[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Fasting? You should be (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/6/2014 6:49:08 PM EDT
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Fasting for three days can regenerate entire immune system, study finds
Fasting for as little as three days can regenerate the entire immune system, even in the elderly, scientists have found in a breakthrough described as "remarkable". Although fasting diets have been criticised by nutritionists for being unhealthy, new research suggests starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection. "When you starve, the system tries to save energy, and one of the things it can do to save energy is to recycle a lot of the immune cells that are not needed, especially those that may be damaged," Dr Longo said. |
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I wonder if that's why you don't really have an appetite when sick? Body's natural way of taking you down that road. Interesting! I'm sick now, and no appetite. I had to force myself to eat, and still didn't get all my cals in. Protein "autophagy" is known to result from fasting, but this goes beyond that. |
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Interesting! I'm sick now, and no appetite. I had to force myself to eat, and still didn't get all my cals in. Protein "autophagy" is known to result from fasting, but this goes beyond that. Quoted:
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I wonder if that's why you don't really have an appetite when sick? Body's natural way of taking you down that road. Interesting! I'm sick now, and no appetite. I had to force myself to eat, and still didn't get all my cals in. Protein "autophagy" is known to result from fasting, but this goes beyond that. Like a degenerative preventative measure? The body eating itself on a molecular level- that's just plain crazy!! |
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I wonder if that's why you don't really have an appetite when sick? Body's natural way of taking you down that road. I can eat non-stop when I am ill, provided it isn't some sort of intestinal virus. The feeling of hunger just doesn't go away, unless I gorge myself. Even then, it comes back shortly later. |
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Link to the study
Immune system defects are at the center of aging and a range of diseases. Here, we show that prolonged fasting reduces circulating IGF-1 levels and PKA activity in various cell populations, leading to signal transduction changes in long-term hematopoietic stem cells (LT-HSCs) and niche cells that promote stress resistance, self-renewal, and lineage-balanced regeneration. Multiple cycles of fasting abated the immunosuppression and mortality caused by chemotherapy and reversed age-dependent myeloid-bias in mice, in agreement with preliminary data on the protection of lymphocytes from chemotoxicity in fasting patients. The proregenerative effects of fasting on stem cells were recapitulated by deficiencies in either IGF-1 or PKA and blunted by exogenous IGF-1. These findings link the reduced levels of IGF-1 caused by fasting to PKA signaling and establish their crucial role in regulating hematopoietic stem cell protection, self-renewal, and regeneration. |
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Hogwash. Only some people can fast safely. Others will get really sick. This is bunk science and a fad. Top 10 fasting myths debunked |
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Hogwash. Only some people can fast safely. Others will get really sick. This is bunk science and a fad. Did you actually read the study or any of the evidence? Do you have any supporting evident or studies for people getting "really sick" or is Hogwash your supporting evidence? |
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Did you actually read the study or any of the evidence? Do you have any supporting evident or studies for people getting "really sick" or is Hogwash your supporting evidence? Quoted:
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Hogwash. Only some people can fast safely. Others will get really sick. This is bunk science and a fad. Did you actually read the study or any of the evidence? Do you have any supporting evident or studies for people getting "really sick" or is Hogwash your supporting evidence? Just use google there's stuff that suggests that while fasting may agree with some men, women, in particular, may have problems with it. Blood sugar issues, hormone issues, that kind of thing. I know it's downright dangerous for me to skip meals. I go long enough without food, I stop wanting it and I'm not safe to drive. Sometimes, I pass out. I don't have diabetes or anything, I just need to eat. If fasting doesn't mess you up, more power to you. I only object to it being touted as simply being "good", when it's only good for some, and definitely not good for some others. |
