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AR15.COM
2/25/2008 7:13:13 AM EDT
I'm thinking about getting in for some.

What are your thoughts?

All other card company stocks have gone 4-5 fold increase from IPO.




Edited, your right VISA not MC.
2/25/2008 7:26:14 AM EDT
[#1]
Its -->VISA, (same thought though) MC went public a while back(2-3yrs) and as you pointed out went straight to double in value w/in a yr and 1/2, IIRC.- I was not aware any other CC companies were public EXCEPT MC-DC -not Amex/. Things rarely happen twice like that. But who knows. VISA was supposed to go public last yr..Oct-Nov IIRC. Particularly with alot of folks just bailing on their debt obligations, hense the new bankruptcy laws. Maybe thats their reasoning to raise money with more stringent laws comming down the pipeline. Your call. Good Luck!
2/25/2008 7:43:02 AM EDT
[#2]
There will be a big leap and then huge profit taking on the first day.  Unless you're an insider or have some way of acquiring shares before the IPO I wouldn't try to jump in as soon as you can since you'll most likely be railroaded by insiders as they profit off of the first few days of activity.  Wait till the profit taking settles down and try to get a good position in
2/25/2008 5:39:09 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Particularly with alot of folks just bailing on their debt obligations, hense the new bankruptcy laws. Maybe thats their reasoning to raise money. Your call. Good Luck!


I doubt this has any impact on Visa.  They are the clearing house for transactions - they don't  actually loan out and collect any debts.

With more and more transactions going plastic, getting a small cut on every sale in the country wouldn't be a bad little business.  Of course, I haven't seen any of the projected financials either, but if you think the economy will have a downturn, then factor that into your decision.

2/25/2008 5:43:12 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I'm thinking about getting in for some.

What are your thoughts?

All other card company stocks have gone 4-5 fold increase from IPO.


Edited, your right VISA not MC.



You need to look at Discover, it is almost half of what it was on its first day.
2/25/2008 5:45:24 PM EDT
[#5]
The only time I've messed with IPOs was with Under Armor which I ended up taking a nice profit on.  IPOs and quick invenstments aren't really my style......but consider this a tag for other answers.
2/25/2008 8:51:38 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Particularly with alot of folks just bailing on their debt obligations, hense the new bankruptcy laws. Maybe thats their reasoning to raise money. Your call. Good Luck!


I doubt this has any impact on Visa.  They are the clearing house for transactions - they don't  actually loan out and collect any debts.

With more and more transactions going plastic, getting a small cut on every sale in the country wouldn't be a bad little business.  Of course, I haven't seen any of the projected financials either, but if you think the economy will have a downturn, then factor that into your decision.

O' Definately, even ,05% on every transaction would be a great business model. IIRC with some CC's its more like 2-3% which would be like a LT lottery hit! I do believe they are becoming a LOAN like company offering credit for goods(crap) being able to charge up to what 30-35% on a carried balances?, considering peoples FICO scores. *Usery* used to be charging more than 20% and they charged 19.99% .......now its not even a consideration with todays consumer population. Its the dumbing down of the USA consumer nation.... or progress.........U pic.Good Luck!
2/29/2008 12:26:40 AM EDT
[#7]
IMHO, Visa's one you want to hang onto for the long haul. I bet the IPO will be pretty overpriced though.
2/29/2008 7:42:45 PM EDT
[#8]
FWIW,, Cramer is recommending getting in on the Visa IPO.
3/3/2008 12:01:48 PM EDT
[#9]
VISA is brilliant.  They basically collect sales tax like the government, except it is voluntary.  And goes right into their wallets, instead of cheesy handouts/entitlements.  Damn good idea.
3/9/2008 6:34:14 PM EDT
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What are your thoughts?


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ar-jedi
3/10/2008 8:34:33 PM EDT
[#11]
I put in for some with my broker, but the odds of getting any are less than 50% and the paperwork for IPO investing has to be on file, etc. before you can "participate".

IPO's are allotted according to a ranking system that includes the number of IPO's that you participate in, your average investment in them, etc. and it makes it difficult for the average person to get any shares of an attactive IPO.

As stated earlier, VISA just skims a fee off of every transaction as a service provider, they do not lend money to cardholders.

If it does 1/2 as good as MC did, I would be happy.  MC came out at $ 39.00 in May of 2006 and trades today at $ 191.50 with a 52 week high of $227.18.

The initial price of VISA is already set to be within a range of $37-42 per share.

3/10/2008 9:36:07 PM EDT
[#12]
I dont feel like looking up when they are commin gout. So when is the planned IPO?
3/10/2008 9:46:21 PM EDT
[#13]
It is listed as "the week of March 17th", so it should be next week.