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4/24/2012 7:35:07 PM EDT
I'm helping a photographer with her website. She sent me a disc full of images that she had processed with Aperture on a Macintosh. I'm running Windows 7 and when I view her photos in Windows Explorer they look as they should. As soon as I open them in Photoshop CS5, the colors in the image change and look richer. It's a big noticeable difference and I can't view the photos or save them as they appear in Windows Explorer. Can anyone tell me why Photoshop is doing this?
4/24/2012 7:51:41 PM EDT
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I'm helping a photographer with her website. She sent me a disc full of images that she had processed with Aperture on a Macintosh. I'm running Windows 7 and when I view her photos in Windows Explorer they look as they should. As soon as I open them in Photoshop CS5, the colors in the image change and look richer. It's a big noticeable difference and I can't view the photos or save them as they appear in Windows Explorer. Can anyone tell me why Photoshop is doing this?


Color model?
4/24/2012 8:07:25 PM EDT
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Windows Explorer does not allow for image viewing.  If you mean Windows Internet Explorer, IE is not color managed so you are seeing the basic sRGB colors while PS is showing you the correct color profile.
4/24/2012 8:15:00 PM EDT
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Windows Explorer does not allow for image viewing.  If you mean Windows Internet Explorer, IE is not color managed so you are seeing the basic sRGB colors while PS is showing you the correct color profile.


maybe he means windows photo viewer?
4/24/2012 8:18:09 PM EDT
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Windows Explorer does not allow for image viewing.  If you mean Windows Internet Explorer, IE is not color managed so you are seeing the basic sRGB colors while PS is showing you the correct color profile.


I can see thumbnails in Windows Explorer and they show the images as they should appear, as does opening them in IE. If I open one of the images in Adobe PS, then save it as a copy, I end up with two distinctly different looking photos (in terms of colors) for viewing in IE. I've never come across this when working with photos and am wondering if it has something to do with her producing them in Aperture on a Mac, and me opening them in CS5 on a Win7 machine.

Thanks to both of you and Kirk I'm looking at the color settings...

4/25/2012 6:34:34 AM EDT
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Sounds like a color space problem.  Some browsers handle this well, some do not.

If the pictures are being published to the web, they all need to be converted to sRGB instead of AdobeRGB.
4/25/2012 6:57:00 AM EDT
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Sounds like a color space problem.  Some browsers handle this well, some do not.

If the pictures are being published to the web, they all need to be converted to sRGB instead of AdobeRGB.



Yeah, it sounds like a color management issue, by the software on which the images are being viewed.   And just to complicate things,  some software (browsers) will show thumbnails without color management, but full size images with color management.  
4/25/2012 9:32:35 PM EDT
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I can see thumbnails in Windows Explorer and they show the images as they should appear, as does opening them in IE.
About the "as they should appear" thing, are you sure about that?  The issue here is that PS is displaying the colors according to how they are defined in the embedded color profile while IE and Explorer are more likely to be showing crap based on a default color profile.  

Are both computers using monitors that have been color calibrated?
4/28/2012 7:55:06 AM EDT
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I can see thumbnails in Windows Explorer and they show the images as they should appear, as does opening them in IE.
About the "as they should appear" thing, are you sure about that?  The issue here is that PS is displaying the colors according to how they are defined in the embedded color profile while IE and Explorer are more likely to be showing crap based on a default color profile.  

Are both computers using monitors that have been color calibrated?


If I view properties on the original images, it says they are 24-bit sRGB jpegs...which is what photoshop is opening them as...yet I get the color change. I've now noticed that if I do a "Save for web" and create a new jpeg, I can deselect the "Convert to sRGB" option and the image I'm about to save reverts to looking like the original. I guess maybe photoshop is converting images that don't need to be converted...perhaps it's a big relating to them being created in aperture on a mac and opened in ps on a windows system. It seems to me photoshop should not be performing the conversion it wants to do, since the embedded color profile matches its settings.

Am I making any sense or at all on target with this assumption? I've been using photoshop for years but am far from an expert. Thanks all of you for the replies too, they've helped.

ETA: My monitor is not color calibrated, however, I've never encountered anything like this before...so I'm guessing it's less of a rendering issue and more of a bug or difference between the two systems being used to edit the photos.
4/28/2012 9:10:19 AM EDT
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As previously mentioned, I'd put money on the images in explorer NOT showing the proper colors (not using the color profile). Photoshop is reading the profile and applying the changes.

How are you determining that "they look as they should" (windows explorer) is correct?
4/28/2012 2:17:01 PM EDT
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As previously mentioned, I'd put money on the images in explorer NOT showing the proper colors (not using the color profile). Photoshop is reading the profile and applying the changes.

How are you determining that "they look as they should" (windows explorer) is correct?


I'm skeptical only because this is the first time I've run into this issue after managing thousands and thousands of photos over the years in Photoshop. Also, I've viewed these same images in browsers that are color matched, like Opera and Chrome, and they look the same as they do in IE.

I've never before seen an image change from one saturation or color to another once opened in Photoshop. Also, the properties of each image sent to me indicate a 24-bit sRGB color profile, which is my Photoshop installs native setting for opening jpegs.