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Just use google there's stuff that suggests that while fasting may agree with some men, women, in particular, may have problems with it. Blood sugar issues, hormone issues, that kind of thing. I know it's downright dangerous for me to skip meals. I go long enough without food, I stop wanting it and I'm not safe to drive. Sometimes, I pass out. I don't have diabetes or anything, I just need to eat. If fasting doesn't mess you up, more power to you. I only object to it being touted as simply being "good", when it's only good for some, and definitely not good for some others. When you fast do you stay very, very very hydrated? Do you take electrolites? have you actually had any tests done by a doctor during a fast? have you been tested to see if it increased white blood cells? Also the study showed that "starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection. "When you starve, the system tries to save energy, and one of the things it can do to save energy is to recycle a lot of the immune cells that are not needed, especially those that may be damaged," So saying it is bunk science and "hogwash" because it makes you sick and is dangerous kind of a reach |
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When you fast do you stay very, very very hydrated? Do you take electrolites? have you actually had any tests done by a doctor during a fast? have you been tested to see if it increased white blood cells? Also the study showed that "starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection. "When you starve, the system tries to save energy, and one of the things it can do to save energy is to recycle a lot of the immune cells that are not needed, especially those that may be damaged," So saying it is bunk science and "hogwash" because it makes you sick and is dangerous kind of a reach Quoted:
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Just use google there's stuff that suggests that while fasting may agree with some men, women, in particular, may have problems with it. Blood sugar issues, hormone issues, that kind of thing. I know it's downright dangerous for me to skip meals. I go long enough without food, I stop wanting it and I'm not safe to drive. Sometimes, I pass out. I don't have diabetes or anything, I just need to eat. If fasting doesn't mess you up, more power to you. I only object to it being touted as simply being "good", when it's only good for some, and definitely not good for some others. When you fast do you stay very, very very hydrated? Do you take electrolites? have you actually had any tests done by a doctor during a fast? have you been tested to see if it increased white blood cells? Also the study showed that "starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection. "When you starve, the system tries to save energy, and one of the things it can do to save energy is to recycle a lot of the immune cells that are not needed, especially those that may be damaged," So saying it is bunk science and "hogwash" because it makes you sick and is dangerous kind of a reach No more of a reach than "Fasting? You should be." |
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It simply doesn't work for all people and it's makes others sick. It is not a universal panacea. Quoted:
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Hogwash. Only some people can fast safely. Others will get really sick. This is bunk science and a fad. Um no, not really. It simply doesn't work for all people and it's makes others sick. It is not a universal panacea. "some" people can do it safely. "hogwash' "bunk science" "fad" No. This just isn't true. May cause issues with some people, but your statements above are incorrect. |
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Did you actually read the article? It is talking about fasting being benifical to cancer patients on chemo and other people who have comprimied immune system. Quoted:
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No more of a reach than "Fasting? You should be." Did you actually read the article? It is talking about fasting being benifical to cancer patients on chemo and other people who have comprimied immune system. So what you're trying to say is that the article agrees with me? That it's not for everybody. Which is what the tread title implies. |
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"some" people can do it safely. "hogwash' "bunk science" "fad" No. This just isn't true. May cause issues with some people, but your statements above are incorrect. Quoted:
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Hogwash. Only some people can fast safely. Others will get really sick. This is bunk science and a fad. Um no, not really. It simply doesn't work for all people and it's makes others sick. It is not a universal panacea. "some" people can do it safely. "hogwash' "bunk science" "fad" No. This just isn't true. May cause issues with some people, but your statements above are incorrect. There's probably decent science in that article, and it may be beneficial to some people, under some circumstances. But the idea that "you should be fasting" and the whole fasting fad is potentially dangerous for the average glib adopter of diet trends. Honestly, I'd have no issue if the thread title were "Should you be fasting?". |
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There's probably decent science in that article, and it may be beneficial to some people, under some circumstances. But the idea that "you should be fasting" and the whole fasting fad is potentially dangerous for the average glib adopter of diet trends. Honestly, I'd have no issue if the thread title were "Should you be fasting?". So without actually reading the article you call it "bunk science" it is "hogwash" and a fad. 
