Posted: 4/4/2013 9:04:51 PM EDT
| I would like to know what you guys think about them. Pros? Cons? Any experience with them is appreciated. |
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I took a weeks worth of them a long long time ago. We were at sea and I was tired of fighting for gym time so I went back to PT and gave the PH's to a buddy. He mostly just got fat... I don't k ow how he took them, his eating and lifting routines so my observation was purely subjective.
I didn't feel any different but mentally I didn't like possible side effects. I didn't take them long enough to notice anything one way or another anyway. I wouldn't use them now. |
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halodrol+11oxo (100% legal) got me HUGE. unfortunately it also got my muscles stronger than my tendons and i had a blowout. (could have avoided it though, if i knew what to watch for) i was seriously jacked for awhile though.
actually the time between the end of the cycle of these oral anabolics (face it, they may be called "prohormones", but thats not really what they are) and the time when I noticed the pain was a few months, so realistically, it wasnt the pharms. IMHO I think I just am too old for "no pain no gain" |
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Evidently, they can ruin your liver and still require the same post cycle therapy as the traditional 'roids. Growing tits seems to be an issue, as well. I'm neither a doctor nor an expert, but they're supposedly steroids, made by people trying to fly under the radar of DEA and FDA (I think some manufacturers call them research chemicals or something and provide no dosages) and whether they produce "wet" or "dry" gains and how much of one's gains are retained post cycle is debatable. Regardless, your liver and endocrine system will take a hit and natural testosterone production will fall off, leaving corresponding estrogen levels high.
IMO, this stuff isn't healthy and definitely not for beginners. Maybe an experienced, educated, disciplined and courageous (foolish?) lifter who has run up against his natural limit could get an edge from pro hormones and remain relatively safe in the process, but I doubt most consumers will fit that mold. Better to just lift, eat, sleep and stick to protein supplements. |
| My BIL went against my advice and tried a pro-hormone and he regrets not listening to me after numerous visits to the ER and damn near liver failure he turned yellow and got liver spots oh did I mention that when it was all said and done he had lost 20+ pounds of hard earned muscle. Do it the right way with a doc or dont do it at all. |
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I've never used them but I know a few people who have.
If you know what your doing they are essentially the same thing as roids... The thing is, you HAVE to know what you are doing with them or you can end up hospitalized with medical issues. I know people who are successful with them and 1 person who ended up hospitalized due to them... Again its for an experianced lifter who knows how to cycle and does their homework. |
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Read, read and then read some more!
Are you going to pop pills? If so you should have your liver values checked every 2 weeks + cholesterol. Have PCT ready. Get hair care products or you will lose LOTS of hair from the DHT. Get a anti aromatase to keep you level headed, and keep water retention down, and bitch tits at bay. |
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Quoted: Read, read and then read some more! Are you going to pop pills? If so you should have your liver values checked every 2 weeks + cholesterol. Have PCT ready. Get hair care products or you will lose LOTS of hair from the DHT. Get a anti aromatase to keep you level headed, and keep water retention down, and bitch tits at bay. this is why you should go to an anti aging doc if you want juice... do it legal. it's safer, and a hell of a lot more productive. tren is potent, but without aromas powerful pct, you're gonna get crazy spill into estro... tren is BAD without balancers... Qualified physicians, boys. find them.
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Read, read and then read some more! Are you going to pop pills? If so you should have your liver values checked every 2 weeks + cholesterol. Have PCT ready. Get hair care products or you will lose LOTS of hair from the DHT. Get a anti aromatase to keep you level headed, and keep water retention down, and bitch tits at bay. this is why you should go to an anti aging doc if you want juice... do it legal. it's safer, and a hell of a lot more productive. tren is potent, but without aromas powerful pct, you're gonna get crazy spill into estro... tren is BAD without balancers... Qualified physicians, boys. find them. I've never seen an anti-aging clinic that will prescribe tren. Not saying there is none, but I haven't seen it. Have you seen otherwise? |