bad-another thing to work on.

Link Posted: 1/16/2023 11:58:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2023 9:42:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Striker:
hope you guys are wearing respirators if you are spraying brake clean inside it. that stuff is bad ju ju to breath in.
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I generally do it in an open area and/or with a fan going.

Link Posted: 1/16/2023 10:13:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2023 2:43:20 AM EDT
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I'd wear a respirator unless you are using it outside.
https://www.envirofluid.com/articles/tetrachloroethylene-a-deadly-danger-in-brake-cleaner/
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Plain ol' n100 or n95?



Yes, our leaf springs are bad.

Wife went to work tonight leaving me alone with 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a lot of free time.

Pics coming shortly. But a lot done. Almost done with the inside of the troop compartment.
Link Posted: 1/17/2023 7:41:05 AM EDT
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You can see the oil filter access cover here









These only last 2-3 hours





Link Posted: 1/20/2023 6:22:13 AM EDT
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@jack67
Link Posted: 1/20/2023 6:26:00 AM EDT
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LoL.

You and my Dad should get together (and I).  Nicely done.

Nothing on this scale,  but we’ve done lots of cars, tractors, etc.  Nice.!!

I didn’t know what to make of “If the Egyptian General will return my calls…” comment before, but now I get it. ;)

My dad restored trains for the L&N, then did armor and armored recovery at Ft. Knox.  I thought we played with good sized toys but that takes the cake!!

Nicley done.

Link Posted: 1/20/2023 6:29:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack67:
LoL.

You and my Dad should get together (and I).  Nicely done.

Nothing on this scale,  but we’ve done lots of cars, tractors, etc.  Nice.!!
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I get overwhelmed sometimes on the scale and enormity of it. It’s only been 5 months since it arrived and it’s about 60% done.
Link Posted: 1/20/2023 6:44:56 AM EDT
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That’s still impressive. I’ve got lesser projects still sitting around nowhere near that far along. I know how much it sucks to get in with a grinder like that - wow that’s impressive.

I’ll go back to the top of the thread to review where you got it/what it is.
Link Posted: 1/20/2023 8:41:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack67:
That’s still impressive. I’ve got lesser projects still sitting around nowhere near that far along. I know how much it sucks to get in with a grinder like that - wow that’s impressive.

I’ll go back to the top of the thread to review where you got it/what it is.
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I am very good at accumulating projects and not nearly good enough at getting them done and complete. I have the BRDM which I started last summer (2020) and still have to finish. It has brake problems, a misfire, and a leaky transmission gasket. I just completed the concrete at the shop. Still have to do insulation. Fix a sporadic leak. Build a fence. Cut down some trees.

The roland needs the interior repainted/tore down, heater hose/coolant bypass, so much more.

I'm good at making money, good at spending it, not good at finding the time to complete the million projects I already have
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 8:41:55 PM EDT
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Some work done today.

Not much but an elephant is eaten one bite at a time

All of the top bottom and middle interior hull is done until the back turret brace







I ran the brdm for about 20 minutes in 2nd gear.

Looking at these rims since they have the same back space and 8 lug pattern. Does anyone think they’re strong enough? Going to get  some decent heavy rated tires.


Coker tires
Link Posted: 2/22/2023 6:26:48 AM EDT
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New engine cover seals installed






Link Posted: 2/27/2023 4:52:00 PM EDT
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Little more done this morning

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