congradulations you win dumbest post of the day. |
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So without actually reading the article you call it "bunk science" it is "hogwash" and a fad.
congradulations you win dumbest post of the day. Quoted:
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There's probably decent science in that article, and it may be beneficial to some people, under some circumstances. But the idea that "you should be fasting" and the whole fasting fad is potentially dangerous for the average glib adopter of diet trends. Honestly, I'd have no issue if the thread title were "Should you be fasting?". So without actually reading the article you call it "bunk science" it is "hogwash" and a fad.
congradulations you win dumbest post of the day. I was attacking the thread and article combo. Not the science in the study itself, though I don't trust the Daily Telegraph. The study doesn't support "you should be fasting". It's more the misapplication I take issue with. |
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I was attacking the thread and article combo. Not the science in the study itself, though I don't trust the Daily Telegraph. The study doesn't support "you should be fasting". It's more the misapplication I take issue with. So without actually reading the article or knowing that the science was talking about regenerating white blood cells you make a broad general statement that fasting is "bunk science". Also the people you say it does not work for have you actually had a white blood cell count before and after the fast? EDIT: If you don't like the Daily Telegraph H46Drive posted a link to the medical study in pubmed. |
| Anyway, any of you guys fast? What are your experiences? About a year ago I came across Leangains, and tried out the 16 hour fasts. I took a little adjusting to, but was not too difficult. Then I went ketogenic diet, and it was a snap after that. A few months ago I came across Eat-Stop-Eat and the 24 hour fast; ketosis also made that easy to follow, because keto gives you limitless energy: eat, don't eat, its all the same. It's an easy way to reduce total calories, but you have to be careful not to cut too much, especially if you are working out strenuously. |
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Just use google there's stuff that suggests that while fasting may agree with some men, women, in particular, may have problems with it. Blood sugar issues, hormone issues, that kind of thing. I know it's downright dangerous for me to skip meals. I go long enough without food, I stop wanting it and I'm not safe to drive. Sometimes, I pass out. I don't have diabetes or anything, I just need to eat. If fasting doesn't mess you up, more power to you. I only object to it being touted as simply being "good", when it's only good for some, and definitely not good for some others. Quoted:
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Hogwash. Only some people can fast safely. Others will get really sick. This is bunk science and a fad. Did you actually read the study or any of the evidence? Do you have any supporting evident or studies for people getting "really sick" or is Hogwash your supporting evidence? Just use google there's stuff that suggests that while fasting may agree with some men, women, in particular, may have problems with it. Blood sugar issues, hormone issues, that kind of thing. I know it's downright dangerous for me to skip meals. I go long enough without food, I stop wanting it and I'm not safe to drive. Sometimes, I pass out. I don't have diabetes or anything, I just need to eat. If fasting doesn't mess you up, more power to you. I only object to it being touted as simply being "good", when it's only good for some, and definitely not good for some others. It takes the human body between four and six hours after eating to reach a fasted state. Did you sleep 6 hours last night? Congratulations you fast every day! If you aren't defining what you are talking about you come across very ignorant because of blanket statements. A common intermittent fasting routine (aka fad diet) would be 16 hour fast and 8 hour feeding. Is this the kind of fasting you mean? That would be the same as having dinner at 6pm, not eating until breakfast at 10am. Do you mean a 24 hour fast? My point is that unless you wake in the middle of the night to eat, your body will become fasted (hence break-fast). You just contradicted everything you just said as I can only assume when you say fast you mean your body is in a fasted state which is a state that most people reach daily. Must not be too unhealthy. |
