User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 8:33:26 AM EDT
So my daughter owns a 2013 Ford Escape. Her front right parking lamps burned out. And how does one access these bulbs?
Jack the car up, remove the front right tire. Remove 12-15 7mm screws. Remove 3 trim plugs. Pull wheel well liner back as far as you can and fold behind caliper. Go under the hood and disconnect the filler tube for the windshield washer fluid reservoir from cross brace and remove. Go back up inside front bumper and remove the two 10mm bolts holding the reservoir in place. Pull motor/pump and wiring plug from reservoir while washer fluid runs down your arm. Contort the reservoir in a position that you will forget when you try to replace to get it to come out. Reach up into bumper, twist out sockets from lamp housing. Do your damnedest to put other arm up into opening to hold sockets while pulling out bulbs. Replace all in reverse order. Apologize to neighbors for sounding like the Tourrets Mechanic. I miss the days when they had two simple Phillips head screws holding the lens in place. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 8:57:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Manufacturers have discovered that there is far more money in maintenance than vehicle sales.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 8:58:21 AM EDT
[#2]
Tell your daughter to watch this simple step by step video which did not require any of that. She can do it herself.
https://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2013_Ford_Escape_SE_1.6L_4_Cyl._Turbo/lights/parking_light |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:03:10 AM EDT
[#3]
lol you'll enjoy swapping out the battery.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:03:13 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Manufacturers have discovered that there is far more money in maintenance than vehicle sales. Designer: "here is the beautiful new Ford Fuckup!" Management: "Here, engineers, fit everything into the form the designers made." Engineers: "Goddammit, there isn't enough room for it all unless you want to turn 'change a headlight' into a 5-hour job." Accounting: "We cannot afford to redesign it. Engineers, make it happen." Engineers: "Fine, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck the buyer too!!" So ultimately you end up with 10 pounds of shit crammed into a 5-pound bag. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:09:27 AM EDT
[#5]
You are supposed to trade them in and buy a new one when a light burns out.
If they weren't so cheap on their hard to get to lights, they would have just put in a LED bulb and it would still be working 10 years down the road. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:11:55 AM EDT
[#6]
In order to change a headlamp bulb on my daughters equinox, I have to remove the front grill and disassemble the battery. It's ridiculous. They put all this extra crap covers etc on there knowing some people
will not be able to replace this themselves. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:14:00 AM EDT
[#7]
All the new vehicles are a pain in the ass to work in, that's why I'm sticking to my old 7.3
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:57:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Manufacturers have discovered that there is far more money in maintenance than vehicle sales. OEs only sell parts.....not labor. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 9:58:00 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
there is probably also a lot of this: Designer: "here is the beautiful new Ford Fuckup!" Management: "Here, engineers, fit everything into the form the designers made." Engineers: "Goddammit, there isn't enough room for it all unless you want to turn 'change a headlight' into a 5-hour job." Accounting: "We cannot afford to redesign it. Engineers, make it happen." Engineers: "Fine, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck the buyer too!!" So ultimately you end up with 10 pounds of shit crammed into a 5-pound bag. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Manufacturers have discovered that there is far more money in maintenance than vehicle sales. Designer: "here is the beautiful new Ford Fuckup!" Management: "Here, engineers, fit everything into the form the designers made." Engineers: "Goddammit, there isn't enough room for it all unless you want to turn 'change a headlight' into a 5-hour job." Accounting: "We cannot afford to redesign it. Engineers, make it happen." Engineers: "Fine, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck the buyer too!!" So ultimately you end up with 10 pounds of shit crammed into a 5-pound bag. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 10:06:13 AM EDT
[#10]
Lol, Ram trucks are really pretty easy to work on, but...
