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12/21/2008 10:12:33 AM EDT
Wife decided to repaint the home office.  Booted down and moved the desktop yesterday.  Come today, the desktop keeps cutting off.  Have tried different outlets, power strips, and same result.  Sometimes it will let me boot all the way after logging in.  After a few minutes, it will just die.  It won't stay on long enough to run virus scan.

Sometimes, it will just die 30 seconds into bios check.  It's 50/50 so far on me letting me load Windows XP Pro 64bit till I get the desktop.  The power supply is 2 years old too.  Any help would be appreciatetd.

ETA:  Here's the power supply

ETA2:  Here's the motherboard
12/21/2008 10:14:54 AM EDT
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OK, did you spill a bunch of paint on it?
12/21/2008 10:16:21 AM EDT
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OK, did you spill a bunch of paint on it?


No paint.  Wish it was, would be an easy diagnosis.
12/21/2008 10:19:18 AM EDT
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OK, did you spill a bunch of paint on it?






No paint.  Wish it was, would be an easy diagnosis.
Kidding.  I've experienced about every friggin' computer problem known to man, man occurring for absolutely no reason.  This one I have not experienced but I am awaiting replies from others.  Unplug computer, move it, plug it back in, not working......can't imagine what happened.



Did the voltage switch get bumped?
 
12/21/2008 10:33:37 AM EDT
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OK, did you spill a bunch of paint on it?


No paint.  Wish it was, would be an easy diagnosis.
Kidding.  I've experienced about every friggin' computer problem known to man, man occurring for absolutely no reason.  This one I have not experienced but I am awaiting replies from others.  Unplug computer, move it, plug it back in, not working......can't imagine what happened.

Did the voltage switch get bumped?

 


Voltage still on 115.  Was able to boot it up in safe mode.  Tried it before in safe mode with networking, but after a few minutes, it died.  Doing safe mode without networking and running virus/antispy ware now.

ETA: Computer died again.  I'm leaning heavily toward power supply being bad now.
12/21/2008 10:38:29 AM EDT
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My vote would be power supply as well.
12/21/2008 10:41:22 AM EDT
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powersupply other motherboard IMO.


first switch out the PS>  if it still does it, i would say the board.

of course do all hardware  swapping, take it to a bare minimum, remove all peripherials, go to one stick of memory if you have multiple and see if it helps
12/21/2008 10:45:08 AM EDT
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powersupply other motherboard IMO.


first switch out the PS>  if it still does it, i would say the board.

of course do all hardware  swapping, take it to a bare minimum, remove all peripherials, go to one stick of memory if you have multiple and see if it helps


Guess I'll be ordering a power supply.  Time to browse newegg.
12/21/2008 10:50:42 AM EDT
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if possible take it somewhere and have it checked out.   i'd rather pay a 49 dollar diag fee than go buy parts that may not fix it
12/21/2008 11:01:58 AM EDT
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open the case and make sure nothing came loose when you moved it, like the video card, ram ect.
12/21/2008 11:10:13 AM EDT
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Also make sure the heat sink didn't come loose from the processor.
12/21/2008 11:12:02 AM EDT
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open the case and make sure nothing came loose when you moved it, like the video card, ram ect.


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reseat the cards and memory
Make sure the CPU cooler didn't get dislodged
12/21/2008 11:59:15 AM EDT
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My guess is probably overheating.

Second guess- power supply
12/21/2008 12:22:16 PM EDT
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Well, after messing with the power strip, damn computer has been running for 45 mins continuously.  Seems like the power strip got tripped somehow.  Thanks for all the input/help.
12/21/2008 12:25:19 PM EDT
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My guess is probably overheating.

