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6/5/2015 5:20:27 PM EDT
Is there a good website that tells us which MS Win updates are GTG and which ones to avoid (as in the recent one that is putting the Win10 advertisement on your computer)?
6/5/2015 6:11:03 PM EDT
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Nope, you have to read the KB articles like the rest of us.  Also I feel that you can't really call something an advertisement if they're giving it too you for free.
6/7/2015 2:32:02 PM EDT
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I haven't found one yet. I do know that KB3035583 is the update that puts the Windows 10 icon in your notifications box though. I uninstalled it, and when it popped up in Windows update again as an "important" update, I right clicked it and hid it. Haven't had any further problems with the annoying icon OR the update notification.
6/7/2015 6:05:00 PM EDT
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.
6/7/2015 6:06:14 PM EDT
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You won't find one.  Because patch testing is dependent on a massive number of factors that a generic website can't ever cover.
6/7/2015 7:09:15 PM EDT
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Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.
6/8/2015 12:44:00 AM EDT
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Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.
6/8/2015 12:55:05 AM EDT
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It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.
6/8/2015 8:56:12 AM EDT
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I read somewhere that there are STILL more XP machines in service than W8/8.1.  That's just retarded.  Just started playing with the W10 preview in Virtualbox, and am pleasantly surprised so far.
6/8/2015 11:47:31 AM EDT
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Most of those are government machines too, they're paying millions per year to extend support while they continue to migrate to 7.
6/8/2015 2:56:58 PM EDT
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Probably, but a lot aren't connected to the internet anymore at least according to this site. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp


April 2015 22.8% on Win8, 3.6% on XP

April 2014 15.8% on Win8, 8.0% on XP
6/8/2015 11:59:20 PM EDT
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You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.


Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.
6/9/2015 12:57:55 PM EDT
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Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.


Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.


How about you go install Mint.
6/9/2015 1:33:56 PM EDT
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Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.


Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.




6/9/2015 1:45:18 PM EDT
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6/9/2015 1:45:49 PM EDT
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Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.


Their poor planning and execution with XP/Win7 doesn't justify installing what amounts to a popup advertisement (that, btw, is listed as an "important update" that resolves issues with the OS) on my machines. Giving something away also doesn't excuse their behavior, if it did, then the ladies offering food samples in Costco would be following paying customers all over the store reminding them that they were giving away food.

Notify me once and I'm fine with it; do it every time I turn on my computer, and disable the function that is designed by Microsoft to allow me to ignore it, and I'm calling bullshit. They can badger someone else to install their free shit.


6/9/2015 2:00:50 PM EDT
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Hey bro, jump to conclusions much? You're the one who asked what I disliked about it, and then made excuses for the OEM when I stated my reasons. Microsoft shill?
6/9/2015 5:36:13 PM EDT
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Hey bro, jump to conclusions much? You're the one who asked what I disliked about it, and then made excuses for the OEM when I stated my reasons. Microsoft shill?
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Hey bro, jump to conclusions much? You're the one who asked what I disliked about it, and then made excuses for the OEM when I stated my reasons. Microsoft shill?

Yes actually I'm a Microsoft partner and industry advocate.  Does that bother you for some reason or are trying to imply it's an insult?

What you're bitching about is a non-issue, and I as an actual industry expert tried to explain why and you respond with vitriol and self-righteous indignation. This is not GD, half-baked idealogy and pandering to talking points gains you no traction here.

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6/9/2015 6:43:33 PM EDT
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Yes actually I'm a Microsoft partner and industry advocate.  Does that bother you for some reason or are trying to imply it's an insult?

What you're bitching about is a non-issue, and I as an actual industry expert tried to explain why and you respond with vitriol and self-righteous indignation. This is not GD, half-baked idealogy and pandering to talking points gains you no traction here.

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Hey bro, jump to conclusions much? You're the one who asked what I disliked about it, and then made excuses for the OEM when I stated my reasons. Microsoft shill?

Yes actually I'm a Microsoft partner and industry advocate.  Does that bother you for some reason or are trying to imply it's an insult?

What you're bitching about is a non-issue, and I as an actual industry expert tried to explain why and you respond with vitriol and self-righteous indignation. This is not GD, half-baked idealogy and pandering to talking points gains you no traction here.

This ticket is now closed.


Yeah, I could tell. To begin with, I didn't "bitch" about anything, I made a statement and you felt the need to make an issue of it. If you weren't so accustomed to blindly parroting what you've been programmed to say as an "industry expert," you would know that I'm not the only one who didn't care for the underhanded tactic that MS used to install the notification on people's computers; it has been widely discussed on the internet.

