Posted: 5/17/2012 7:15:23 AM EDT
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http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/article/no_chalk_allowed |
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hahahahahahah "Speaking of CrossFit, it has found its way into almost every gym, corporate or otherwise. Much like venereal disease, it spreads voraciously, is difficult to get rid of and can really ruin what should have been an enjoyable experience. Furthermore if not stopped in its tracks it can lead to hospitalization and/or personal disfigurement. " awesome. |
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Quoted: hahahahahahah "Speaking of CrossFit, it has found its way into almost every gym, corporate or otherwise. Much like venereal disease, it spreads voraciously, is difficult to get rid of and can really ruin what should have been an enjoyable experience. Furthermore if not stopped in its tracks it can lead to hospitalization and/or personal disfigurement. " awesome. It's interesting that with all the shenanigans by curl monkeys and morons in that article, THIS is the passage you quote...hmmm... Why the hard on for CF? I mean I know there are some douches that can make it tough for others to accept, but all in all it's a good program with good people and while we don't go for size, I'd place bets that I personally know a few guys that have lifts that rival even yours... So what's the deal? |
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Unwad your panties RoG. True crossfitters, the ones that treat it as the sport that it has become, are one thing. Crossfit fanboys and the ensuing fad is another, which breeds my contempt; as the fanboys scream as elitists that "We're the most hardcore, and our way is the only way." I poke fun at the later. As I've always said. Crossfit has come to be its own sport. It is like endurance strongman for littler guys. I've been humbled by some crossfit workouts, it's true. Though, even you have to admit, some crossfit workouts are just fucking retarded. I'm sure you could find many crossfitters that could outlift me (my numbers are pretty paltry compared to most amateur powerlifting federations)... but then again, they aren't me. They don't have my physical hindrances and aren't all as drug free as they would lead you to believe. Keep in mind RoG, I was a Crossfitter back in 2004-2008 and used it as conditioning for fighting... ETA: I'm sorry if my comment came across as harsh RoG, you're good people, and I don't want you to think I'm getting at anything otherwise. I just always poke fun at Crossfit, and probably always will (you little guys need to eat more sandwiches)  . Just don't take it personally. There are problems with all sports, hell Powerlifting is a f'n stupid sport, and seems to attract/breed some SERIOUSLY unhealthy competitors. Hell, it's easy as hell to do 3 reps of a heavy weight... hence all the obese as b'jesus bench pressers that can move 500+... Strongman (my true choice of poison) is disgustingly abusive to competitors as well. My maxes (prior to ACL surg #2): Single ply 775 Squat, 455 Bench, 701 Deadlift, and a 265 strict OHP Oly lifts: (power)clean: 250+ (don't play with big weights on ballistic movements anymore), snatch: ??? And for example, Rob Orlando can axle C&P 100lbs more than me... and weighs 60+lbs less than I do... |
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Quoted: Unwad your panties RoG. True crossfitters, the ones that treat it as the sport that it has become, are one thing. Crossfit fanboys and the ensuing fad is another, which breeds my contempt; as the fanboys scream as elitists that "We're the most hardcore, and our way is the only way." I poke fun at the later. As I've always said. Crossfit has come to be its own sport. It is like endurance strongman for littler guys. I've been humbled by some crossfit workouts, it's true. Though, even you have to admit, some crossfit workouts are just fucking retarded. I'm sure you could find many crossfitters that could outlift me (my numbers are pretty paltry compared to most amateur powerlifting federations)... but then again, they aren't me. They don't have my physical hindrances and aren't all as drug free as they would lead you to believe. Keep in mind RoG, I was a Crossfitter back in 2004-2008 and used it as conditioning for fighting... My panties aren't in a wad...I was genuinely curious why you always seem to be badmouthing it. There are some legit gripes with it, and you hit on a few. At any rate, I agree with you here...it certainly has become it's own sport, and yes, some CF wods are just plain stupid- in fact I mentioned that in a thread not long ago at all. I wasn't trying to say you're weak by any means, in fact I don't know what your numbers are but I do know that we have a few guys that lift some pretty good numbers even by amateur powerlifer standards...and weight less than 200# doing it. On another note, there was drug testing done at the conclusion of all the regionals this year, it will be interesting to see if anyone pops positive. Anyways, I'm not a fanboy, though I think CF has it's legit uses, I suppose I do get a little tired of the snide comments though. |
I don't know what is worse, the curl monkeys and spastic crossfitters, or the apparently one of only a few people who actaully know the right way to train, dress and act in a gym bThe whole "I follow the one true path of exercise and everyone else is filthy infidels" stuff just gets really old after awhile, regardles what camp it comes from.
