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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:00:42 PM EDT
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Based on our daily rate we should make a million handily.
Looking at team standings, Giroux Bros has been averaging 25k/day/member. Those guys have too much free time on their hands. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 10:16:01 AM EDT
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Tonight's regular gym workout includes rowing. 3:00 max-distance rows, 1:00 other stuff. Repeat 4x. So basically a series of sprints followed by gasping for air, rinse and repeat.
Hopefully all this work pays off. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:10:47 PM EDT
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Alot of those are BikeErgs
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Posted: 1/27/2022 1:45:43 PM EDT
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Hidden benefit of rowing lots of meters: reduced right shoulder pain. My shoulders have been bothering me for years, due to poor posture sitting at a computer every day. I've worked through most of the issues, except my right shoulder has severe ROM limits.
Last night I was able to do pushups and dips with minimal pain, for the first time in about a year. I credit rowing and improved upper back strength and mobility. There's probably a benefit from strengthening low back/glute/hams as well. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 1:18:30 AM EDT
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Holy cow we quietly passed a million meters. That's a lot of meters. Fun fact: If you took all those meters and laid them end to end they would stretch 1,000 kilometers.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 3:56:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All my concept 2 rowers were replaced with assault rowers. They have padded seats. How do you like it compared to the C2? Do you miss having a damper to adjust drag? What about the monitor compared to the PM5? |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 4:27:57 PM EDT
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2k PR. Doing a few shorter sessions to try and improve to a 19:00 5k. Doubt if I'll hit that this month. The challenge has been great "type 2 fun"
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Posted: 1/28/2022 4:39:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2k PR. Doing a few shorter sessions to try and improve to a 19:00 5k. Doubt if I'll hit that this month. The challenge has been great "type 2 fun" https://i.imgur.com/yqdZZRU.png Niiiiiice |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 6:07:48 PM EDT
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A couple of years ago there was a million meter (for the year) thread. Ant chance we could get another one rolling?
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Posted: 1/28/2022 7:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of years ago there was a million meter (for the year) thread. Ant chance we could get another one rolling? Sounds like you're volunteering! I'll play. We've already got a good start. Next month I'm focusing on running, and I'll do the C2 WODs |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 6:24:35 PM EDT
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Last day for this challenge tomorrow. Get your meters in while you can.
Also, added a million meter challenge thread, pinned at the top. Plenty of time to get your Kms in this year. |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 12:38:45 PM EDT
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More importantly, this is our last chance to clean up those dangling sloppy meters. Remember, it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, as long as you look good doing it.
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Posted: 1/31/2022 1:58:12 PM EDT
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Put another 2500 on the board over lunch
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Posted: 1/31/2022 1:59:51 PM EDT
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FEDEX just dropped off mine.
any idea what tools I need to assemble so I can take them home tonight? |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 2:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FEDEX just dropped off mine. any idea what tools I need to assemble so I can take them home tonight? |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 4:23:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FEDEX just dropped off mine. any idea what tools I need to assemble so I can take them home tonight?  Concept2 Rower Assembly: How to Assemble your Concept2 RowErg Rowing Machine |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 4:30:21 PM EDT
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thanks. didn't think about searching youtube for answers
looks like a T30 is all I need. easy. |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 5:25:17 PM EDT
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Concept 2's online documentation is better than most professional tools I use.
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Posted: 1/31/2022 5:44:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FEDEX just dropped off mine. any idea what tools I need to assemble so I can take them home tonight? I was wondering when yours was going to get delivered. IIRC, you just need the included torx driver that comes in the box. It’s super simple to put together. Congrats! You’ll love it. I was in Vegas for four days this month  but this was my contribution to the team: Attached File |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 8:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was wondering when yours was going to get delivered. IIRC, you just need the included torx driver that comes in the box. It’s super simple to put together. Congrats! You’ll love it. I was in Vegas for four days this month but this was my contribution to the team:https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/1717C09E-546F-445E-AD82-31F823FAF9A4_png-2262003.JPG took just over two weeks. which seems longer when your waiting. |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 11:48:47 PM EDT
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Still figuring out all the links and settings on logs.