I serviced my transmission yesterday. There are two filters, a sump (pick up) filter the likes of which is on pretty much every automatic transmission ever built, and a screw on canister filter for the cooler return. Both of these filters are inside the (drain plug less) pan. Which is a marvel in itself that after half a century or more of automatic transmissions they still don't have a drain plug. If they would have simply relocated the cannister filter to the outside of the transmission anywhere along the cooling path, there would for the most part be no reason to ever open that transmission unless it broke. Maybe once in its life conduct a suck me fuck me fluid change, although with full synthetic fluid even that may not be necessary? All that being said, compact vehicles with transverse mounted engines are almost if not as bad as a fucking van to work on for all the reasons the OP mentioned. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 10:12:44 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lol, Ram trucks are really pretty easy to work on, but... I serviced my transmission yesterday. There are two filters, a sump (pick up) filter the likes of which is on pretty much every automatic transmission ever built, and a screw on canister filter for the cooler return. Both of these filters are inside the (drain plug less) pan. Which is a marvel in itself that after half a century or more of automatic transmissions they still don't have a drain plug. If they would have simply relocated the cannister filter to the outside of the transmission anywhere along the cooling path, there would for the most part be no reason to ever open that transmission unless it broke. Maybe once in its life conduct a suck me fuck me fluid change, although with full synthetic fluid even that may not be necessary? All that being said, compact vehicles with transverse mounted engines are almost if not as bad as a fucking van to work on for all the reasons the OP mentioned. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 10:14:19 AM EDT
[#12]
Op, this is why in every single thread about "should I buy this new or used whiz bang car" you will always see me recommend certain (usually the same) vehicles for people to purchase and/or stay away from due to ease and simplicity of maintenance. Sadly a Ford Escape is not on that list as you've found out with a minor minor repair.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 10:17:34 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Op, this is why in every single thread about "should I buy this new or used whiz bang car" you will always see me recommend certain (usually the same) vehicles for people to purchase and/or stay away from due to ease and simplicity of maintenance. Sadly a Ford Escape is not on that list as you've found out with a minor minor repair. You don’t make recommendations you merely play up the usual fanboy bit. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 11:10:03 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Tell your daughter to watch this simple step by step video which did not require any of that. She can do it herself. https://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2013_Ford_Escape_SE_1.6L_4_Cyl._Turbo/lights/parking_light |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 11:10:16 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Tell your daughter to watch this simple step by step video which did not require any of that. She can do it herself. https://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2013_Ford_Escape_SE_1.6L_4_Cyl._Turbo/lights/parking_light |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 11:10:38 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Tell your daughter to watch this simple step by step video which did not require any of that. She can do it herself. https://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2013_Ford_Escape_SE_1.6L_4_Cyl._Turbo/lights/parking_light eta shit triple tap |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 11:36:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
And yet you lose all credibility on this matter constantly recommending a vehicle that half the engine is under the dash with no handy dandy doghouse like a van. You don’t make recommendations you merely play up the usual fanboy bit. Just for you........ 
Oh and FYI incase you missed it, you'll want to document my comments for your log over in the Buick Lucerne thread where I recommended the Op to go with a GASP!!! Crown Vic Ford product!!! "Oh noes he didn't say to get a GM, how can this be!!!!" 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 11:49:42 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Jesus Christ dude, do you have a white board with people's screen names and your manufactured beef or bullshit that you have with them written on it so you can make sure you never forget and can always bring up these "important" facts you hold so dear? Sad man really sad. I pity you, I really do. But hey if it brightens your day I'm glad to help. Just for you........ https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/attachments/track-kill-stories-15/24375d1501311255-lt1-vs-ls1-race-ls1god.jpg Oh and FYI incase you missed it, you'll want to document my comments for your log over in the Buick Lucerne thread where I recommended the Op to go with a GASP!!! Crown Vic Ford product!!! "Oh noes he didn't say to get a GM, how can this be!!!!" I will be able to let it rest then. ETA I’m actually with you on LS engines. AFTER they’ve been yanked out of a dead pickup or POS f-body and placed into a good chassis LIKE A MUSTANG |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 11:55:32 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just want to see you admit just once that while YES they are faster than stink on poop (I’ll give you that) that fourth gen f-bodies are pieces of garbage in every other respect. From wrenching standpoint to quality of interiors to just generally being a squeaky rattle trap with typical 1990’s GM build quality or rather lack thereof I will be able to let it rest then. ETA I’m actually with you on LS engines. AFTER they’ve been yanked out of a dead pickup or POS f-body and placed into a good chassis LIKE A MUSTANG My fbody is still alive and kicking way after I sold it. Well over 200k original miles, original bottom end and it's been sprayed and boosted to death. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 12:29:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just a spin on canister filter like even my zero turn has [actually has two, one for each hydro] is all they need along with a DIPSTICK/FILL TUBE you FVCKING RETARD MANUFACTURERS AND ENGINEER TARDS!!! [yes, I really do hate those smarmy assholes that much for deleting the transmission dipstick and fill tube] Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Lol, Ram trucks are really pretty easy to work on, but... I serviced my transmission yesterday. There are two filters, a sump (pick up) filter the likes of which is on pretty much every automatic transmission ever built, and a screw on canister filter for the cooler return. Both of these filters are inside the (drain plug less) pan. Which is a marvel in itself that after half a century or more of automatic transmissions they still don't have a drain plug. If they would have simply relocated the cannister filter to the outside of the transmission anywhere along the cooling path, there would for the most part be no reason to ever open that transmission unless it broke. Maybe once in its life conduct a suck me fuck me fluid change, although with full synthetic fluid even that may not be necessary? All that being said, compact vehicles with transverse mounted engines are almost if not as bad as a fucking van to work on for all the reasons the OP mentioned. I had a '91 VW Passat (that ended my love affair with VW) that had a spin on canister filter on the transmission. It was on top of the transmission so when you took it off it emptied on top of the transmission. VW's answer to this engineering marvel was to not make a replacement filter. That's right, no replacement filter. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 12:29:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just want to see you admit just once that while YES they are faster than stink on poop (I’ll give you that) that fourth gen f-bodies are pieces of garbage in every other respect. From wrenching standpoint to quality of interiors to just generally being a squeaky rattle trap with typical 1990’s GM build quality or rather lack thereof I will be able to let it rest then. ETA I’m actually with you on LS engines. AFTER they’ve been yanked out of a dead pickup or POS f-body and placed into a good chassis LIKE A MUSTANG Griggs appreciates your continuous support |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 12:40:51 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Tell your daughter to watch this simple step by step video which did not require any of that. She can do it herself. https://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2013_Ford_Escape_SE_1.6L_4_Cyl._Turbo/lights/parking_light |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 12:42:58 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ram still has a dipstick, are you referring to Toyota? I had a '91 VW Passat (that ended my love affair with VW) that had a spin on canister filter on the transmission. It was on top of the transmission so when you took it off it emptied on top of the transmission. VW's answer to this engineering marvel was to not make a replacement filter. That's right, no replacement filter. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 5:42:37 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just want to see you admit just once that while YES they are faster than stink on poop (I’ll give you that) that fourth gen f-bodies are pieces of garbage in every other respect. From wrenching standpoint to quality of interiors to just generally being a squeaky rattle trap with typical 1990’s GM build quality or rather lack thereof I will be able to let it rest then. ETA I’m actually with you on LS engines. AFTER they’ve been yanked out of a dead pickup or POS f-body and placed into a good chassis LIKE A MUSTANG |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 6:11:54 PM EDT
[#25]
Op, I'll do you one better. On my wife's car I'm about to change spark plugs on, you have to pull the intake manifold. 2013 Nissan cube.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 6:37:42 PM EDT
[#26]
just bust out the lense and change the bulb from the front, easy access next time...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 6:44:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Manufacturers have discovered that there is far more money in maintenance than vehicle sales. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/8/2017 10:49:42 PM EDT
[#28]
You think thats bad, you'll love the ones where you have to remove the bumper cover(basically the bumper) to change the headlights.
its the governments fault why do you think all cars look the same now. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/10/2017 9:48:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
LOL I never said they were Lexus/BMW quality. I said they were cheap performance just like a mustang. Sure they fall apart (3rd gen more so than 4th) but that is 90% due to owner neglect and not staying on top of easy easy maintenance. I've owned 4 of them and put at least 80K on each one and they looked showroom new inside and out the day I sold them because I took care of them. My point on them was more so they are cheap, easy to work on, and again cheap to own. We good now? ;)
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/10/2017 6:26:13 PM EDT
[#30]
I always go to YT first...if it's been done, it's there.
Youtube "how to remove drivers door panel from a 2nd gen Tacoma" 
Wife asked me why I had to watch the vid 12 times to get it right... Yup...she's still there  How to remove door panels Toyota Tacoma X-runner Access cab & Double Cab |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/10/2017 11:32:37 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I always go to YT first...if it's been done, it's there. Youtube "how to remove drivers door panel from a 2nd gen Tacoma"
Wife asked me why I had to watch the vid 12 times to get it right... Yup...she's still there  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhYKzE_yBg
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/11/2017 12:59:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That bitch is FINE! 
Well, from YT 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/11/2017 2:45:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
LOL I never said they were Lexus/BMW quality. I said they were cheap performance just like a mustang. Sure they fall apart (3rd gen more so than 4th) but that is 90% due to owner neglect and not staying on top of easy easy maintenance. I've owned 4 of them and put at least 80K on each one and they looked showroom new inside and out the day I sold them because I took care of them. My point on them was more so they are cheap, easy to work on, and again cheap to own. We good now? ;) |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/12/2017 7:40:03 AM EDT
[#34]
I'm not sure if I should respond to the original question, or the other direction this thread has veered into.
When I'm trying to add a new (to me) vehicle to my stable, I always look it over from the standpoint of "Well I'm the one who is going to be fixing this thing, so let's see how bad it would suck to replace common failure items." I have decided not to purchase vehicles because of this. I also traded in a perfectly fine vehicle because it had proven to be a total pain to work on in every possible way. I'm guessing most people don't look at things from that standpoint, though. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
