Posted: 9/12/2015 9:37:34 PM EDT
Got a chance to run my sportster on a dyno today. Slip ons, kuryakyn hypercharger (don't recommend), and I changed the pilot jet.
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2007 Triumph Scrambler http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/jfg_4/bike/scrambler/649696c0-0c38-43e9-a8ad-9ead85592acd_zpsy1n6t3dl.jpg Does that say "factory off road" for exhaust? |
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2007 Triumph Scrambler http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/jfg_4/bike/scrambler/649696c0-0c38-43e9-a8ad-9ead85592acd_zpsy1n6t3dl.jpg Does that say "factory off road" for exhaust? Yeah... I put the off-road mufflers on it. I took the air box out and put on pod filters and then had these guys tune it. 
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Had a guy pull close to that on a stock vrod today, I'm starting to warm up to them lol |
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No need to justify it with the weight, one of the best riders I know pulled similar numbers on a dressed out Honda and he's never had an issue keeping up in a pack. If you can ride the numbers don't matter. |
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I miss having my bikes. XB12X http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/fec5300c.jpg After some work done on it http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/3d7551f1.jpg What did you do to it, and what was wrong with the idle (manifold leak or just a little off on the tune)? Sorry for the post string, too much of a pain in the ass to open multiple windows on a phone lol |
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Quoted: Had a guy pull close to that on a stock vrod today, I'm starting to warm up to them lol Quoted: Had a guy pull close to that on a stock vrod today, I'm starting to warm up to them lol I've since added HD SE Stage 2 camshafts and a power vision. That guy sold that mobile dyno so I can't run it on his again, and there's really no point making pulls on a different dyno I won't know what I gained. I did run 11.58 in the 1/4 before the cams though, I need to go back. |
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Nice! That was pipe/drop in filter/bullshit fuelpak. I've since added HD SE Stage 2 camshafts and a power vision. That guy sold that mobile dyno so I can't run it on his again, and there's really no point making pulls on a different dyno I won't know what I gained. I did run 11.58 in the 1/4 before the cams though, I need to go back. Quoted:
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Had a guy pull close to that on a stock vrod today, I'm starting to warm up to them lol I've since added HD SE Stage 2 camshafts and a power vision. That guy sold that mobile dyno so I can't run it on his again, and there's really no point making pulls on a different dyno I won't know what I gained. I did run 11.58 in the 1/4 before the cams though, I need to go back. I'd be interested to see what they will do with a stage 1 & camshaft and headwork |
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Quoted: My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Is that your only dyno chart? I only ask because your curve looks a bit....weird.... Do you have a power commander and the tuning software? Might need to tweak a few settings in there to smooth things out some. |
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Is that your only dyno chart? I only ask because your curve looks a bit....weird.... Do you have a power commander and the tuning software? Might need to tweak a few settings in there to smooth things out some. Quoted:
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My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Is that your only dyno chart? I only ask because your curve looks a bit....weird.... Do you have a power commander and the tuning software? Might need to tweak a few settings in there to smooth things out some. The red was weird/untuned, the blue is tuned. -k |
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What did you do to it, and what was wrong with the idle (manifold leak or just a little off on the tune)? Sorry for the post string, too much of a pain in the ass to open multiple windows on a phone lol Quoted:
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I miss having my bikes. XB12X http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/fec5300c.jpg After some work done on it http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/3d7551f1.jpg What did you do to it, and what was wrong with the idle (manifold leak or just a little off on the tune)? Sorry for the post string, too much of a pain in the ass to open multiple windows on a phone lol Basic intake exhaust and programming. Used a few different profiles until found one I liked. |
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My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? |
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Quoted: Mods? Quoted: Quoted: My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. |
