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1/16/2017 1:47:31 AM EDT
Escalation of force:
1.  Avoid bad situations and be smart
2.  Have some self-defense competency in a violent situation
3.  Carry and be able to shoot under stress

With regards to above, if you're goal is to respond to aggression and create space, vacate, or go to #3, what style of self-defense training is the best?  #2 is a gap for me, and as my kids get older I'd like to invest in some training at some point so they (and me) have some experience to fall back on should they ever need it

What would you guys recommend?  
1/16/2017 2:10:12 AM EDT
[#1]
Krav Maga gym that does a lot of ground.
1/16/2017 4:50:37 AM EDT
[#2]
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If you want to learn to fight and do it in a quick amount of time this is the way to go. There is a good reason the Israelis developed this fighting and still use it.
1/16/2017 9:01:39 AM EDT
[#3]
Judo/Jujitsu schools are pretty numerous and can provide some great real world solutions, especially from grappling and ground. American Boxing and Mui Thai are good striking arts.  If you could find an MMA school, you would get a good mixture of both even if you had no desire to step into a ring.

IMHO, violent and proper execution of a few basic techniques is likely to get you past most encounters you would have with drunk guy at a football game or the like.
1/16/2017 10:10:47 AM EDT
[#4]
I recommend #1 even if it means eating a little humble pie. First you don't want to hurt anyone. It's a terrible feeling hurting someone. Second the fight winner is almost always the one that goes to jail. Even if it was self defense. No winners in fights.
1/16/2017 10:38:37 AM EDT
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I agree.  I'm the sole provider for my wife and kids - I am not rolling around on the ground for no good reason.  I'm fast so I can run away 

I just don't want to be incompetent should the situation be unavoidable.

If you have no skill for #2, perhaps it could make you more likely to have to escalate to #3 --- which I'd also like to avoid, more so.
1/16/2017 12:24:45 PM EDT
[#6]
I agree with everyone above, but sometimes there is a place for empty handed defense.  You may not purposely put yourself in that position but I would rather have and not need than...you know.

IF # 1 fails and you do not have the opportunity (mounted or the like) or ability (Airport, work, ect) for #3, I'd like to have something. Force use is a sliding scale, and is not binary. I'd rather have something in between walk away and shoot.
1/16/2017 10:52:30 PM EDT
[#7]
A number of MMA schools offer a program focused on self defense - boxing/MT for striking, judo/wrestling for body control & takedowns, BJJ for ground fighting is typical. I prefer that to any single program or art because they all have holes and I agree with Bruce Lee about mixing and matching to take the best from each.
1/17/2017 7:05:44 AM EDT
[#8]
How old are your kids?

Just do something. There's a lot of value in traditional martial arts. Karate, akido, judo, jujitsu, etc. Boxing, MT, wrestling.

I've trained in a few different styles. Wrestling, TSD, oki-karate, must Thai, BJJ, JJ, mcmap, and can't say any one is the best for SD.
1/24/2017 4:57:25 PM EDT
[#9]
We've tailored short courses for folks wanting a basic understanding.  Our main thing is Kodokan Judo but there's a lot more to it than that.  We do a one day women's basic class that is easily one of the most painful days I spend every year.  Talk to a real dojo and see what they can do for you.  Bruce Lee famously taught that no one style or school is "best".  He was a big proponent of taking what works best for you in your context and going with that. 

Oh, and don't be surprised if you get hooked on it.  A martial art is more than just fighting.  It's a way of life in many respects.  Budo, that's what it's called. 
1/25/2017 12:41:56 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been training in krav maga for about 4 years.  It's very effective because it focuses early on on basic strikes and self defense techniques, then progresses to more advanced "fighting" skills.

It has a little of everything- ground work, upright strikes and kicks, punch/kick defense, defense against specific attacks (chokes, bear hugs).  It's a jack of all trades, master of none approach.  Which is fine if you're goal is to go about your daily life and be able to fight through and get home from unexpected, random attacks that may take any form.  I like the boxing protion most, but I'll never be as good form krav as a teenager whose been boxing for a few years.

The most important thing is to fine a good, reputable instructor.  More important than style, etc.  There may not be a krav studio near you, but maybe there's a really good boxing gym.  Or BJJ studio.  What really matters is learning something from a good instructor.  If you can't find an overall "system" like krav, training at both boxing and BJJ will give you a solid foundation.
1/26/2017 8:50:43 AM EDT
[#11]
Kembativz or Martial Blade Concepts, or the ARFcom answer - both.

Kelly McCann and Mike Janich are absolute top notch instructors, creators, and just awesome human beings.  Both address and teach the entire continuum of safety, not just empty hand.  Kelly's class on pre-incident indicators is absolutely spectacular.  Both have seminars across the country, and both combatives practitioner groups (in Mike's case, he also has certified instructors) in many states.