That IT helpline mentality that everything is a "non-issue," regardless of what paying customers are saying, is nothing more than the standard trash that companies spew when they don't want to acknowledge their underhanded fuck-ups. And talk about GD mentality - you're the one who couldn't leave it alone, then you want to get all butt-hurt when you don't like the answers that YOU kept pushing for. How about this: If you don't want to know then don't fucking ask.

ETA: You may want to familiarize yourself with the term "shill" before you admit to being one next time.
6/9/2015 8:13:33 PM EDT
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Yeah, I could tell. To begin with, I didn't "bitch" about anything, I made a statement and you felt the need to make an issue of it. If you weren't so accustomed to blindly parroting what you've been programmed to say as an "industry expert," you would know that I'm not the only one who didn't care for the underhanded tactic that MS used to install the notification on people's computers; it has been widely discussed on the internet.





That IT helpline mentality that everything is a "non-issue," regardless of what paying customers are saying, is nothing more than the standard trash that companies spew when they don't want to acknowledge their underhanded fuck-ups. And talk about GD mentality - you're the one who couldn't leave it alone, then you want to get all butt-hurt when you don't like the answers that YOU kept pushing for. How about this: If you don't want to know then don't fucking ask.





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Hey bro, jump to conclusions much? You're the one who asked what I disliked about it, and then made excuses for the OEM when I stated my reasons. Microsoft shill?





Yes actually I'm a Microsoft partner and industry advocate.  Does that bother you for some reason or are trying to imply it's an insult?





What you're bitching about is a non-issue, and I as an actual industry expert tried to explain why and you respond with vitriol and self-righteous indignation. This is not GD, half-baked idealogy and pandering to talking points gains you no traction here.





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Yeah, I could tell. To begin with, I didn't "bitch" about anything, I made a statement and you felt the need to make an issue of it. If you weren't so accustomed to blindly parroting what you've been programmed to say as an "industry expert," you would know that I'm not the only one who didn't care for the underhanded tactic that MS used to install the notification on people's computers; it has been widely discussed on the internet.





That IT helpline mentality that everything is a "non-issue," regardless of what paying customers are saying, is nothing more than the standard trash that companies spew when they don't want to acknowledge their underhanded fuck-ups. And talk about GD mentality - you're the one who couldn't leave it alone, then you want to get all butt-hurt when you don't like the answers that YOU kept pushing for. How about this: If you don't want to know then don't fucking ask.





ETA: You may want to familiarize yourself with the term "shill" before you admit to being one next time.
If the pop-up is such a big deal, why are you commenting about it on here, and not on a professional website, or seeking recourse and/ or assistance from Microsoft, since licensing their product for use gives you access to that help? Are you in this thread looking or recourse or are you just looking for a place to vent?





Also, FYI, MS didn't Add it to "your" computer. They added it to THEIR software. A subtle difference.












If you're this worked up about the whole thing, maybe it's time to learn linux?  If you can't handle a free update notification I feel as though moving into the future, Windows and how they choose to leverage their software licenses won't sit well for you, and other end users like you who don't understand how the system works, or where it's going.


 
6/9/2015 9:19:43 PM EDT
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If the pop-up is such a big deal, why are you commenting about it on here, and not on a professional website, or seeking recourse and/ or assistance from Microsoft, since licensing their product for use gives you access to that help? I answered OP's question. And I'm curious how, exactly, you know who I've communicated with. Surely you're not being deliberately obtuse. Are you in this thread looking or recourse or are you just looking for a place to vent?

Also, FYI, MS didn't Add it to "your" computer. They added it to THEIR software. A subtle difference. A not-so-subtle point is that their software happens to be on MY computer. I'm fully aware of how licensing works. I'm also fully aware that MS deliberately lied about a popup ad being an important update that resolves issues in an OS in order to install it on machines which the owners wouldn't have otherwise. Or maybe you're privy to exactly which "issues" this ad resolves?  




If you're this worked up about the whole thing, maybe it's time to learn linux?  If you can't handle a free update notification recurring popup, for which MS chose to disable the ignore feature; and if you actually read the thread you know that I did indeed "handle" it. So the rest of this paragraph is based on what, exactly? I feel as though moving into the future, Windows and how they choose to leverage their software licenses won't sit well for you, and other end users like you who don't understand how the system works, or where it's going.
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If the pop-up is such a big deal, why are you commenting about it on here, and not on a professional website, or seeking recourse and/ or assistance from Microsoft, since licensing their product for use gives you access to that help? I answered OP's question. And I'm curious how, exactly, you know who I've communicated with. Surely you're not being deliberately obtuse. Are you in this thread looking or recourse or are you just looking for a place to vent?

