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3/23/2015 9:33:48 AM EDT
Asking this because I only know enough to waste a lot of $ on something I don't need!

Here is the set up.

Have the internet connection into the house.
Ran 250 feet of Ethernet cable to the Morton barn that I use for my man cave - I have the cable run right to the computer.
Steel security caging over the windows turn this into a Faraday cage so had to hardwire.



What I want to do.

I want to hook up WiFi  in side the barn so I can get internet radio from a location about 40 feet from the computer.

Can I just buy a Wifi router, plug the Ethernet cable into it, then one into the computer and the router would give me the WiFi that I need?

If so what type?  I see N type routers and N+ type.  Cheap / expensive for all types.  

I can not get FM radio and I can only get AM radio and will shoot myself if I have to listen to Glen Beck for another day!  Save me!
3/23/2015 10:13:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Why not stream music from the pc with a speaker in the area you want to listen to.
3/23/2015 11:01:23 AM EDT
[#2]
Does the 250 feet go straight from the cable modem to your barn? Are there any computers or devices connected to to in the house?

If there is a router in the house and that is where the 250 foot cable comes from, you'll just want an access point, not a router.

If it's really connected straight to the modem and there is no router anywhere then you can just plug it into a wireless router.
3/23/2015 2:55:51 PM EDT
[#3]
In the house the line goes into the WiFi router.  I then took the Ethernet cable from the router straight into the back of the computer in the barn.

What I was wondering was if I could just get another WIFI router in the barn.

Put the end of the Ethernet cable in the computer into the router - run a short Ethernet line from the router to the computer and then pick up the WiFI at the other end of the barn.

I hope that is clear enough.  If not I will do an MS Paint drawing.
3/23/2015 3:07:53 PM EDT
[#4]
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In the house the line goes into the WiFi router.  I then took the Ethernet cable from the router straight into the back of the computer in the barn.

What I was wondering was if I could just get another WIFI router in the barn.

Put the end of the Ethernet cable in the computer into the router - run a short Ethernet line from the router to the computer and then pick up the WiFI at the other end of the barn.

I hope that is clear enough.  If not I will do an MS Paint drawing.
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A router attached to another router is a recipe for disaster if you don't know exactly what you're doing and which settings to change. Just get a wireless access point and do what you're saying. My only experience is with a Ubiquiti access point which works GREAT, but isn't quite plug and play setup. One of these might be perfect for you. It says router but can be setup in multiple ways. One of the selling points is using it in a hotel to plug into the ethernet port so you can have your own wireless network in your room::

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR710N-Wireless-Repeater-Charging/dp/B00FRMAOIO
3/23/2015 3:26:08 PM EDT
[#5]
OK...a couple things....IT guys don't murder me here but i have a little basic knowledge on this subject.  

A ROUTER acts as a DHCP server and hands out IP addresses to the various devices on your home network.  A lot of people confuse this with other devices (wireless AP/Switch/modem/etc...).  If you have a all in one device from your ISP (the combo modem, router, and wireless), you likely already have the router covered.  No need to buy another.  In fact it could cause problems to have 2 devices handling DHCP.  

A switch is basically a dumb router that you can connect mulitple devices into.  It doesn't have DHCP so only one device connected to it will work at a time in absence of a true router.  

A wireless AP is a device that throws out its own wi fi signal, or that can chain together with other wifi devices to expand coverage.  

The modem is the device that handles connecting your network to the outside world.  

Clear as mud?  OK, here we go...

I'm going to assume that you have the all in one modem/router/wifi thrower or a combo of that in your house.  From here, you run a 250ft cable from the router to the barn to hard wire your PC in the barn to your home network.  Add a switch (dumb router...they cost $15-20) in between the router and that PC in the barn.  The PC will hook into that switch and you'll have another 3-xxx spaces in that switch.  Add a wireless access point to that switch (to connect the wireless AP in your barn to your home network so it can connect the AP to the outside world) in your barn to provide wireless coverage in that area.  I like ubiquiti unifi APs.  I think mine was about $80 and is super reliable.  You can even get fancy and chain them together by adding 1 in your house, 1 in the barn, and have them link the wireless connection so they'll seamlessly hand off to each other as you/your wireless device pass from one coverage area (in your house) to the other (in your barn).  Otherwise you'll have to manually switch as you move between areas assuming you have the all in one throwing wifi at your house.   My ubiquiti is much throws a much more powerful signal than the comcast all in one unit, so i simply disable the wifi on the router and use the AP for wireless access.  

3/23/2015 3:40:06 PM EDT
[#6]
I realize it may be hard to envision that wall of text i just typed, so here's a diagram.  



This is the AP i use.  
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005H4CDF4/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687702&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004XXMUCQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0W3D659F7THKX3Q16XDX
3/23/2015 3:49:09 PM EDT
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OK...a couple things....IT guys don't murder me here but i have a little basic knowledge on this subject.  

A ROUTER acts as a DHCP server and hands out IP addresses to the various devices on your home network.  A lot of people confuse this with other devices (wireless AP/Switch/modem/etc...).  If you have a all in one device from your ISP (the combo modem, router, and wireless), you likely already have the router covered.  No need to buy another.  In fact it could cause problems to have 2 devices handling DHCP.  

A switch is basically a dumb router that you can connect mulitple devices into.  It doesn't have DHCP so only one device connected to it will work at a time in absence of a true router.  

A wireless AP is a device that throws out its own wi fi signal, or that can chain together with other wifi devices to expand coverage.  

The modem is the device that handles connecting your network to the outside world.  

Clear as mud?  OK, here we go...

I'm going to assume that you have the all in one modem/router/wifi thrower or a combo of that in your house.  From here, you run a 250ft cable from the router to the barn to hard wire your PC in the barn to your home network.  Add a switch (dumb router...they cost $15-20) in between the router and that PC in the barn.  The PC will hook into that switch and you'll have another 3-xxx spaces in that switch.  Add a wireless access point to that switch (to connect the wireless AP in your barn to your home network so it can connect the AP to the outside world) in your barn to provide wireless coverage in that area.  I like ubiquiti unifi APs.  I think mine was about $80 and is super reliable.  You can even get fancy and chain them together by adding 1 in your house, 1 in the barn, and have them link the wireless connection so they'll seamlessly hand off to each other as you/your wireless device pass from one coverage area (in your house) to the other (in your barn).  Otherwise you'll have to manually switch as you move between areas assuming you have the all in one throwing wifi at your house.   My ubiquiti is much throws a much more powerful signal than the comcast all in one unit, so i simply disable the wifi on the router and use the AP for wireless access.  

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A router can be used as a switch or access point if you shut off the DHCP and use only the LAN ports.  If the router / AP has removable antennae, they can be swapped out with a larger, higher gain antenna placed outside the window.