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If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. Quoted:
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My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. I'm thinking about the hammer 1250 for my bike over the winter, yea it's only 50cc's, but the cam and heads it comes with make up for it, then changing my filter for a grown up filter, some straight pipes, and a mikuni I should have a hot rod edit-just looked at the website and they don't have a cam option...could have swore it did... |
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If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. Quoted:
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My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. Pretty close, I have SE 575 cams. The dyno tune was done by Mike Stegman, who has a pretty sterling rep & Dan Baisley contributed to the build as well. Aaron at Hammer Performance looked over the sheet and said it looked pretty damned good to him... ETA: and the bike runs flawlessly. This is it w/specs: 
490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast. -k |
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Pretty close, I have SE 575 cams. The dyno tune was done by Mike Stegman, who has a pretty sterling rep & Dan Baisley contributed to the build as well. Aaron at Hammer Performance looked over the sheet and said it looked pretty damned good to him... ETA: and the bike runs flawlessly. This is it w/specs: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/iron-2-14-15-1_zpsa05aa1d6.jpg 490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast. -k Quoted:
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My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. Pretty close, I have SE 575 cams. The dyno tune was done by Mike Stegman, who has a pretty sterling rep & Dan Baisley contributed to the build as well. Aaron at Hammer Performance looked over the sheet and said it looked pretty damned good to him... ETA: and the bike runs flawlessly. This is it w/specs: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/iron-2-14-15-1_zpsa05aa1d6.jpg 490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast. -k Hotter than BOTD...I'll be in my bunk |
I wish I would have run my VTX on he dyno before it was beat to shit and burning oil like a 2 stroke. I have a old ass power commander(serial port ) that I never installed and power commander told me I could send it in and they would give me a discount on a new one.
Bike is to the point where I am not sure it's worth fixing but it's tempting. |
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Quoted: Pretty close, I have SE 575 cams. The dyno tune was done by Mike Stegman, who has a pretty sterling rep & Dan Baisley contributed to the build as well. Aaron at Hammer Performance looked over the sheet and said it looked pretty damned good to him... ETA: and the bike runs flawlessly. This is it w/specs: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/iron-2-14-15-1_zpsa05aa1d6.jpg 490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast. -k Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. Pretty close, I have SE 575 cams. The dyno tune was done by Mike Stegman, who has a pretty sterling rep & Dan Baisley contributed to the build as well. Aaron at Hammer Performance looked over the sheet and said it looked pretty damned good to him... ETA: and the bike runs flawlessly. This is it w/specs: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/iron-2-14-15-1_zpsa05aa1d6.jpg 490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast. -k Did you have a build thread on XLForum? Your bike looks really familiar. I'm thinking it could be the cams just causing that slight blip. Either way if Aaron, Mike, and Don said it's good I'd trust their word on it! |
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Quoted: I'm thinking about the hammer 1250 for my bike over the winter, yea it's only 50cc's, but the cam and heads it comes with make up for it, then changing my filter for a grown up filter, some straight pipes, and a mikuni I should have a hot rod edit-just looked at the website and they don't have a cam option...could have swore it did... They do. http://www.1250kits.com/xlvalvetrain.shtml I'd skip the straight pipes and go with a 2-1. If the 2-1 look isn't for you, then go with V&H Side Shots, they've got a hidden crossover |
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I'm thinking about the hammer 1250 for my bike over the winter, yea it's only 50cc's, but the cam and heads it comes with make up for it, then changing my filter for a grown up filter, some straight pipes, and a mikuni I should have a hot rod edit-just looked at the website and they don't have a cam option...could have swore it did... They do. http://www.1250kits.com/xlvalvetrain.shtml I'd skip the straight pipes and go with a 2-1. If the 2-1 look isn't for you, then go with V&H Side Shots, they've got a hidden crossover I'll have to check them out, I originally wanted 2-1 but they were all bulky and I was afraid I'd be scraping them every time I took a curve to the right. |