Second guess- power supply


My system runs 31-33 deg C under load and overclocked.  Have 3 120mm intakes.  1 120mm and 1 200mm outtakes.    Turned out to be a tripped power strip.
12/21/2008 12:25:22 PM EDT
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well that is good to hear
12/21/2008 12:27:20 PM EDT
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"Have tried different outlets, power strips, and same result."

its gonna happen again if what you said is true
12/21/2008 1:21:35 PM EDT
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If it has a linksys wireless card try disabling it or removing it.
I just had the same sort of issue that drove me nuts. Just out of the blue the damn card started making the computer crash. It would run for a while sometimes as long as hours..others it would crash immediately. I went bananas trying to figure out what it was. I was chasing electrical issues as well. Testing the line frequency etc.
My only guess is that some auto update from windows caused some sort of conflict since the card worked for over a year.
I had to update the drivers from the chip mfg since linksys drivers are 3 years old. So far its been stable.
12/21/2008 3:37:39 PM EDT
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"Have tried different outlets, power strips, and same result."

its gonna happen again if what you said is true


You jinxed me!  It went down again.  Took the case apart.  The CPU fan had gotten loose.  Resecured it.  After 30 mins, it went down yet again.  Checking Speedfan, it was showing my CPU temperature as 50 C.

Looks like it will be heat related issues with the CPU.  I can see the CPU fan spinning.  It always ran around 31-33 deg C, and now it hovers between 49-50 deg C.  My CPU is  Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Allendale 1.8GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor. Using the stock cooling fan.  Link to CPU  Guess I need a better cpu fan.  Any recommendations?
12/21/2008 3:39:43 PM EDT
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If it has a linksys wireless card try disabling it or removing it.
I just had the same sort of issue that drove me nuts. Just out of the blue the damn card started making the computer crash. It would run for a while sometimes as long as hours..others it would crash immediately. I went bananas trying to figure out what it was. I was chasing electrical issues as well. Testing the line frequency etc.
My only guess is that some auto update from windows caused some sort of conflict since the card worked for over a year.
I had to update the drivers from the chip mfg since linksys drivers are 3 years old. So far its been stable.


Got the internet connection through ethernet cable connected to wireless router.  Good to know this though.
12/21/2008 3:46:27 PM EDT
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"Have tried different outlets, power strips, and same result."

its gonna happen again if what you said is true


You jinxed me!  It went down again.  Took the case apart.  The CPU fan had gotten loose.  Resecured it.  After 30 mins, it went down yet again.  Checking Speedfan, it was showing my CPU temperature as 50 C.

Looks like it will be heat related issues with the CPU.  I can see the CPU fan spinning.  It always ran around 31-33 deg C, and now it hovers between 49-50 deg C.  My CPU is  Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Allendale 1.8GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor. Using the stock cooling fan.  Link to CPU  Guess I need a better cpu fan.  Any recommendations?


www.coolerguys.com i have used them a few times. i always get the arctic freeze series
12/21/2008 3:53:21 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.
12/21/2008 3:56:54 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.
12/21/2008 3:59:57 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


silver artic5
12/21/2008 4:04:19 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


silver artic5


Thanks.  Heck, I might as well get a better CPU fan/heatsink too, since I'll have to pay shipping on the silver artic 5.  How's this CPU fan/heatsink?
12/21/2008 4:04:42 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


It's been so long since I had to replace any, I'm not a good person to ask.  I'm sure that some of the guys who work in the business will be along shortly to help you out.

I just put 2 and 2 together when you said that the CPU fan had come loose, and you saying that the paste is dried out just confirms it.  I'll bet you a beer that cleaning off the dried paste and replacing it fixes your problem.

12/21/2008 4:06:13 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


silver artic5


Thanks.  Heck, I might as well get a better CPU fan/heatsink too, since I'll have to pay shipping on the silver artic 5.  How's this CPU fan/heatsink?


thats a very good fan, but its going to be big so make sure you have room in your case. i had the same one on my old motherboard before i upgraded. you will like it.
12/21/2008 4:11:35 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


silver artic5


Thanks.  Heck, I might as well get a better CPU fan/heatsink too, since I'll have to pay shipping on the silver artic 5.  How's this CPU fan/heatsink?


thats a very good fan, but its going to be big so make sure you have room in your case. i had the same one on my old motherboard before i upgraded. you will like it.


Got an Antec Nine Hundred case.  Link to case.  Should be big enough?
12/21/2008 4:13:49 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


It's been so long since I had to replace any, I'm not a good person to ask.  I'm sure that some of the guys who work in the business will be along shortly to help you out.

I just put 2 and 2 together when you said that the CPU fan had come loose, and you saying that the paste is dried out just confirms it.  I'll bet you a beer that cleaning off the dried paste and replacing it fixes your problem.



