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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:53:24 PM EDT
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As the Pani was full retard, this thing should be beyond insane. |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 6:00:54 PM EDT
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I'm digging it. |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:03:09 PM EDT
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your talking mechanics. Im talking looks..the front end looks like very other super bike out there. mechanically, its a total different animal. Im a big duc fan, have owned 3 (900 SL, M900, 916) I went 748, 916, Monster myself. I was trying to get the pressure off my back and wrists as I got older but even the monsters were too aggressive for me. Not to mention, the vibrations are actually what was bothering me. It didn't matter the bike brand. |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:18:06 PM EDT
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lol I look like that on every bike I ride |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 7:50:24 AM EDT
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Quote Historyyes please, in matte black just like that. 
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Posted: 9/29/2017 11:45:49 PM EDT
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yes please, in matte black just like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
yes please, in matte black just like that. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 3:48:08 PM EDT
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I know it may be sacrilege, but I'm thinking a dark blue would look good. 
Red or black. 
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Posted: 9/30/2017 8:43:28 PM EDT
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Red or black. 
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Posted: 9/30/2017 10:13:15 PM EDT
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Intruiging. I thought the R1M would be easier to push than the Panigale. Brakes are too much in the Duc though. They are by far the strongest brakes I have ever used on a bike, ever. The problem is they bite hard in the initial stroke and you bottom the forks before you even have enough finger pressure to modulate them. Maybe I'd get used to them, but I didn't care for them much in the twenty miles of twisties we did. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 5:35:40 PM EDT
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I think it looks pretty good. Stands out from the garden variety red & black Italian sportery: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7e/2c/e3/7e2ce3782bb858fccf12dafddc710e36.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b9/9b/75/b99b7514466d479951ce7df8c0e897ed.jpg http://www.daidegasforum.com/images2/234/ducati-1199-panigale-red-bull-scarico-termignoni-special.jpg http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz288/beatndowndablock/Panigale%20Photos/20140323_102729_zpskdinxfpu.jpg |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 5:13:42 AM EDT
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Comparison to outgoing 1299:
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Posted: 10/9/2017 2:38:33 PM EDT
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRNq5YT_r38[/youtube]
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Posted: 10/9/2017 2:40:57 PM EDT
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Nov 5th right?
I really really want a 1299s but Im waiting to see what this bike has to offer. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:02:05 PM EDT
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Nov 5th right? I really really want a 1299s but Im waiting to see what this bike has to offer. |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 12:56:09 PM EDT
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Hope to check it out up close at Javits
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Posted: 10/11/2017 1:16:16 PM EDT
[#16]
So....
Beyond the single sided swing arm (which is awesome) and the name brand recognition, what does this have over an RSV4? I get that people want Ducati because.... Ducati. There's nothing wrong with that. It's why so many ADV riders want a BMW. I'm trying to figure out if they just did this because their Italian competition has one that is awesome, or if they did it because they thought it was better and found ways to improve upon it. |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 2:18:48 PM EDT
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Seems to me that Ducati had gone as far as they could go with the V-twin, and that the V-4 offered a number of benefits including a higher rev ceiling.
Just a hunch. |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 7:22:53 PM EDT
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So.... Beyond the single sided swing arm (which is awesome) and the name brand recognition, what does this have over an RSV4? I get that people want Ducati because.... Ducati. There's nothing wrong with that. It's why so many ADV riders want a BMW. I'm trying to figure out if they just did this because their Italian competition has one that is awesome, or if they did it because they thought it was better and found ways to improve upon it. It also has a semi-wet crank case and knife-edge crank to effectively eliminate wet sumping at high RPM. The Aprillia has a wet-sump crank case and thick pork-chopped crank. Ducati is at the upper limit of performance with the 1199R, which is the largest displacement allowed in WorldSBK (1200cc for V-Twin) and many other Superbike championships, so the 1299 can never be run in any notable championship. They had to come up with a design that could allow more power with less displacement, and adopted the same approach they took in MotoGP (1000cc V4 for the upcoming 2019 R-spec model). The street version will be slightly larger for extra around-town torque. The single-sided swing arm will hopefully go away for the R version next year as the SBK effort wants a lighter, more torsionally rigid rear fork - something they cannot achieve with the current heavy single-sided part. -k |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 10:31:12 PM EDT
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The new Stradale has a balanced counter-rotating crankshaft (no need for a counter-rotating balancing shaft, as with the RSV4), 90° V4 desmodromic (positively opened/closed) valve train engine with light weight cases (magnesium and aluminum) and variable length intake runners. The Aprillia is 65° and thus requires the balancing shaft (adding additional weight and the gyroscopic effect of the forward rotating crankshaft inertia is more difficult to overcome when turning at speed). It also has a semi-wet crank case and knife-edge crank to effectively eliminate wet sumping at high RPM. The Aprillia has a wet-sump crank case and thick pork-chopped crank. Ducati is at the upper limit of performance with the 1199R, which is the largest displacement allowed in WorldSBK (1200cc for V-Twin) and many other Superbike championships, so the 1299 can never be run in any notable championship. They had to come up with a design that could allow more power with less displacement, and adopted the same approach they took in MotoGP (1000cc V4 for the upcoming 2019 R-spec model). The street version will be slightly larger for extra around-town torque. The single-sided swing arm will hopefully go away for the R version next year as the SBK effort wants a lighter, more torsionally rigid rear fork - something they cannot achieve with the current heavy single-sided part. -k |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 11:00:15 PM EDT
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If the SS swinger goes, the underbelly exhaust will go with it. Styling wise, it won't be as clean. Will be interesting to see how far the R model departs from the others. It would be a more radical break from the pattern if it's markedly different from the street models. -k |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 8:19:34 AM EDT
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is it out yet? patiently waiting...