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My Sportster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/hammer-dyno_zpsdb60780c.jpg Haven't dyno'd the other bikes. -k Mods? If I had to guess..... Hammer 1250 kit with reverse domed pistons, Impact 560 cams, new pushrods, smash head porting job with larger valves, ported manifold (maybe?), a big element type air cleaner (pretty much a requirement at this point, and a good 2-1 exhaust. Kinaed, there's still something funky going on right at the top end of your bike's run. That spike towards the top of the blue line shouldn't be there. Could be the tune, combo of the parts, or the guy running the dyno goofed. Pretty close, I have SE 575 cams. The dyno tune was done by Mike Stegman, who has a pretty sterling rep & Dan Baisley contributed to the build as well. Aaron at Hammer Performance looked over the sheet and said it looked pretty damned good to him... ETA: and the bike runs flawlessly. This is it w/specs: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/kinaed/iron-2-14-15-1_zpsa05aa1d6.jpg 490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast. -k Did you have a build thread on XLForum? Your bike looks really familiar. I'm thinking it could be the cams just causing that slight blip. Either way if Aaron, Mike, and Don said it's good I'd trust their word on it! Yep, I do! -k |
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I'm thinking about the hammer 1250 for my bike over the winter, yea it's only 50cc's, but the cam and heads it comes with make up for it, then changing my filter for a grown up filter, some straight pipes, and a mikuni I should have a hot rod edit-just looked at the website and they don't have a cam option...could have swore it did... They do. http://www.1250kits.com/xlvalvetrain.shtml I'd skip the straight pipes and go with a 2-1. If the 2-1 look isn't for you, then go with V&H Side Shots, they've got a hidden crossover I'll have to check them out, I originally wanted 2-1 but they were all bulky and I was afraid I'd be scraping them every time I took a curve to the right. There are some that provide good clearance. If you are interested, I've got a set of side shots with quiet baffles that I can let go for a fair price. They are pre-scraped on the tips to ease the right-hand turning situation, but are in good condition otherwise... -k |
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And for the record a 100+ whp Sportster would be scary lol Sounds about right to me. Any longevity problems the jacked up sportsters?? |
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490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast.-k Just think if you dumped that money into a Hayabusa... 
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490lbs, 103HP/87TQ Hammer 1250/Smash Heads, 30° dome pistons, 10.75:1 CR, Air Hammer w/K&N A/C, SE .575 cams, Baisley ported intake manifold, STM slipper clutch/Müller Power Clutch, MPS Racing Quick Shifter with custom mount from Chainsikle, Drag Specialties alternator rotor w/34T sprocket, Drag Specialties ISO motor mounts, D&D Bobcat exhaust, custom Trac Dynamics aluminum swingarm, Chainsikle rearsets with custom mounts, Oberon foot pegs, custom 14" Ricor IAS shocks/Intiminators/RaceTech fork springs, custom GLIDE forged aluminum wheels, Avon Storm 3D XM ZR radials, XR1200 front caliper/floating rotor, Braking Wave XR1200 rear rotor, EarthX lithium battery, Burly Clubman bars, Rizoma Spirit bar end mirrors, HD Dual speedo/tach & ergo's - Bikini Fairing/Chin spoiler/Black Diamond grips/Brawler seat. Eats twinkies for breakfast.-k Just think if you dumped that money into a Hayabusa...
Then I'd have just another Hayabusa. I'm happy with my Sportster, Ducati and Daytona. Maybe a Panigale down the road, but never a Hayabusa. -k |
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I'm thinking about the hammer 1250 for my bike over the winter, yea it's only 50cc's, but the cam and heads it comes with make up for it, then changing my filter for a grown up filter, some straight pipes, and a mikuni I should have a hot rod edit-just looked at the website and they don't have a cam option...could have swore it did... They do. http://www.1250kits.com/xlvalvetrain.shtml I'd skip the straight pipes and go with a 2-1. If the 2-1 look isn't for you, then go with V&H Side Shots, they've got a hidden crossover I'll have to check them out, I originally wanted 2-1 but they were all bulky and I was afraid I'd be scraping them every time I took a curve to the right. There are some that provide good clearance. If you are interested, I've got a set of side shots with quiet baffles that I can let go for a fair price. They are pre-scraped on the tips to ease the right-hand turning situation, but are in good condition otherwise... -k IM sent...I swear I'm gonna paint "bankruptcy starter kit" on my tank |