Did 2000m while watching the technique video. This thing is pretty fun. |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 12:09:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was wondering when yours was going to get delivered. IIRC, you just need the included torx driver that comes in the box. It’s super simple to put together. Congrats! You’ll love it. I was in Vegas for four days this month but this was my contribution to the team:https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/1717C09E-546F-445E-AD82-31F823FAF9A4_png-2262003.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FEDEX just dropped off mine. any idea what tools I need to assemble so I can take them home tonight? I was wondering when yours was going to get delivered. IIRC, you just need the included torx driver that comes in the box. It’s super simple to put together. Congrats! You’ll love it. I was in Vegas for four days this month but this was my contribution to the team:https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/1717C09E-546F-445E-AD82-31F823FAF9A4_png-2262003.JPG Nice! We have til 3 Feb to upload any stray meters. Unless folks are hoarding them, let's stick a fork in this challenge. Nice work arfcom. You fuckers made me push way beyond anything I would've done otherwise, I'm stronger and better for it. Thank you, each and every one. |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 12:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still figuring out all the links and settings on logs. Did 2000m while watching the technique video. This thing is pretty fun. There's a biathlon game, I'm going to play with it and see if I can incorporate my mantis blackbeard system, and laser academy. This is timely because I'm enrolled in a biathlon clinic mid-February. Yes, that's XC skiing and shooting exotic European .22 rifles. |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 12:36:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2022 10:53:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Post deleted Those are harder to find than rowers right now, and much more expensive. |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 11:03:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are harder to find than rowers right now, and much more expensive. Lol. Sorry for the slight thread derail. The action is super smooth and the trigger is light and breaks real clean. It’s pretty accurate. You’ll have a blast! This is the 5-round test group at 50m:  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 11:08:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a biathlon game, I'm going to play with it and see if I can incorporate my mantis blackbeard system, and laser academy. This is timely because I'm enrolled in a biathlon clinic mid-February. Yes, that's XC skiing and shooting exotic European .22 rifles. nice... I'm not gonna lie, I'm a weirdo who practices dry firing on a balance board. I'm gonna have to do a lot of form work. I felt like I was doing zero work with my legs and everything with my arms. or I just have super puss arms. that's probably most of it.
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Posted: 2/1/2022 11:57:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Sorry for the slight thread derail. The action is super smooth and the trigger is light and breaks real clean. It’s pretty accurate. You’ll have a blast! This is the 5-round test group at 50m: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/26F45E03-C99A-4ACB-96EC-4691A94C809A_jpe-2262674.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those are harder to find than rowers right now, and much more expensive. Lol. Sorry for the slight thread derail. The action is super smooth and the trigger is light and breaks real clean. It’s pretty accurate. You’ll have a blast! This is the 5-round test group at 50m: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/26F45E03-C99A-4ACB-96EC-4691A94C809A_jpe-2262674.JPG Not a problem, the challenge is done and I enjoyed the photo while it lasted. I'm really looking forward to picking up skate skiing. |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 12:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nice... I'm not gonna lie, I'm a weirdo who practices dry firing on a balance board. I'm gonna have to do a lot of form work. I felt like I was doing zero work with my legs and everything with my arms. or I just have super puss arms. that's probably most of it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's a biathlon game, I'm going to play with it and see if I can incorporate my mantis blackbeard system, and laser academy. This is timely because I'm enrolled in a biathlon clinic mid-February. Yes, that's XC skiing and shooting exotic European .22 rifles. nice... I'm not gonna lie, I'm a weirdo who practices dry firing on a balance board. I'm gonna have to do a lot of form work. I felt like I was doing zero work with my legs and everything with my arms. or I just have super puss arms. that's probably most of it. Be sure to get the technique right at the beginning, breaking bad habits is much harder than forming good ones. C2 lists coaches on their web site, it might be worthwhile buying a few hours of in person coaching time. The informal coaching from the collegiate rowers was invaluable and helped save my back. Think of it as a series of deadlifts with a compromised position. Keep your core braced. Sit up straight, don't let your pelvis