Also, FYI, MS didn't Add it to "your" computer. They added it to THEIR software. A subtle difference. A not-so-subtle point is that their software happens to be on MY computer. I'm fully aware of how licensing works. I'm also fully aware that MS deliberately lied about a popup ad being an important update that resolves issues in an OS in order to install it on machines which the owners wouldn't have otherwise. Or maybe you're privy to exactly which "issues" this ad resolves?  




If you're this worked up about the whole thing, maybe it's time to learn linux?  If you can't handle a free update notification recurring popup, for which MS chose to disable the ignore feature; and if you actually read the thread you know that I did indeed "handle" it. So the rest of this paragraph is based on what, exactly? I feel as though moving into the future, Windows and how they choose to leverage their software licenses won't sit well for you, and other end users like you who don't understand how the system works, or where it's going.

You may want to actually read the thread. I am not the OP. The OP asked a question related to the popup and I answered with this:

I haven't found one yet. I do know that KB3035583 is the update that puts the Windows 10 icon in your notifications box though. I uninstalled it, and when it popped up in Windows update again as an "important" update, I right clicked it and hid it. Haven't had any further problems with the annoying icon OR the update notification.


The fact that I prefer not to allow an uncontrollable popup on my machine triggered some incredulity among the fanboys, who proceeded to proclaim that it was a "non-issue," and that it "shouldn't bother me." With my sincerest apologies (at least what I can muster) for everyone's butt-hurt, IT geeks and company shills do not get to decide my personal preferences.    


6/9/2015 9:30:57 PM EDT
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For a experiential test at work:
Over the last week I pulled two towers out of my IT scrap pile at work that were shelved in 2007.  They are the same model Dell XP Pro systems with 1GB ram and 80GB drives, one had a MBR virus and the other had a corrupt OS.  The corrupt OS machine got a fresh install of LinuxMint MATE 17.1 and the other is now virus free.  For not supporting XP it still downloaded and installed 114 updates from MS.  I had to manually load NET 2.0 on it though so it would finish installing updates.  Firefox is the modernized browser and Java updated too.  There is something glitchy with Adobe reader though.  I couldn't print in my network because Ricoh dropped their XP files in April.

I'll use the Linux machine to introduce people to Linux when they stop by the IT shack.  It will give them something to play with.
6/9/2015 10:15:57 PM EDT
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You may want to actually read the thread. I am not the OP. The OP asked a question related to the popup and I answered with this:



The fact that I prefer not to allow an uncontrollable popup on my machine triggered some incredulity among the fanboys, who proceeded to proclaim that it was a "non-issue," and that it "shouldn't bother me." With my sincerest apologies (at least what I can muster) for everyone's butt-hurt, IT geeks and company shills do not get to decide my personal preferences.    


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If the pop-up is such a big deal, why are you commenting about it on here, and not on a professional website, or seeking recourse and/ or assistance from Microsoft, since licensing their product for use gives you access to that help? I answered OP's question. And I'm curious how, exactly, you know who I've communicated with. Surely you're not being deliberately obtuse. Are you in this thread looking or recourse or are you just looking for a place to vent?

Also, FYI, MS didn't Add it to "your" computer. They added it to THEIR software. A subtle difference. A not-so-subtle point is that their software happens to be on MY computer. I'm fully aware of how licensing works. I'm also fully aware that MS deliberately lied about a popup ad being an important update that resolves issues in an OS in order to install it on machines which the owners wouldn't have otherwise. Or maybe you're privy to exactly which "issues" this ad resolves?  




If you're this worked up about the whole thing, maybe it's time to learn linux?  If you can't handle a free update notification recurring popup, for which MS chose to disable the ignore feature; and if you actually read the thread you know that I did indeed "handle" it. So the rest of this paragraph is based on what, exactly? I feel as though moving into the future, Windows and how they choose to leverage their software licenses won't sit well for you, and other end users like you who don't understand how the system works, or where it's going.

You may want to actually read the thread. I am not the OP. The OP asked a question related to the popup and I answered with this:

I haven't found one yet. I do know that KB3035583 is the update that puts the Windows 10 icon in your notifications box though. I uninstalled it, and when it popped up in Windows update again as an "important" update, I right clicked it and hid it. Haven't had any further problems with the annoying icon OR the update notification.


