Posted: 4/3/2013 5:09:47 PM EDT
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My wife has been sticking with lifting so I decided (since we didn't do Christmas) to splurge and get my wife and I each a pair of nano 2.o.
My wife's arrived and she loved them, however the toe turns in a lot for her (she struggles with her arches as it is). First of all, why the fuck does the toe of these shoes turn in so sharply? Maybe I should have known this, but it was a knee jerk purchase. I am thinking these may not be the shoes for her. So, sparing no expense, what should I get her for lifting/gym wear if we send these back? I know her arches need help, but she struggled staying on her heels when squatting while wearing asics (bigger heel/arch) Anyway, thanks for the advice |
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I don't know anything about those shoes and why the toe turns in.
But is you wife wants shoes for lifting in DONT get running shoes, they are terrible to squat in. It is like trying to squat on a bed. Get shoes with really hard soles. A lot of people lift in Chuck Taylors....they are not very styliest but who give a Fk you are trying to get stronger. OR get a pair of squating shoes. I have Adidas squat shoes and love them. Also there are exersices to strengthen the arch. Picking up marbles, towel curls etc. I have bad arches and tape my foot on heavy squat days, if I don't my Planter Fascities acts up. Here is how to tape it |
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Quoted: I don't know anything about those shoes and why the toe turns in. But is you wife wants shoes for lifting in DONT get running shoes, they are terrible to squat in. It is like trying to squat on a bed. Get shoes with really hard soles. A lot of people lift in Chuck Taylors....they are not very styliest but who give a Fk you are trying to get stronger. OR get a pair of squating shoes. I have Adidas squat shoes and love them. Also there are exersices to strengthen the arch. Picking up marbles, towel curls etc. I have bad arches and tape my foot on heavy squat days, if I don't my Planter Fascities acts up. Here is how to tape it The shoes he's talking about are flat soled, and not bad as a do it all shoe for someone that isn't a serious lifter. OP- you could look at chucks, those are always popular. I also like the New Balance minimus shoes quite a bit, but I'm not sure how those would be on her arches.
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I have arch issues: I found merrel barefoot are pretty amazing and are my go-to shoe... Except I just snagged a new pair of oly shoes for squats/oly lifts... Also look at keen shoes. I wear these often when I'm going to be on my feet for 24+hrs. Better arch support...
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People have different arches and unless in a hard brace and kept there you are not really going to change anything. Providing arch support is just allowing the muscles within the foot to not have to work so much - weaken.
Further, there are 20 plus bones in the foot which makes for many joints. Lends itself quite nicely for joint dysfunction to occur - impact and movement to the feet, fatigue and stress on the structures repeated hundreds of times in a day (conservative estimate). Tissues being stressed repetitively in an irregular manner just might lead to pain/soreness. |
| I really like my Five-Fingers. Haters gonna hate and all that, but I like them. Granted I don't work out in a gym where you might run afoul of odd-looking-footwear-rules, and I don't lift extremely heavy weights for squating and deadlifting. I do P90x at home and I used to do it barefoot, but the Five-Fingers give me much more grip on the carpet so I don't slip around. My balance has improved tremendously, I can only assume from working the feet muscles more. |
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I really like my Five-Fingers. Haters gonna hate and all that, but I like them. Granted I don't work out in a gym where you might run afoul of odd-looking-footwear-rules, and I don't lift extremely heavy weights for squating and deadlifting. I do P90x at home and I used to do it barefoot, but the Five-Fingers give me much more grip on the carpet so I don't slip around. My balance has improved tremendously, I can only assume from working the feet muscles more. It isn't just the feet muscles being worked that has given you better balance. Your entire body is used for balance - feet, legs, trunk, arms, even your head. You've gone from something that has your feet strapped in and secure/stable to pretty much nothing supporting it so everything has to work a little harder now - in a good way. You are gaining much more proprioceptive/kinesthesia input (awareness of body position and movement in space) which provides information on how your body needs to adjust for balance - essentially better muscle control. I started wearing Five-fingers for two weeks now and I've noticed my upright posture has improved quite a bit even when sitting. After 3 days of all day general wear I had no issues so I decided to get aggressive and did a track workout. Calves started cramping up after about 2 miles of running which led to them being sore for a few days but not enough to prevent me from hiking all day 2 days later. I will caveat this though that I have done workouts barefoot on grass semi-regularly, am barefoot quite often, and often wear shoes that offer little support as well. I definitely recommend them at least for daily out and about wear. I will be paying close attention to anyone I know personally and patients I run into who wear them and report foot issues, I am betting it is two fold - too fast of progression wearing but the other half is likely joint dysfunction in the foot. |
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I really like my Five-Fingers. Haters gonna hate and all that, but I like them. Granted I don't work out in a gym where you might run afoul of odd-looking-footwear-rules, and I don't lift extremely heavy weights for squating and deadlifting. I do P90x at home and I used to do it barefoot, but the Five-Fingers give me much more grip on the carpet so I don't slip around. My balance has improved tremendously, I can only assume from working the feet muscles more. It isn't just the feet muscles being worked that has given you better balance. Your entire body is used for balance - feet, legs, trunk, arms, even your head. You've gone from something that has your feet strapped in and secure/stable to pretty much nothing supporting it so everything has to work a little harder now - in a good way. You are gaining much more proprioceptive/kinesthesia input (awareness of body position and movement in space) which provides information on how your body needs to adjust for balance - essentially better muscle control. I started wearing Five-fingers for two weeks now and I've noticed my upright posture has improved quite a bit even when sitting. After 3 days of all day general wear I had no issues so I decided to get aggressive and did a track workout. Calves started cramping up after about 2 miles of running which led to them being sore for a few days but not enough to prevent me from hiking all day 2 days later. I will caveat this though that I have done workouts barefoot on grass semi-regularly, am barefoot quite often, and often wear shoes that offer little support as well. I definitely recommend them at least for daily out and about wear. I will be paying close attention to anyone I know personally and patients I run into who wear them and report foot issues, I am betting it is two fold - too fast of progression wearing but the other half is likely joint dysfunction in the foot. Yea...that. 