tilt, hinge from the hips. The force curve display is very useful. Start out with a lower damper setting. Once I realized the damper is similar to gearing on a bike, I understood how to make use of it and how I can set it for different workouts. Be aware, speed will suffer as will pushing movements. Add in pushups, bench press, and overhead press to balance the bitchin' upper back strength. Rowing makes your posterior chain strong, but lacks speed: box jumps and olympic lifts will help develop that newfound butt strength into power and speed. https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/technique-videos/getting-started |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 10:33:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Sorry for the slight thread derail. The action is super smooth and the trigger is light and breaks real clean. It’s pretty accurate. You’ll have a blast! This is the 5-round test group at 50m: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/26F45E03-C99A-4ACB-96EC-4691A94C809A_jpe-2262674.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those are harder to find than rowers right now, and much more expensive. Lol. Sorry for the slight thread derail. The action is super smooth and the trigger is light and breaks real clean. It’s pretty accurate. You’ll have a blast! This is the 5-round test group at 50m: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/26F45E03-C99A-4ACB-96EC-4691A94C809A_jpe-2262674.JPG You should join us in the precision .22 thread. That's an awesome group. I need to up my precision .22 game, and buy a biathlon rifle. Looks like there's a common answer only a few paychecks away! |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 11:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should join us in the precision .22 thread. That's an awesome group. I need to up my precision .22 game, and buy a biathlon rifle. Looks like there's a common answer only a few paychecks away! Thanks! Sorry to derail your thread. I really appreciate 22’s but that can get really expensive! Finding the right lot number and buying a pallet of ammo. I’ll look into it in a bit but they’re probably shooting scoped tactical 22’s? For that, I just shoot a Sako Quad w/ a Nightforce. Here is the bolt assembly for the straight pull Fortner biathlon action. The locking balls retract when you pull the bolt to the rear. They pop back out and lock the bolt in place when pushed forward:  Attached FileFor a really cool 3-position rifle, check out the Grunig & Elmiger R3 Racer. Incredible. That thing is awesome but I’d need to win the lottery!  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 12:11:30 AM EDT
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Derail at will! We have this perfectly good thread and the rowing content has moved on. Unless I can convince the UW rowing team to let me bring a rifle on the boat.
 Maybe we should start a biathlon thread. |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 12:19:25 AM EDT
[#33]
I dunno how to post anything else so here's a strava screen shot, working on form and not pushing super hard.
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Posted: 2/2/2022 1:29:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dunno how to post anything else so here's a strava screen shot, working on form and not pushing super hard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/317810/Screenshot_20220201-211616_Strava_jpg-2263607.JPG That’s great that you’re up to 5,000m so quickly. Check out the Beginner Pete Plan (BPP) as well. That incorporates steady state rows and intervals increasing in distance every week. It also gives you plenty of optional days to row as well as rest days. A heart rate monitor has been a must for me. Beginner Pete Plan |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 10:50:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s great that you’re up to 5,000m so quickly. Check out the Beginner Pete Plan (BPP) as well. That incorporates steady state rows and intervals increasing in distance every week. It also gives you plenty of optional days to row as well as rest days. A heart rate monitor has been a must for me. Beginner Pete Plan thats a good plan. I'm gonna print it out. thank you. it was also the second 5,000m, I did one the first night after I put it together (new toy!). I just didn't have the log book set up on line so it didn't got to my strava. one question, on the recovery and catch, is there anything in specific I can do to get the catch better, it often feels like there's no tension at first and I miss the power from my legs to get going, occasionally I'll get a really good one and put down a lot more power but for the most part it feels... over run? do I need to slow down... slower to get that to happen? keeping my back straight and not slouching over has been the hardest part to keep in mind. |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 11:32:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thats a good plan. I'm gonna print it out. thank you. it was also the second 5,000m, I did one the first night after I put it together (new toy!). I just didn't have the log book set up on line so it didn't got to my strava. one question, on the recovery and catch, is there anything in specific I can do to get the catch better, it often feels like there's no tension at first and I miss the power from my legs to get going, occasionally I'll get a really good