The fact that I prefer not to allow an uncontrollable popup on my machine triggered some incredulity among the fanboys, who proceeded to proclaim that it was a "non-issue," and that it "shouldn't bother me." With my sincerest apologies (at least what I can muster) for everyone's butt-hurt, IT geeks and company shills do not get to decide my personal preferences.    




They didn't lie about shit, the update actually contains the framework for delivering the upgrade in and out of channel.  That's why it's listed as important.  Not that you know anything about that because you're way out of your lane.
6/11/2015 9:30:03 PM EDT
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Settle down Beavis.  Listen to people who know wtf they are talking about rather than getting defensive because they aren't validating your opinions.

Incidentally, you're wrong about everything.  What's drawing the IT moths to your brightly burning flame of contrarianism is a distorted perception of Microsoft and something as pedestrian as their Windows 10 upgrade path.

It's not an insidious plan to hijack your computer, shatter your existence, and knock up your sister.  Hell, if it was, I'd probably feel better about my licensing budgets.  Instead I just get plain old enterprise servers, applications, workstation OS's, and that sort of boring stuff.

Anyway, don't worry about the IT pros of Arfcom. They are a surly bunch but they get tired of clubbing baby seals pretty quickly.

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Yeah, I could tell. To begin with, I didn't "bitch" about anything, I made a statement and you felt the need to make an issue of it. If you weren't so accustomed to blindly parroting what you've been programmed to say as an "industry expert," you would know that I'm not the only one who didn't care for the underhanded tactic that MS used to install the notification on people's computers; it has been widely discussed on the internet.

That IT helpline mentality that everything is a "non-issue," regardless of what paying customers are saying, is nothing more than the standard trash that companies spew when they don't want to acknowledge their underhanded fuck-ups. And talk about GD mentality - you're the one who couldn't leave it alone, then you want to get all butt-hurt when you don't like the answers that YOU kept pushing for. How about this: If you don't want to know then don't fucking ask.

ETA: You may want to familiarize yourself with the term "shill" before you admit to being one next time.
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Hey bro, jump to conclusions much? You're the one who asked what I disliked about it, and then made excuses for the OEM when I stated my reasons. Microsoft shill?

Yes actually I'm a Microsoft partner and industry advocate.  Does that bother you for some reason or are trying to imply it's an insult?

What you're bitching about is a non-issue, and I as an actual industry expert tried to explain why and you respond with vitriol and self-righteous indignation. This is not GD, half-baked idealogy and pandering to talking points gains you no traction here.

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Yeah, I could tell. To begin with, I didn't "bitch" about anything, I made a statement and you felt the need to make an issue of it. If you weren't so accustomed to blindly parroting what you've been programmed to say as an "industry expert," you would know that I'm not the only one who didn't care for the underhanded tactic that MS used to install the notification on people's computers; it has been widely discussed on the internet.

That IT helpline mentality that everything is a "non-issue," regardless of what paying customers are saying, is nothing more than the standard trash that companies spew when they don't want to acknowledge their underhanded fuck-ups. And talk about GD mentality - you're the one who couldn't leave it alone, then you want to get all butt-hurt when you don't like the answers that YOU kept pushing for. How about this: If you don't want to know then don't fucking ask.

ETA: You may want to familiarize yourself with the term "shill" before you admit to being one next time.



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6/12/2015 10:33:35 AM EDT
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You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


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Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.


No, they're not giving away a new version just because of that.  They're giving it away in the hopes of tying you into something later.  
6/12/2015 10:52:54 AM EDT
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No, they're not giving away a new version just because of that.  They're giving it away in the hopes of tying you into something later.  
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What the hell is so annoying about the Icon?  It just fucking sits there.  Doing nothing.


Ditto,
Just go to windows search bar in the pull down menu, type in window system tray, then in system tray, change the GWX icon to hide icon and notifications (will move the icon to the arrow pull down menu instead so you don't have to look at it).

Down the road when windows 10 bugs have been worked out after it first release (and before the free upgrade runs out), then it a snap to click on the arrow in the systems tray for the pull down menu, and to click on the GWX icon to download the update.

It annoys me because it's nothing more than advertising. As for the hide notification, I tried that first, but it changes the setting back on every restart because Microsoft made it an executable to be sure they get their free advertising. It's the equivalent of using "freeware" that continually advertises unless you subscribe to the paid version, only I already paid for this OS when I bought it.