Having spent 9 months FOB hopping throughout Iraq I learned to be pretty appreciative of having access to a weight room regardless of rules or enviornment. I really don't get what point the author is making, but I also couldn't stand to read the whole thing. |
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Quoted: I don't know what is worse, the curl monkeys and spastic crossfitters, or the apparently one of only a few people who actaully know the right way to train, dress and act in a gym bThe whole "I follow the one true path of exercise and everyone else is filthy infidels" stuff just gets really old after awhile, regardles what camp it comes from. Having spent 9 months FOB hopping throughout Iraq I learned to be pretty appreciative of having access to a weight room regardless of rules or enviornment. I really don't get what point the author is making, but I also couldn't stand to read the whole thing. What I think he's trying to say is that gyms now are based around gimmicks, fads, and shit out of Muscle Magazine and if you can find one that doesn't have anything which uses a cable, or don't have a bunch of idiots flexing in the mirror or rules against chalk or making loud noises then hold on to that membership with a death grip. My gym is so much like what he talks about. I really wish I had enough space for a power rack and enough ceiling space to put weight overhead. I can't find shit around here.
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The thing that pisses me off the most is that it's not just about 99% of gyms have shitty atmospheres and equipment. It's so much more than that. It's about the fucked up overall disrespect for anything resembling hard work, sacrifice, and progress.
I'm just gonna cut it off here because after several years in commercial gyms, I could probably rant for hours about ridiculous they and their clientele are. I've seen, literally, ONE, JUST ONE FUCKING PERSON who actually knew what they were doing. I worked in with him while he did good mornings, and we talked about powerlifting. It was a huge breath of fresh air. Ask 10,000 average male gym goers if they've ever heard of Smolov, Sheiko, high bar vs low bar, or Prowlers. You'd be lucky if you get 20 guys who know what any of those are. Fuck. the only thing that keeps me sane is that I have a spare room that I'm putting a power rack in 
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As long as it has an olympic barbell, power rack and plates, I can get some work done. There are some easy things that any commercial gym could do to cater to the hardcore crowd. A lifting platform doesn't take up that much space and it saves wear and tear on the floor. A couple good squat racks, pull up bar, dip station ... all gyms already have flat benches so that's covered. Simple. |
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I should add that the grungy little powerlifting dungeon I go to occasionally is much cleaner than the big chain gym I go to regularly. That's because the owner and customers take care of it. When a guy who can flip over cars tells you to make sure to put the weights back when you use his gym, you are inclined to obey. |
| I'm at a no chalk gym too. I used it for about a week before I was caught and they told me to stop. Cleaned up the chalk and proceeded to drop 495lbs on the floor a couple times. They got on me over that of course. I told them I needed chalk. They told me to use straps, that they would allow me to lift more, and that i could I even buy them from a kiosk inthe gym. Purchased and did a few sets with them. Soon decided that I hated them. My grip seemed worse and the straps kept slipping. Went to the shitter when my straps and a pocket knife. Frayed a little stitching here and there. After I finished my business, I went back to the power rack. Figured rack deads would accomplish my goal. Got up to 7 plates per side and the right strap let loose, making one hell of a racket and bringing the staff back to the corner. Dangled the torn fabric in there face, "Strap ripped!" They let me use chalk now, but I have to clean the bar off when I finish, which I never had a problem doing in the first place. |