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I wear Adidas Sambas Classic. The soles are very flat and hard. I actually notice a big difference doing things like running in place, jumping jacks or jumping rope to the point where I will move off of the harder rubber horse stall mat to the part of the floor that has foam flooring while Im warming up on lifting days (On cardio days I wear different shoes and they absorb a lot more of the impact). They aren't as cheap as Chucks (or as ugly  ) but they are cheaper than most of the lifting shoes I've seen.
http://www.adidas.com/us/product/mens-soccer-samba-classic-shoes/17214 |
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I wear Adidas Sambas Classic. The soles are very flat and hard. I actually notice a big difference doing things like running in place, jumping jacks or jumping rope to the point where I will move off of the harder rubber horse stall mat to the part of the floor that has foam flooring while Im warming up on lifting days (On cardio days I wear different shoes and they absorb a lot more of the impact). They aren't as cheap as Chucks (or as ugly ) but they are cheaper than most of the lifting shoes I've seen.
http://www.adidas.com/us/product/mens-soccer-samba-classic-shoes/17214 I've worn indoor soccer shoes for long periods of time in my life. these nanos are far, far superior. My wife is getting used to them and they, and I am LOVING them. |
| I like the Merrell Road and Trail gloves. I was running in them for a while until I tried sprinting after a 3 mile trail run and it caused stress fractures in my metatarsals. I wear my Merrill's on squat and dead days in the gym due to the 0mm drop... I was changing my running shoes between addidas marathon 10's, Nike Air Max, Nike Lunarglide 4's and the Merrell road gloves depending on what type of run I was planning for the day... Last weekend I bought a pair of Brooks Pure Flow's and absolutely LOVE them!! I like minimalist running but the lack of cushion was getting to me on any run over 3-4 miles. The pure flow's have a 4mm drop and awesome cushioning... Not too much... Not too little... Just enough(for me). I would definitely check out the Brooks pure line... I think a pair of pure cadence will be in my future. |
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What about these shoes?
Rogue shoes Yesterday was the first day with what for me was heavy squat (200Lb) plus my own fatass..I actually felt my addidas running shoes compact and squirm during lifts. Even 20 lbs lighter it didnt do it much. There was a post in another thread where somebody compared wearing running shoes to squatting on a mattress. I get it now..ugh 
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Quoted: What about these shoes? Rogue shoes Yesterday was the first day with what for me was heavy squat (200Lb) plus my own fatass..I actually felt my addidas running shoes compact and squirm during lifts. Even 20 lbs lighter it didnt do it much. There was a post in another thread where somebody compared wearing running shoes to squatting on a mattress. I get it now..ugh Oh I didn't realize you were looking for lifting shoes. Those a decent lower end shoes- I had some...they are not super durable. Lifting shoes get real expensive real fast, so if you're good with shoes that will not last forever under hard use, the Do-Wins are pretty good (Rogue shoes are just rebranded Do-Wins). You can also find the Pendlay branded Do-Wins on sale sometimes. The Nike Romeleos and Adipower lifting shoes are probably the best ones on the market...though you'll pay $200 for them. ETA- If you're JUST squatting the Rogues are probably fine. If you're Oly lifting too, that's much harder on shoes and I'd recommend sturdier shoes. |
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This was the alternative and bit cheaper. The rogue looks like it is has a taller heel though? I am not sure how critical this is though.
Other shoe |
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Quoted: This was the alternative and bit cheaper. The rogue looks like it is has a taller heel though? I am not sure how critical this is though. Other shoe I know some people that have those too. They seem to like them. For squats I'd say the Rogue or the cheaper Adidas are more than sufficient. I would recommend against using them for deadlifts...
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Quoted: whats the negatives on using them for deads? Increased range of motion, though it's not much. I shouldn't have said that in such a definite manner- some people prefer lifting shoes to deadlift in as they can recruit more quad in the lift. Some people hate them. I'm somewhere in the middle, but prefer without. You should try both ways and see what you prefer I suppose. |