You want to know why they are doing it?  Because the XP end-of-life was a fucking nightmare.  They're GIVING it away so there's not a repeat of that clusterfuck.


No, they're not giving away a new version just because of that.  They're giving it away in the hopes of tying you into something later.  


No. Just...no.  
6/12/2015 12:33:48 PM EDT
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What exactly are they tying you into?  I'm willing to be educated.

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6/13/2015 4:44:29 PM EDT
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Yes, please educate me as well.  I mean, I only have personal and professional contacts inside Microsoft on the Windows dev team, the Office dev team, and the Exchange dev team, a partner rep, and receive internal technical briefs disseminated only to Microsoft partners.  Hell I once participated in an inside conference call that discussed what changes were being made to the Win8 and 8.1 kernel.  If he has a greater level of access to information about the direction of Win10 and knows something that I some how in all of that didn't hear about, I want to know.  Now.

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6/13/2015 5:36:28 PM EDT
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Yes, please educate me as well.  I mean, I only have personal and professional contacts inside Microsoft on the Windows dev team, the Office dev team, and the Exchange dev team, a partner rep, and receive internal technical briefs disseminated only to Microsoft partners.  Hell I once participated in an inside conference call that discussed what changes were being made to the Win8 and 8.1 kernel.  If he has a greater level of access to information about the direction of Win10 and knows something that I some how in all of that didn't hear about, I want to know.  Now.


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Yes, please educate me as well.  I mean, I only have personal and professional contacts inside Microsoft on the Windows dev team, the Office dev team, and the Exchange dev team, a partner rep, and receive internal technical briefs disseminated only to Microsoft partners.  Hell I once participated in an inside conference call that discussed what changes were being made to the Win8 and 8.1 kernel.  If he has a greater level of access to information about the direction of Win10 and knows something that I some how in all of that didn't hear about, I want to know.  Now.

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No, they're not giving away a new version just because of that.  They're giving it away in the hopes of tying you into something later.  




Sorry, you guys are right.

Microsoft has gone to the entire trouble of developing and releasing a new operating system, for free, just so their wouldn't be an upgrade fiasco.  I totally believe that.

6/13/2015 7:32:30 PM EDT
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Sorry, you guys are right.

Microsoft has gone to the entire trouble of developing and releasing a new operating system, for free, just so their wouldn't be an upgrade fiasco.  I totally believe that.

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Yes, please educate me as well.  I mean, I only have personal and professional contacts inside Microsoft on the Windows dev team, the Office dev team, and the Exchange dev team, a partner rep, and receive internal technical briefs disseminated only to Microsoft partners.  Hell I once participated in an inside conference call that discussed what changes were being made to the Win8 and 8.1 kernel.  If he has a greater level of access to information about the direction of Win10 and knows something that I some how in all of that didn't hear about, I want to know.  Now.

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No, they're not giving away a new version just because of that.  They're giving it away in the hopes of tying you into something later.  




Sorry, you guys are right.

Microsoft has gone to the entire trouble of developing and releasing a new operating system, for free, just so their wouldn't be an upgrade fiasco.  I totally believe that.



You do realize 10 is basically an evolution of 8, right?
6/13/2015 9:41:44 PM EDT
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Sorry, you guys are right.

Microsoft has gone to the entire trouble of developing and releasing a new operating system, for free, just so their wouldn't be an upgrade fiasco.  I totally believe that.

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Yes, please educate me as well.  I mean, I only have personal and professional contacts inside Microsoft on the Windows dev team, the Office dev team, and the Exchange dev team, a partner rep, and receive internal technical briefs disseminated only to Microsoft partners.  Hell I once participated in an inside conference call that discussed what changes were being made to the Win8 and 8.1 kernel.  If he has a greater level of access to information about the direction of Win10 and knows something that I some how in all of that didn't hear about, I want to know.  Now.

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No, they're not giving away a new version just because of that.  They're giving it away in the hopes of tying you into something later.  




Sorry, you guys are right.

Microsoft has gone to the entire trouble of developing and releasing a new operating system, for free, just so their wouldn't be an upgrade fiasco.  I totally believe that.



And what knowledge or information do you have to come to that conclusion?  Are you in regular contact with Microsoft?
6/14/2015 10:26:36 PM EDT
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I could speak at length about the profit potential of micro transaction based sales, but the tards aren't going to even comprehend it let alone see the merit of it so I won't even bother.
6/16/2015 9:46:17 PM EDT
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I'm really going to enjoy the Windows 10 rollout.