Posted: 3/7/2012 7:36:29 AM EDT
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When people say they are avoiding sugars on thier diet, does that include fruits or only things like alcohol, breads, etc.?
For example I pack an apple, a banana, five or six big strawberries, a handful of grapes and maybe an orange to snack on through out the day. Am I doing myself more harm than good with this? |
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Quoted: When people say they are avoiding sugars on thier diet, does that include fruits or only things like alcohol, breads, etc.? For example I pack an apple, a banana, five or six big strawberries, a handful of grapes and maybe an orange to snack on through out the day. Am I doing myself more harm than good with this? Most of us do not cut out fruit- it is good for you. That being said, depending on your goals you may be eating too much fruit. If you're trying to lose weight, I'd probably cut back just a little or replace some of the higher sugar fruits with berries which are lower in sugar. If you're not trying to lose weight and you're happy where you are then I'd say you're fine and don't need to change anything... |
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When people say they are avoiding sugars on thier diet, does that include fruits or only things like alcohol, breads, etc.? For example I pack an apple, a banana, five or six big strawberries, a handful of grapes and maybe an orange to snack on through out the day. Am I doing myself more harm than good with this? Alcohol drops your blood sugar. Me, I avoid sweets, breads, pastas, sugary drinks, and potatoes (red potatoes aren't as bad). Unless you've got a weight or sugar issue, I wouldn't worry about your snacks. |
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For example I pack an apple, a banana, five or six big strawberries, a handful of grapes and maybe an orange to snack on through out the day. Am I doing myself more harm than good with this? Versus what? If you're eating what you describe versus donuts, snickers, twinkees, you're doing more good than harm. If you're comparing the above to strawberries, blueberries, and a small salad, you could be doing more harm, depending on activity level. Whether you buy the Paleo/Primal eating scheme or not, carbohydrate consumption should scale with activity level. Active and generally pleased with your weight or at least your weight trend, stay with what you have. Need to drop a few (like me), look for lower sugar options, fruit or otherwise. |
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When people say they are avoiding sugars on thier diet, does that include fruits or only things like alcohol, breads, etc.? For example I pack an apple, a banana, five or six big strawberries, a handful of grapes and maybe an orange to snack on through out the day. Am I doing myself more harm than good with this? If you didn't eat the fruit what would you replace it with? Would you be as satisfied? Even replacing them with a meal replacement bar and almonds can end up with you eating more calories than you are now. If you can sub in some lower sugar fruits like RoG mentioned or even some vegetables or leafy greens you could see a drop in sugar and calories. Ultimately you have to decide what makes you feel satisfied, to me getting your diet locked in is a lot of trail and error with a healthy understanding that some days you are going to eat a still feel hungry.. |
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There's just nothing in bread that is good for you or that you need. True, but I do miss it as a butter, jam, or cream cheese delivery device 
As I've cut sugar, my Scotch appreciation has gone way up. Just finished a 2 year old bottle of 12 year Balvenie Doublewood last month and now have 12 year old Macallan, Glen Livet, and a 16yo Lagavulin that I'm alternating between 
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Quoted: Quoted: There's just nothing in bread that is good for you or that you need. True, but I do miss it as a butter, jam, or cream cheese delivery device As I've cut sugar, my Scotch appreciation has gone way up. Just finished a 2 year old bottle of 12 year Balvenie Doublewood last month and now have 12 year old Macallan, Glen Livet, and a 16yo Lagavulin that I'm alternating between True story, I do occasionally indulge in bread but not too often these days. A good sourdough is tough to say no to. I love Macallan 12. If you love it too, then do yourself a favor and pick up Aberlour Abunadh sometime. It's amazing. I got to visit the distillery and picked up a couple rare bottlings
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There's just nothing in bread that is good for you or that you need. True, but I do miss it as a butter, jam, or cream cheese delivery device
As I've cut sugar, my Scotch appreciation has gone way up. Just finished a 2 year old bottle of 12 year Balvenie Doublewood last month and now have 12 year old Macallan, Glen Livet, and a 16yo Lagavulin that I'm alternating between True story, I do occasionally indulge in bread but not too often these days. A good sourdough is tough to say no to. I love Macallan 12. If you love it too, then do yourself a favor and pick up Aberlour Abunadh sometime. It's amazing. I got to visit the distillery and picked up a couple rare bottlings I'll add it to my list, but next up is Macallan 18. If you want smoky peat flavor, give the Lagavulin a go. It's like sipping a swamp fire, but in a good way. |
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There's just nothing in bread that is good for you or that you need. True, but I do miss it as a butter, jam, or cream cheese delivery device
As I've cut sugar, my Scotch appreciation has gone way up. Just finished a 2 year old bottle of 12 year Balvenie Doublewood last month and now have 12 year old Macallan, Glen Livet, and a 16yo Lagavulin that I'm alternating between True story, I do occasionally indulge in bread but not too often these days. A good sourdough is tough to say no to. I love Macallan 12. If you love it too, then do yourself a favor and pick up Aberlour Abunadh sometime. It's amazing. I got to visit the distillery and picked up a couple rare bottlings I'll add it to my list, but next up is Macallan 18. If you want smoky peat flavor, give the Lagavulin a go. It's like sipping a swamp fire, but in a good way. 
Balvenie is my choice, but I may to give some of these a try. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's just nothing in bread that is good for you or that you need. True, but I do miss it as a butter, jam, or cream cheese delivery device As I've cut sugar, my Scotch appreciation has gone way up. Just finished a 2 year old bottle of 12 year Balvenie Doublewood last month and now have 12 year old Macallan, Glen Livet, and a 16yo Lagavulin that I'm alternating between True story, I do occasionally indulge in bread but not too often these days. A good sourdough is tough to say no to. I love Macallan 12. If you love it too, then do yourself a favor and pick up Aberlour Abunadh sometime. It's amazing. I got to visit the distillery and picked up a couple rare bottlings I'll add it to my list, but next up is Macallan 18. If you want smoky peat flavor, give the Lagavulin a go. It's like sipping a swamp fire, but in a good way. My wife got me the 18 upon my return from AFG...it is incredible, but I can't stress how good the Abunadh is! ETA- I do have the Lag, it's good but a little too peaty for everyday drinking.
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Going on the same derailing theme I have been brewing some good beer recently. I was amazed at how much sugar and flour-ish stuff goes into it. Its like drinking bread  You have to account for fermentation, though. Beer, even a rich home brew, can tank blood sugar due to the alcohol content. One endocrinologist even told me of a diabetic patient she had that, being unable to afford insulin, regulated her sugar with beer - a practice that, while not recommended, she admitted worked. |
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I personally avoid all added sugars. High fructose corn syrup is especially bad for you. There is a presentation on youtube called "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" where a professor (Luttig?) explains this in detail.
Like Roland and others have already said, if you want to gain some muscle weight and/or are doing demanding activities such as lifting weights or Crossfit, then don't be afraid to eat a lot of fruit. If you want to lose weight, I would cut back on the fruits. As an aside, sometime you should pick up a box of processed "food" at your grocery store and read the ingredients. I was shocked to discover just how much sugar there was in the junk. Sugar. HFCS. Corn sugar. And so on. It's almost like there is a conspiracy to destroy our health by feeding us garbage. But this isn't GD, so I won't go there on this thread
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