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Posted: 11/5/2017 8:47:04 PM EDT
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Looks good. Do want.
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Posted: 11/5/2017 8:51:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2017 2:31:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2017 2:43:55 AM EDT
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I need the monster that they stuff this mill into.
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Posted: 11/6/2017 10:49:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Good lord, I'd rock that fucking thing
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Posted: 11/6/2017 11:02:04 PM EDT
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Sounds perfect. Sound alone makes me want to buy one because it is marshmallow ugly. I like the tail but the rest is yuck.
Edit: maybe it will look better in person. |
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Posted: 11/7/2017 12:07:19 AM EDT
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The tail section sucks.
For a race bike, OK. I want a tail section that can house the lights, turn signal, under fender and keep the water off of me. I am not a big fan of the detachable rear fender. That's just me. Other than that it looks awesome! |
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Posted: 11/7/2017 1:39:34 AM EDT
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Sounds perfect. Sound alone makes me want to buy one because it is marshmallow ugly. I like the tail but the rest is yuck. Edit: maybe it will look better in person.
Beauty, eh. 
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Posted: 11/7/2017 5:08:21 PM EDT
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So.... Beyond the single sided swing arm (which is awesome) and the name brand recognition, what does this have over an RSV4? 
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Posted: 11/7/2017 5:38:01 PM EDT
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The new Priller has winglets! Wingletsssssss! https://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Aprilia-RSV4-R-FW-GP-winglet-02.jpg?ssl=1 |
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Posted: 11/7/2017 5:38:54 PM EDT
[#32]
price?
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Posted: 11/7/2017 7:44:08 PM EDT
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price? |
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Posted: 11/7/2017 7:44:26 PM EDT
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The new Priller has winglets! Wingletsssssss! https://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Aprilia-RSV4-R-FW-GP-winglet-02.jpg?ssl=1 |
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Posted: 11/7/2017 10:13:06 PM EDT
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No way!?!? 
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Posted: 11/8/2017 5:54:42 AM EDT
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Wild guess... 20k base, $25k S, $30k special Quote HistoryQuoted:
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price? |
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Posted: 11/8/2017 12:13:39 PM EDT
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I have a problem keeping the front wheel on the ground, but I don't think those winglets would help much
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Posted: 11/8/2017 12:14:16 PM EDT
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The going rate for 2 wheeled Ferraris: $25K (base), $31K (S) & $46K (Speciale).
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Posted: 11/8/2017 5:52:09 PM EDT
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The Speciale graphics are the way to go. In a year or 2, there will be aftermarket plastics & tank covers in that scheme, with different colors even, just like the V2 Pani. http://i68.tinypic.com/2wohdf5.jpg Beauty, eh. http://www.bikesportnews.com/uploads/news_images/Panigale-V4-Special-Red-MY18-01-Book-testride-630x390.png Really hoping it's one of those looks better in the flesh deals. |
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Posted: 11/8/2017 9:05:38 PM EDT
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Well guess I’ll be finding a used one Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The going rate for 2 wheeled Ferraris: $25K (base), $31K (S) & $46K (Speciale). Also, bikes depreciate, & Ducs tend to be bought by more mature owners who take care of their toys. |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 1:50:52 AM EDT
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Spent the last week riding the wife's Panigale while my BMW was getting maintenance. I may have to track one of these down!
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Posted: 11/9/2017 9:09:02 AM EDT
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Not a bad plan. I'd wait at least a yr even if i wanted a new one, just to let the early adopters discover the bugs. Ducs don't have the same reliability as the big 4 bikes. The PV2 was a leap compared to previous gen, but it still had issues, but I have higher hopes for this V4 engine. Also, bikes depreciate, & Ducs tend to be bought by more mature owners who take care of their toys. its completely unpractical for my life anymore, but i cant seem to get the want to go away
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Posted: 11/9/2017 9:26:39 PM EDT
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i had an 081 1098s. sold it when the 2nd child was born and ive been itching for 3+ yrs now. its completely unpractical for my life anymore, but i cant seem to get the want to go away Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a bad plan. I'd wait at least a yr even if i wanted a new one, just to let the early adopters discover the bugs. Ducs don't have the same reliability as the big 4 bikes. The PV2 was a leap compared to previous gen, but it still had issues, but I have higher hopes for this V4 engine. Also, bikes depreciate, & Ducs tend to be bought by more mature owners who take care of their toys. its completely unpractical for my life anymore, but i cant seem to get the want to go away |
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Posted: 11/10/2017 9:09:39 AM EDT
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I hear ya. Frankly, I could have just as much fun with less risk in a SxS, tooling around my property & on the state ORV park near by, not to mention taking it out when I'm shooting at a local logging trail. Can't shake my love of racing machines, though. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 7:39:52 PM EDT
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Can someone explain to me (using small words) what is the advantage using the "reverse crankshaft", please?
BMW rider here. K1300GT, 160hp. 
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:11:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2017 9:02:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wonder if the BMW boxer style engine or a V-twin makes a difference on rotation? I'm guessing not, but I'm not an engineer. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 10:21:43 AM EDT
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BTW, nice K bike
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