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Anyway, any of you guys fast? What are your experiences? About a year ago I came across Leangains, and tried out the 16 hour fasts. I took a little adjusting to, but was not too difficult. Then I went ketogenic diet, and it was a snap after that. A few months ago I came across Eat-Stop-Eat and the 24 hour fast; ketosis also made that easy to follow, because keto gives you limitless energy: eat, don't eat, its all the same. It's an easy way to reduce total calories, but you have to be careful not to cut too much, especially if you are working out strenuously. Yep, I've had success with 16 hour fasts because it allows me to better manage calories in the shorter feeding window. Never had energy problems at 16 hours fasted, I sleep for most of that anyway. |
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Anyway, any of you guys fast? What are your experiences? About a year ago I came across Leangains, and tried out the 16 hour fasts. I took a little adjusting to, but was not too difficult. Then I went ketogenic diet, and it was a snap after that. A few months ago I came across Eat-Stop-Eat and the 24 hour fast; ketosis also made that easy to follow, because keto gives you limitless energy: eat, don't eat, its all the same. It's an easy way to reduce total calories, but you have to be careful not to cut too much, especially if you are working out strenuously. Without too much of a hijack, what is the quick and dirty explanation of the "eat-stop-eat?" |
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Without too much of a hijack, what is the quick and dirty explanation of the "eat-stop-eat?" Quoted:
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Anyway, any of you guys fast? What are your experiences? About a year ago I came across Leangains, and tried out the 16 hour fasts. I took a little adjusting to, but was not too difficult. Then I went ketogenic diet, and it was a snap after that. A few months ago I came across Eat-Stop-Eat and the 24 hour fast; ketosis also made that easy to follow, because keto gives you limitless energy: eat, don't eat, its all the same. It's an easy way to reduce total calories, but you have to be careful not to cut too much, especially if you are working out strenuously. Without too much of a hijack, what is the quick and dirty explanation of the "eat-stop-eat?" This is an Intermittent Fasting thread; your request is not a hijack! Eat-Stop-Eat: this is a 24 hour fast. Example (if you eat 3 meals per day, normally): Have breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Day 1. On Day 2, skip breakfast and lunch, and eat dinner as normal...viola, you just fasted 24 hours, and did not have to go an entire day without eating. Do this once or twice a week (but never on consecutive days, and always eat normally on non-fasting days), and you just cut out a huge amount of calories...and caloric restriction is the only acknowledged way to lose weight. You can find the e-book online; it has some nifty info about the physiology of fasting (hint, there are no negative health impacts at all, unless you go much over 3 days). I did the 24 hour fast for a while; as I said, if you are keto-adapted, it is quite easy. Yes there is some hunger, but it goes away, is never too bad, and it teaches you discipline. Afterwards, you never worry about skipping meals again; I've eaten fast-food crap in the past because I felt I "had" to have nourishment every few hours; now I just wait till I can get back home, and have good, healthy eats. A close cousin to this is the Alternate Day Modified Fast; it has been proven medically safe and effective. Basically, eat normally one day; the next, have 25% of your normal calories. Read about it here. |
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This is an Intermittent Fasting thread; your request is not a hijack! Eat-Stop-Eat: this is a 24 hour fast. Example (if you eat 3 meals per day, normally): Have breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Day 1. On Day 2, skip breakfast and lunch, and eat dinner as normal...viola, you just fasted 24 hours, and did not have to go an entire day without eating. Do this once or twice a week (but never on consecutive days, and always eat normally on non-fasting days), and you just cut out a huge amount of calories...and caloric restriction is the only acknowledged way to lose weight. You can find the e-book online; it has some nifty info about the physiology of fasting (hint, there are no negative health impacts at all, unless you go much over 3 days). I did the 24 hour fast for a while; as I said, if you are keto-adapted, it is quite easy. Yes there is some hunger, but it goes away, is never too bad, and it teaches you discipline. Afterwards, you never worry about skipping meals again; I've eaten fast-food crap in the past because I felt I "had" to have nourishment every few hours; now I just wait till I can get back home, and have good, healthy eats. A close cousin to this is the Alternate Day Modified Fast; it has been proven medically safe and effective. Basically, eat normally one day; the next, have 25% of your normal calories. Read about it here. Were you working out or active on the fasted day, effect energy levels at all? |
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Yep, I've had success with 16 hour fasts because it allows me to better manage calories in the shorter feeding window. Never had energy problems at 16 hours fasted, I sleep for most of that anyway. Quoted:
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Anyway, any of you guys fast? What are your experiences? About a year ago I came across Leangains, and tried out the 16 hour fasts. I took a little adjusting to, but was not too difficult. Then I went ketogenic diet, and it was a snap after that. A few months ago I came across Eat-Stop-Eat and the 24 hour fast; ketosis also made that easy to follow, because keto gives you limitless energy: eat, don't eat, its all the same. It's an easy way to reduce total calories, but you have to be careful not to cut too much, especially if you are working out strenuously. Yep, I've had success with 16 hour fasts because it allows me to better manage calories in the shorter feeding window. Never had energy problems at 16 hours fasted, I sleep for most of that anyway. I do this too. The only exception is the morning after a workout, I usually drink a scoop of protein twice before lunch. Also, I usually take some aminos in the morning regardless. I don't think it's optimal for building muscle, but I think it works well for cutting fat. |
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This is an Intermittent Fasting thread; your request is not a hijack! Eat-Stop-Eat: this is a 24 hour fast. Example (if you eat 3 meals per day, normally): Have breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Day 1. On Day 2, skip breakfast and lunch, and eat dinner as normal...viola, you just fasted 24 hours, and did not have to go an entire day without eating. Do this once or twice a week (but never on consecutive days, and always eat normally on non-fasting days), and you just cut out a huge amount of calories...and caloric restriction is the only acknowledged way to lose weight. You can find the e-book online; it has some nifty info about the physiology of fasting (hint, there are no negative health impacts at all, unless you go much over 3 days). I did the 24 hour fast for a while; as I said, if you are keto-adapted, it is quite easy. Yes there is some hunger, but it goes away, is never too bad, and it teaches you discipline. Afterwards, you never worry about skipping meals again; I've eaten fast-food crap in the past because I felt I "had" to have nourishment every few hours; now I just wait till I can get back home, and have good, healthy eats. A close cousin to this is the Alternate Day Modified Fast; it has been proven medically safe and effective. Basically, eat normally one day; the next, have 25% of your normal calories. Read about it here. Were you working out or active on the fasted day, effect energy levels at all? I work out every day (weights 4x week; cardio usually every day). I could not see an effect to energy levels at all. However, recently I was fasting 3 days a week as an experiment (it's all an experiment to me), as well as having reduced cals on weekdays, and I started to lose strength. Before I was doing 2 fast days (for a couple of months) and not losing or gaining strength as far as I could tell. I want to get my strength back, so I'm cutting the fasting day down to 1, and upping my cals on the other days. I think the mistake I made was to cut too much for too long. Reducing hard for a short time then easing up might be a better option. This all depends on your bodyfat percentage though- higher percentages can get away with reducing intake more. What is your BF%? |
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I work out every day (weights 4x week; cardio usually every day). I could not see an effect to energy levels at all. However, recently I was fasting 3 days a week as an experiment (it's all an experiment to me), as well as having reduced cals on weekdays, and I started to lose strength. Before I was doing 2 fast days (for a couple of months) and not losing or gaining strength as far as I could tell. I want to get my strength back, so I'm cutting the fasting day down to 1, and upping my cals on the other days. I think the mistake I made was to cut too much for too long. Reducing hard for a short time then easing up might be a better option. This all depends on your bodyfat percentage though- higher percentages can get away with reducing intake more. What is your BF%? Were you keeping track of any macro's when fasting 3 times a week? You mentioned ketosis earlier, was that from the fasted state or reduced carb load? I'm in the 15-18% range. Would like to get back around 12, but for now lifting comes first. Willing to have slow body recomp as long as lifting progression isn't stalled. |
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Were you keeping track of any macro's when fasting 3 times a week? You mentioned ketosis earlier, was that from the fasted state or reduced carb load? I'm in the 15-18% range. Would like to get back around 12, but for now lifting comes first. Willing to have slow body recomp as long as lifting progression isn't stalled. Quoted:
I work out every day (weights 4x week; cardio usually every day). I could not see an effect to energy levels at all. However, recently I was fasting 3 days a week as an experiment (it's all an experiment to me), as well as having reduced cals on weekdays, and I started to lose strength. Before I was doing 2 fast days (for a couple of months) and not losing or gaining strength as far as I could tell. I want to get my strength back, so I'm cutting the fasting day down to 1, and upping my cals on the other days. I think the mistake I made was to cut too much for too long. Reducing hard for a short time then easing up might be a better option. This all depends on your bodyfat percentage though- higher percentages can get away with reducing intake more. What is your BF%? Were you keeping track of any macro's when fasting 3 times a week? You mentioned ketosis earlier, was that from the fasted state or reduced carb load? I'm in the 15-18% range. Would like to get back around 12, but for now lifting comes first. Willing to have slow body recomp as long as lifting progression isn't stalled. At your BF%, you should take it slow on heavy calorie reductions. The Leangains protocol would be excellent for you, for slower recomp. As BF% comes down, I've heard that carb refeeds are recommended: 1x week at least, and 2x when BF levels are really low. You could try one 24 hour fast per week too, on a non-lifting day; just monitor your response closely. My macros are about 3% carb, 27% protein, and 70% fat. This is of course ketogenic, but I have observed that a 24 hour fast itself induces ketosis. |
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At your BF%, you should take it slow on heavy calorie reductions. The Leangains protocol would be excellent for you, for slower recomp. As BF% comes down, I've heard that carb refeeds are recommended: 1x week at least, and 2x when BF levels are really low. You could try one 24 hour fast per week too, on a non-lifting day; just monitor your response closely. My macros are about 3% carb, 27% protein, and 70% fat. This is of course ketogenic, but I have observed that a 24 hour fast itself induces ketosis. Quoted:
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I work out every day (weights 4x week; cardio usually every day). I could not see an effect to energy levels at all. However, recently I was fasting 3 days a week as an experiment (it's all an experiment to me), as well as having reduced cals on weekdays, and I started to lose strength. Before I was doing 2 fast days (for a couple of months) and not losing or gaining strength as far as I could tell. I want to get my strength back, so I'm cutting the fasting day down to 1, and upping my cals on the other days. I think the mistake I made was to cut too much for too long. Reducing hard for a short time then easing up might be a better option. This all depends on your bodyfat percentage though- higher percentages can get away with reducing intake more. What is your BF%? Were you keeping track of any macro's when fasting 3 times a week? You mentioned ketosis earlier, was that from the fasted state or reduced carb load? I'm in the 15-18% range. Would like to get back around 12, but for now lifting comes first. Willing to have slow body recomp as long as lifting progression isn't stalled. At your BF%, you should take it slow on heavy calorie reductions. The Leangains protocol would be excellent for you, for slower recomp. As BF% comes down, I've heard that carb refeeds are recommended: 1x week at least, and 2x when BF levels are really low. You could try one 24 hour fast per week too, on a non-lifting day; just monitor your response closely. My macros are about 3% carb, 27% protein, and 70% fat. This is of course ketogenic, but I have observed that a 24 hour fast itself induces ketosis. The leangains structure is my natural eating habit so works out pretty good.  I've never really been a "food driven" individual so going long periods without eating isn't a problem. To gain weight over the past few years I've retrained myself to what actually eating really was. I occasionally need to watch myself during my feeding window as overconsumption is a tough thing to unlearn.
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Fasting is something that I do periodically. I used to use the 10 day lemonade fast (fresh squeezed lemons, Cayenne pepper, maple syrup). During this the first 3 days were holy hell with headaches, flu like symptoms. I believe essentially my liver was cleansing. After the 3rd day I felt fine, not great, but fine. I could walk (didn't feel like running) and my day to day activities were fine. Now I juice for 10 days. I still go through a 3 day detox of sorts but I feel much better afterwards, more energy, stronger. I can run and do any exercise I want. |
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The detox you experienced was your body's reaction to being deprived of carbs, and a transition to ketosis. The maple syrup is not doing anything for you but arresting that adaptation.
