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3/5/2007 7:19:00 AM EDT
I called up my mortgage co. because I want the PIMI removed from my account. They want to require me to have an appraisal from one of their companies ($400.00) . Is there any way I can force them to just drop it , they know just how much I’m being assessed in property taxes & it’s well below the exposure limit ( .80 on the dollar) Any help appreciated.


3/5/2007 8:08:36 AM EDT
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I called up my mortgage co. because I want the PIMI removed from my account. They want to require me to have an appraisal from one of their companies ($400.00) . Is there any way I can force them to just drop it , they know just how much I’m being assessed in property taxes & it’s well above the exposure limit ( .80 on the dollar) Any help appreciated.



Unless you get to 15-20% equity, you won't be able to drop the PMI.  You can do that by either paying off 20% of the loan or you have to have the appraisal done.

I don't know of any other way.

3/5/2007 8:14:37 AM EDT
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Sorry worded that wrong, I'm well below the exposure %
3/5/2007 6:31:31 PM EDT
[#3]
1st/2nd mortgage combo?  That's the only other way I can think of.  HOw much is your PMI currently?
3/6/2007 3:55:43 AM EDT
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1st. mortgage, about $50.00 mo.
3/14/2007 8:09:44 AM EDT
[#5]
The only way they can be "forced" to drop it,is for your principle to reach somewhere in the 22% paid range,leaving 78% unpaid. Most mortgage companies don't automatically reevaluate and drop it at 20%/80%.
I just paid for the appraisal ($350-400) and won my case. Since my PMI was higher,I recouped my apraisal cost in something like 6 months. Not bad for a 3 year old house.
3/14/2007 4:51:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Looks like I'm stuck paying for it, Thanks !!!
3/14/2007 5:43:52 PM EDT
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A VA loan or an FHA loan will allow you to avoid PMI too.
3/15/2007 5:42:58 AM EDT
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Looks like I'm stuck paying for it, Thanks !!!


Stuck paying for the PMI, or stuck paying the $400 for the appraisal?
3/15/2007 5:45:05 AM EDT
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It's weird.  My lender basically told me.... "nobody pays PMI anymore" and set me up with a ton of loan options... 80/20/0, 80/15/5, and a new kind of 95/5 loan where they cover the PMI.  Mathematically speaking, the best deal was the 80/15/5 for my loan, so that is what I went with.
3/15/2007 5:54:11 AM EDT
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A VA loan or an FHA loan will allow you to avoid PMI too.


Yeah, but on FHA loans you pay a PMI like insurance premium at closing.  Least I did long time ago on my first house loan
3/15/2007 10:12:18 AM EDT
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A VA loan or an FHA loan will allow you to avoid PMI too.


Yeah, but on FHA loans you pay a PMI like insurance premium at closing.  Least I did long time ago on my first house loan



You may well be right.  I don't know much about FHA.
3/16/2007 1:30:28 PM EDT
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FHA uses MMA (Mutual Mortgage Insurance) for the name of theor flavor of mortgage insurance.
There are Federal Rules about dropping PMI if Freddy owns the note.
3/19/2007 10:53:31 AM EDT
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It's weird.  My lender basically told me.... "nobody pays PMI anymore" and set me up with a ton of loan options... 80/20/0, 80/15/5, and a new kind of 95/5 loan where they cover the PMI.  Mathematically speaking, the best deal was the 80/15/5 for my loan, so that is what I went with.

True,no one has to pay PMI anymore, but they pay a higher interest rate for that 2nd loan that avoids the PMI. Over the length of the loan, I would have paid tens of thousands of dollars in extra interest from that higher rate,vs the single lower rate that I took,which came with PMI. I paid maybe $2400 in PMI before I got rid of it. Since rates aren't likely to drop below the very low 30yr rate I have now,I believe I made the right decision.

3/19/2007 5:11:39 PM EDT
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Looks like I'm stuck paying for it, Thanks !!!


Stuck paying for the PMI, or stuck paying the $400 for the appraisal?


The appraisal, we're a single income family of 4 so things like that we feel.
3/21/2007 3:13:30 PM EDT
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When you do an 80/20 the rate is higher on the 20 portion, but you still need to factor in the tax break.
PMI is not deductable, second mortgage interest is.
If you get a 10 year second the payments are often pretty close to the PMI and you at least get to deduct them.