That makes sense.  Any idea on how to clean off the dried paste?  Never had to do it before.  Only built my first PC in July 2007.
12/21/2008 4:27:23 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


It's been so long since I had to replace any, I'm not a good person to ask.  I'm sure that some of the guys who work in the business will be along shortly to help you out.

I just put 2 and 2 together when you said that the CPU fan had come loose, and you saying that the paste is dried out just confirms it.  I'll bet you a beer that cleaning off the dried paste and replacing it fixes your problem.



That makes sense.  Any idea on how to clean off the dried paste?  Never had to do it before.  Only built my first PC in July 2007.


I always used alcohol prep pads (isopropyl alcohol).  Use something lint free and avoid using water for obvious reasons, and be very gentle.  I've seen a commercial product for the purpose but I've never tried it.

12/22/2008 6:08:29 AM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


It's been so long since I had to replace any, I'm not a good person to ask.  I'm sure that some of the guys who work in the business will be along shortly to help you out.

I just put 2 and 2 together when you said that the CPU fan had come loose, and you saying that the paste is dried out just confirms it.  I'll bet you a beer that cleaning off the dried paste and replacing it fixes your problem.



That makes sense.  Any idea on how to clean off the dried paste?  Never had to do it before.  Only built my first PC in July 2007.


I use a razor blade last time

What is a good temp that a Athlon dual core should run at?  What would be like, the a "red zone" temp threshold to try and avoid?

is there a good free program to check temps within OS rather than BIOS?
12/22/2008 5:48:05 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


It's been so long since I had to replace any, I'm not a good person to ask.  I'm sure that some of the guys who work in the business will be along shortly to help you out.

I just put 2 and 2 together when you said that the CPU fan had come loose, and you saying that the paste is dried out just confirms it.  I'll bet you a beer that cleaning off the dried paste and replacing it fixes your problem.



That makes sense.  Any idea on how to clean off the dried paste?  Never had to do it before.  Only built my first PC in July 2007.


I use a razor blade last time

What is a good temp that a Athlon dual core should run at?  What would be like, the a "red zone" temp threshold to try and avoid?

is there a good free program to check temps within OS rather than BIOS?


I downloaded Core Temp.  Seems to be a good program for real time CPU temperatures.  The readings on Core Temp matched up with the ones on my BIOS system monitor.  I have no idea about Athlon dual core temps.  I'm an Intel man now.

Used alcohol prep pads.  Couldn't get no Artic Silver 5 locally.  Ended up getting some Artic Silver Ceramique thermal paste from the local computer shop.  Got my temp down 12 degree C so far.  So far going 2 hours since application and the temp is at 32-33 degree C right now.
12/22/2008 7:00:30 PM EDT
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Go for the cheap fix first.  Take the CPU fan off, clean up the surfaces and apply new CPU gel.


What's a good thermal paste to get?  The stock paste is all crusty/dried up looking now.


It's been so long since I had to replace any, I'm not a good person to ask.  I'm sure that some of the guys who work in the business will be along shortly to help you out.

I just put 2 and 2 together when you said that the CPU fan had come loose, and you saying that the paste is dried out just confirms it.  I'll bet you a beer that cleaning off the dried paste and replacing it fixes your problem.



That makes sense.  Any idea on how to clean off the dried paste?  Never had to do it before.  Only built my first PC in July 2007.


I use a razor blade last time

What is a good temp that a Athlon dual core should run at?  What would be like, the a "red zone" temp threshold to try and avoid?

is there a good free program to check temps within OS rather than BIOS?


I downloaded Core Temp.  Seems to be a good program for real time CPU temperatures.  The readings on Core Temp matched up with the ones on my BIOS system monitor.  I have no idea about Athlon dual core temps.  I'm an Intel man now.

Used alcohol prep pads.  Couldn't get no Artic Silver 5 locally.  Ended up getting some Artic Silver Ceramique thermal paste from the local computer shop.  Got my temp down 12 degree C so far.  So far going 2 hours since application and the temp is at 32-33 degree C right now.


Cool, I hope it stays up for you!  That's the first time I've ever said that to another guy, so be gentle.