one and put down a lot more power but for the most part it feels... over run? do I need to slow down... slower to get that to happen? keeping my back straight and not slouching over has been the hardest part to keep in mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That’s great that you’re up to 5,000m so quickly. Check out the Beginner Pete Plan (BPP) as well. That incorporates steady state rows and intervals increasing in distance every week. It also gives you plenty of optional days to row as well as rest days. A heart rate monitor has been a must for me. Beginner Pete Plan thats a good plan. I'm gonna print it out. thank you. it was also the second 5,000m, I did one the first night after I put it together (new toy!). I just didn't have the log book set up on line so it didn't got to my strava. one question, on the recovery and catch, is there anything in specific I can do to get the catch better, it often feels like there's no tension at first and I miss the power from my legs to get going, occasionally I'll get a really good one and put down a lot more power but for the most part it feels... over run? do I need to slow down... slower to get that to happen? keeping my back straight and not slouching over has been the hardest part to keep in mind. If you forget, your lumbar spine will remind you in a few days.  During long pieces I slow down and do a segmented stroke, emphasizing each motion and focusing on my core and hip position, and being sure I fully extend my legs and hinge forward enough to feel a stretch in my hams. If I just stroke away my hips rotate back, which will end badly for the L-spine. |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 11:34:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s great that you’re up to 5,000m so quickly. Check out the Beginner Pete Plan (BPP) as well. That incorporates steady state rows and intervals increasing in distance every week. It also gives you plenty of optional days to row as well as rest days. A heart rate monitor has been a must for me. Beginner Pete Plan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dunno how to post anything else so here's a strava screen shot, working on form and not pushing super hard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/317810/Screenshot_20220201-211616_Strava_jpg-2263607.JPG That’s great that you’re up to 5,000m so quickly. Check out the Beginner Pete Plan (BPP) as well. That incorporates steady state rows and intervals increasing in distance every week. It also gives you plenty of optional days to row as well as rest days. A heart rate monitor has been a must for me. Beginner Pete Plan This morning I looked at rankings in the logbook. I'm toying with the idea of picking a short, medium, and long piece and working on improving my rank. |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 11:48:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thats a good plan. I'm gonna print it out. thank you. it was also the second 5,000m, I did one the first night after I put it together (new toy!). I just didn't have the log book set up on line so it didn't got to my strava. one question, on the recovery and catch, is there anything in specific I can do to get the catch better, it often feels like there's no tension at first and I miss the power from my legs to get going, occasionally I'll get a really good one and put down a lot more power but for the most part it feels... over run? do I need to slow down... slower to get that to happen? keeping my back straight and not slouching over has been the hardest part to keep in mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That’s great that you’re up to 5,000m so quickly. Check out the Beginner Pete Plan (BPP) as well. That incorporates steady state rows and intervals increasing in distance every week. It also gives you plenty of optional days to row as well as rest days. A heart rate monitor has been a must for me. Beginner Pete Plan thats a good plan. I'm gonna print it out. thank you. it was also the second 5,000m, I did one the first night after I put it together (new toy!). I just didn't have the log book set up on line so it didn't got to my strava. one question, on the recovery and catch, is there anything in specific I can do to get the catch better, it often feels like there's no tension at first and I miss the power from my legs to get going, occasionally I'll get a really good one and put down a lot more power but for the most part it feels... over run? do I need to slow down... slower to get that to happen? keeping my back straight and not slouching over has been the hardest part to keep in mind. Try some of the exercises where you row with arms only, then hinging only, then legs only. Then start combining them into a full stroke. When I'm doing a short piece for time I focus on initiating with my butt and hams explosively, to accelerate the handle as fast as possible, and engage the flywheel as early in the stroke as I can. Watch the force curve: I try to make the left side of the curve vertical, then keep the top either flat or slightly arched. The bad habit I develop is: reaching too far forward to try and catch a little earlier and lengthen my stroke. That's probably a recipe for injury. The force curve is a great tool: This is a pretty brief discussion, the pdf at the bottom is good reading: https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/tips-and-general-info/using-the-force-curve Mathematically