Really though you should just "fast". No food intake at all, and only water. Diet soda if you must have something. Try it. |
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You really should be adding electrolytes to you water by either lemon or lime juice. Especially if working out. Quoted:
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Really though you should just "fast". No food intake at all, and only water. Diet soda if you must have something. Try it. You really should be adding electrolytes to you water by either lemon or lime juice. Especially if working out. BCAA's are the better option IMO, won't interrupt the fast. I was on a Pogue deployment to Iraq...PT in 120+ degrees and I worked out fasted fairly regularly. Drank a ton of water obviously and used BCAA's prior and was GTG. I second ditching the maple syrup. |
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BCAA's are the better option IMO, won't interrupt the fast. I was on a Pogue deployment to Iraq...PT in 120+ degrees and I worked out fasted fairly regularly. Drank a ton of water obviously and used BCAA's prior and was GTG. I second ditching the maple syrup. Quoted:
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You really should be adding electrolytes to you water by either lemon or lime juice. Especially if working out. BCAA's are the better option IMO, won't interrupt the fast. I was on a Pogue deployment to Iraq...PT in 120+ degrees and I worked out fasted fairly regularly. Drank a ton of water obviously and used BCAA's prior and was GTG. I second ditching the maple syrup. I have read multiple places about adding eletrolytes during fasting. On Mark's daily apple he has had a couple of articles on it. |
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You really should be adding electrolytes to you water by either lemon or lime juice. Especially if working out. Quoted:
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Really though you should just "fast". No food intake at all, and only water. Diet soda if you must have something. Try it. You really should be adding electrolytes to you water by either lemon or lime juice. Especially if working out. That is great info, thanks. My garage turns into a furnace in the summer, and I'll be sweating buckets when I lift. |
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BCAA's are the better option IMO, won't interrupt the fast. I was on a Pogue deployment to Iraq...PT in 120+ degrees and I worked out fasted fairly regularly. Drank a ton of water obviously and used BCAA's prior and was GTG. I second ditching the maple syrup. Quoted:
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Really though you should just "fast". No food intake at all, and only water. Diet soda if you must have something. Try it. You really should be adding electrolytes to you water by either lemon or lime juice. Especially if working out. BCAA's are the better option IMO, won't interrupt the fast. I was on a Pogue deployment to Iraq...PT in 120+ degrees and I worked out fasted fairly regularly. Drank a ton of water obviously and used BCAA's prior and was GTG. I second ditching the maple syrup. Which BCAA's were you taking that had electrolytes included? |
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I believe he meant take BCAA instead of electrolytes. But when I fast it is not nearly as long as a 10 day fast. I do 36-48 hrs. Quoted:
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Which BCAA's were you taking that had electrolytes included? I believe he meant take BCAA instead of electrolytes. But when I fast it is not nearly as long as a 10 day fast. I do 36-48 hrs. Why do you do 36-48 hr. fasts? Were you working out too? The longest I've done is 24 hrs. |
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Why do you do 36-48 hr. fasts? Were you working out too? The longest I've done is 24 hrs. Quoted:
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Which BCAA's were you taking that had electrolytes included? I believe he meant take BCAA instead of electrolytes. But when I fast it is not nearly as long as a 10 day fast. I do 36-48 hrs. Why do you do 36-48 hr. fasts? Were you working out too? The longest I've done is 24 hrs. I dont fast every week, usually 1-2 times a month. Mu fast day is usually Sunday the only workout that day is some prowler pushing. I do 36 hrs because we go out to dinner Saturday night then i dont eat sunday and have breakfast monday morning. Works out to about 34-35 hrs. Sometimes a push it longer. |