Posted: 3/6/2016 7:33:18 PM EDT
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"We" have one of those hard drive backup thingies, with the 'Lyve" cloud storage, and it seems like every time SOMEONE decides it's time to back up, all other devices on the net lose their wifi connection. Not latency, the little signal strength icon shows an exclamation point.
Could this device, with it's Lyve software, be crashing the wifi for the rest? Could my laptop just think it's lost a connection because something else is gobbling the bandwidth? Router goes hog-wild whenever the backup is running. Wireless router is an OLD Linksys WRT54G. Connection is a T1. |
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most likely, the backup is hammering that t1 and the other computers on the network don't have any bandwidth to get out.
The wifi signal is probably still ok and the other users should still be able to access local network resources, but the ! is because windows can't contact anything outside of the network. You'd want to either restrict the network using of the backup software during the day time or find a different solution if it's disrupting other users' productivity. That old linksys could stand to be replaced, but the problem won't go away.. a new router may allow you to ratelimit/QoS down the backup traffic if you can't do it in the backup software itself.. you'd want to restrict it down to something like 1mb max if you still have to run the backup during the day and don't mind things running slowly for the other users. The internet will still work, but they'd be sharing about .4mb (with overhead removed) during the time the backup is running. if you don't need the cloud backup, you can disable that and just do the local to the external disk and call it good, no router replacement or qos/rate limiting settings necessary |
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Which solves nothing, because this is a bandwidth issue.  why wouldn't it solve it? he is saying someone backing up over wifi causes the router's wifi to crash. all i was posting was a dedicated wifi adapter and turn off the routers wifi.
also sounds like its a network attached storage that is where the data is getting backed up to. |
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why wouldn't it solve it? he is saying someone backing up over wifi causes the router's wifi to crash. all i was posting was a dedicated wifi adapter and turn off the routers wifi.
also sounds like its a network attached storage that is where the data is getting backed up to. Quoted:
why wouldn't it solve it? he is saying someone backing up over wifi causes the router's wifi to crash. all i was posting was a dedicated wifi adapter and turn off the routers wifi.
also sounds like its a network attached storage that is where the data is getting backed up to. That's not what the little yellow exclamation point means. It means that upstream communication is no longer working. He's hammering the 1.44mbps link. Quoted:
most likely, the backup is hammering that t1 and the other computers on the network don't have any bandwidth to get out. The wifi signal is probably still ok and the other users should still be able to access local network resources, but the ! is because windows can't contact anything outside of the network. |
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That's not what the little yellow exclamation point means. It means that upstream communication is no longer working. He's hammering the 1.44mbps link. Quoted:
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why wouldn't it solve it? he is saying someone backing up over wifi causes the router's wifi to crash. all i was posting was a dedicated wifi adapter and turn off the routers wifi.
also sounds like its a network attached storage that is where the data is getting backed up to. That's not what the little yellow exclamation point means. It means that upstream communication is no longer working. He's hammering the 1.44mbps link. Quoted:
most likely, the backup is hammering that t1 and the other computers on the network don't have any bandwidth to get out. The wifi signal is probably still ok and the other users should still be able to access local network resources, but the ! is because windows can't contact anything outside of the network. from OP - "We" have one of those hard drive backup thingies, with the 'Lyve" cloud storage... while true i googled "Lyve" cloud storage and it seems like its a NAS where its basically a hard drive on the local network. not touching the T1 internet connection. https://www.mylyve.com/products |
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... from OP - "We" have one of those hard drive backup thingies, with the 'Lyve" cloud storage... while true i googled "Lyve" cloud storage and it seems like its a NAS where its basically a hard drive on the local network. not touching the T1 internet connection. https://www.mylyve.com/products only way to be sure is to sniff that traffic when it's on... that's a pretty good indication from the op that it's pegging the circuit when it gets plugged in and a backup is initiated pointing to the device is the culprit, but, you never know till you whip out the sniffer or try and pull some traffic logs from another device, like the linksys router (which probably wont' hold anything useful, even a more modern consumer grade router most likely won't yield anything useful) all things equal i'd blame the lyve device without additional information/seeing logs... that's where i'd start at least for my investigation |
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1.44Mb is pretty easy to saturate. It's 1.5, but yes, it is easy to saturate. This cloud back thingtamajig is for thw ife, I can't stand it and don't use it. I don't really see a need to backup all my phone pics to some server that's gonna get cracked by a 13-year-old in Paducha and spewn all over the net. |
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while true i googled "Lyve" cloud storage and it seems like its a NAS where its basically a hard drive on the local network. not touching the T1 internet connection. Lyve has this "feature" that lets you access designated files from any device with the proper credentials through the interwebs. So she can look at her potato-cam pics from her ipotato. It is a NAS, but it also mirrors to some unknown cloud server, probably in North Korea. To me it reeks of poor security, but what do I know? |
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only way to be sure is to sniff that traffic when it's on Interestingly, I've shut down that IP when I get pissed; just a simple MAC filter and all of a sudden my net connectivity comes back. When I turn off the MAC filter it's back to hammer time. I think she's finally getting the message when she couldn't facebook on her phone last night after starting up the Lyve software on her laptop. In the long run it'll probably just be easier for me to kill the connection to the net drive than fight with the boss about it. She doesn't grasp that NONE of my internet activity locks out EVERY. OTHER. USER. And then I'm the bad guy. |
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Lyve has this "feature" that lets you access designated files from any device with the proper credentials through the interwebs. So she can look at her potato-cam pics from her ipotato. It is a NAS, but it also mirrors to some unknown cloud server, probably in North Korea. To me it reeks of poor security, but what do I know? Quoted:
while true i googled "Lyve" cloud storage and it seems like its a NAS where its basically a hard drive on the local network. not touching the T1 internet connection. Lyve has this "feature" that lets you access designated files from any device with the proper credentials through the interwebs. So she can look at her potato-cam pics from her ipotato. It is a NAS, but it also mirrors to some unknown cloud server, probably in North Korea. To me it reeks of poor security, but what do I know? ya, if it's set to mirror, it's definitely killing your ds1. turn off the mirroring and see what she does/how long she takes to notice. or check into that software and see if you can limit it's connection speed, like you can do with dropbox.. or, if you do get a new router, look for something that lets you rate limit connections based on ip.. some manufacturers have interface sims that might be helpful finding one that does.. personally, i like my synology's cloud features, since it's the cloud and doesn't upload anywhere else to use the feature |