integrating the force curve (calculating the area under the curve) calculates the energy you put into the stroke. Talking to one of the collegiate rowers, we were looking at my force curve and I made an observation rooted in engineering: Ideally, I want to maximize the area under that curve, in other words, put the maximum energy into the flywheel with each stroke. She said that's exactly what her coaches worked toward. Here's some more discussion from the C2 forums: https://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10349 |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 11:54:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Derail at will! We have this perfectly good thread and the rowing content has moved on. Unless I can convince the UW rowing team to let me bring a rifle on the boat. Maybe we should start a biathlon thread. Yep I’m pro-derail, there will be another team challenge right around the corner. Can do a new thread for that. I haven’t even considered getting in to the precision .22 game yet. |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 2:55:54 PM EDT
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I just joined the team but looking at some of y’all’s workouts, I’m not even in the same league
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Posted: 2/2/2022 5:38:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just joined the team but looking at some of y’all’s workouts, I’m not even in the same league I’m sure you’re doing just fine. I’m probably one of the slowest guys out there but I don’t sweat it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 11:13:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2k PR. Doing a few shorter sessions to try and improve to a 19:00 5k. Doubt if I'll hit that this month. The challenge has been great "type 2 fun" https://i.imgur.com/yqdZZRU.png Mmmm. I have work to do.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/2/2022 11:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mmmm. I have work to do. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23930/4B6AB612-B08E-4F13-B6A1-9C63CEACC34D_png-2264739.JPG Need to scrape it together and get back in the swing of things tomorrow. |
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Posted: 2/3/2022 1:07:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice effort! It is incredibly hard to go fast on these things. I intended to join the 1 million mile group but I haven't been back in the seat since the challenge ended. Fell off my running program this week too Need to scrape it together and get back in the swing of things tomorrow. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mmmm. I have work to do. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23930/4B6AB612-B08E-4F13-B6A1-9C63CEACC34D_png-2264739.JPG Need to scrape it together and get back in the swing of things tomorrow. I ran yesterday for the first time since I had covid. It went surprisingly well. The posterior chain strength built by rowing seems to have helped my stride, which has sucked since high school. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 5:44:04 PM EDT
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Joined the team.
Also did a 10k this morning, too damn cold to go ride at 15f.  Attached FileI see what y'all are saying about the seat now. I thought my mtb seasoned taint was ready for this Next up to buy list. heartrate monitor and ass pad. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 5:54:50 PM EDT
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  I swear, some of you guys have the funniest sense of humor. Nice job on the 10K! |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:34:41 PM EDT
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Seriously tho. Which is the best seat pad. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:08:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously tho. Which is the best seat pad. No discernible benefits for comfort or longevity. I am packing some extra weight though, if you have a bony butt it might be a better deal. Their website showed out of stock but I emailed them directly and he responded that there was a used model for about 60% off. I didn't have any qualms about a used ass-pad and bought it. It's worth reaching out. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:45:20 AM EDT
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Slide forward on the seat so your hams don't interfere with the front edge, make sure your pelvis is not rotated posteriorly, and sit up tall. Also tough it out for about 10 days of hard rowing. This exercise taxes the posterior chain, you might be feeling soreness in muscles that haven't been used in anger. Seriously, I think the pads might cover for poor technique that could lead to injury.
The pad will raise you off the seat slightly, further compromising what is already a pretty poor deadlift/clean position. My ass is not extremely hard, I felt soreness for the first week and my sciatica doesn't like really long rows. But by focusing on technique and position I was able to row huge volumes in my first serious month on the machine. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:21:58 AM EDT
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Did any of you guys experience any elbow pain? I don’t notice it while rowing but the next day it’s pretty annoying until I get up and moving
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