Posted: 2/8/2012 3:02:54 PM EDT
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I want a six pack. I'm 5'8'' 182 lbs. I have been working out for the last 5-6 months. I still have a little bit of a guy, but my mid and upper stomach is starting to show my abdominals. Is this possible while still having some fat in my stomach? Or am I out of my mind? Next, I know abs start at the dinner plate. I'm going to list the regular foods I eat, can you guys tell me if there is anything I should cut out? Keep in mind, I still have fat on me that I need to lose.
Veggies (Raw usually) bananas (before or after work out) oranges lean chicken, nothing on it peanuts, almonds. can I consume to many nuts a day? If I eat a lot of nuts, will all the fat in them turn to flab? Or do good fats break down differently than saturated fats? This is where I am most confused. london broil whole eggs olive oil occasionally bacon I try and avoid bread all together, but sometimes I have whole wheat bread. I cut the fat off of meat before I cook it. Is it bad I normally eat the same thing every day? Last question, if I am eating clean, can I consume to many calories and actually gain weight (fat)? Or would I gain muscle as a result of this? I lift 5-6 days a week. All the power lifts are in the begining of the week. Thanks. |
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What's your waist measure? At your height, anything over 34" is probably going to be too much. I'm 5'9" with a thin frame. I have to keep my waist under 31" or my abs are lost under the fat. Depending on how you're built, you can get away with a bigger waist.
As you know, abs start at the table. I eat about 2/3 of what I want and still have to watch what I eat every damn day. It's a constant struggle, but it's worth it to some of us. |
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Primal diet + Crossfit will probably get you where you want to go.
Your diet doesn't look bad, except you may want to cut out the peanuts. (Other nuts are okay, but you might want to cut back on those and eat more meat, veggies, and eggs instead) Also, I would eliminate the wheat. |
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Primal diet + Crossfit will probably get you where you want to go. Your diet doesn't look, except you may want to cut out the peanuts. (Other nuts are okay, but you might want to cut back on those and eat more meat, veggies, and eggs instead) Also, I would eliminate the wheat. My diet doesn't look what? Good? Bad? Trainer I use at the gym says my frame is excellent because I'm "massive". Big chest, nothing in the stomach, big legs. My waist im not sure of. I know 38" are big on me. Maybe 36? That's a guess. |
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Primal diet + Crossfit will probably get you where you want to go. Your diet doesn't look, except you may want to cut out the peanuts. (Other nuts are okay, but you might want to cut back on those and eat more meat, veggies, and eggs instead) Also, I would eliminate the wheat. My diet doesn't look what? Good? Bad? Trainer I use at the gym says my frame is excellent because I'm "massive". Big chest, nothing in the stomach, big legs. My waist im not sure of. I know 38" are big on me. Maybe 36? That's a guess. It doesn't look bad |
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In the studies I've seen there's really no such thing as bad fats (except trans fats). Fats are good for you, just make sure the Omega-3 balance out the 6s (think fish, fish oil, grassfed meat). I got a six pack (wasn't my goal, but more of a side benefit) from doing primal and crossfit + heavy lifts. You're actually pretty primal already...try losing the rest of the wheat, and maybe cut back on fruit too, it's good for you but you can have too much if you're trying to lower BF. Remember, sugar spikes insulin and tells the body to hold on to fat. All in all it may just take some experimentation as far as macronutrient ratio and overall calories.
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peanuts, almonds. can I consume to many nuts a day?
On nuts. Someone else can get into peanuts v actual nuts as i am not that well versed. anyway, if you are a nut eating i recommend occasionally weighting out the nuts you are going to eat and doing the calorie math. Nuts are calorically dense and its not that hard to reach for 80 calories worth of almonds but actually grab 150 calories , eat them they grab a few more and pretty soon have just downed a few hundred calories of nuts absentmindedly. Do this a few times and you can eat your potential loss for the day. |
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Quoted: You can eat too many cals even eating clean. Especially if you are going real heavy on nuts. Too many cals mean fat, whether clean or dirty. Really need to get waist size down more to see more abs. Bigger, stronger abs show sooner, but can add to waist size. Yes, and you can VERY quickly overeat nuts. They're great, but you have to be very very careful not to overeat them. |
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Alright, i'll measure them out in the mornings. Are peanuts bad for you? And what about cold cuts? I mean real cold cuts the deli cuts in front of you, not the ones from like hillshire farms. Oh, I weighted myself today, I weight 179, not 182. cold cuts: It depends. "cold cuts" typically refers to loaf style manufactured or cured meats or sausages. These are SUPER fatty and probably not good for you if you are trying to cut weight. some of the primal guys like things like pepperoni and the like for its fatty energy, but in small doses. stuff like Balonga or cappicola is loaded with salt and fat. If you are referring to deli meat like shaved turkey, ham and roast beef: Its better, but not ideal. Even the quality stuff usually has all kinds of shit added to it. Read some labels. Usually that stuff is sliced from recon meat loaves with all kinds of stuff other than meat in it. End of the day, its not terrible, but not as good as whole meats. Its also expensive as hell for anything of decent quality. There are some great in home lunch meat preparations that give you (almost) the convenience of deli meat without the cost or preservatives. I roast whole chickens, pick them clean, and mash it up a little. its great cold, on salads or just as a snack. Also, pork loin is 2$ a lb. roast, slice thin, BOOM. homemade deli meat |
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Specific foods are not interesting. Its about macro nutrient ratios and calories. I know people with 5-6% body fat who eat ice cream several times a week, and get drunk at least twice a month. Don't buy into the clean eating bullshit. Its not important for body composition. |
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Hi,, Specific foods are not interesting. Its about macro nutrient ratios and calories. I know people with 5-6% body fat who eat ice cream several times a week, and get drunk at least twice a month. Don't buy into the clean eating bullshit. Its not important for body composition. That's been my story. Always the fat kid growing up, I got into weight lifting in my late teens. I spent countless hours in the gym trying to lift and "diet" to get cut. It wasn't till my mid 30's, and buying a road bike, did I become pretty lean. I've pretty much stopped working out unless it's off-season(winter), and eat about 70% of my calories in carbs. I ride roughly 7-9+ hours per week. I do keep a rough estimate of my caloric intake, and my power meter keeps a pretty exact amount of calories I burn. I'm probably not as ripped as some of the proclaimed diet and fitness experts here in this forum, but it works for me: 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm probably not as ripped as some of the proclaimed diet and fitness experts here in this forum, but it works for me:Still butthurt about the cereal I see. Nope. Envious? Not even a little, why should I be? You say "nope" but you are clearly upset about it still otherwise you wouldn't be referencing it. I've posted pics of myself before, I have nothing to be jealous about if that's what you're hinting at.
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I'm probably not as ripped as some of the proclaimed diet and fitness experts here in this forum, but it works for me:
Still butthurt about the cereal I see. Nope. Envious? Not even a little, why should I be? You say "nope" but you are clearly upset about it still otherwise you wouldn't be referencing it. I've posted pics of myself before, I have nothing to be jealous about if that's what you're hinting at. Listen - the OP was asking about abs. Another poster that I originally quoted basically said it comes down to macro nutrients and calories. I agreed with the poster, offering my personal opinion/actions - just like he (the OP ) was looking for. Then you come along and jack his thread up with some bullshite from a prior thread of ours. I have nothing against you - we had a disagreement in the other thread. This is a new thread. Keep the contents of the other thread there, and don't fuck up this one? |
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Hi,, Specific foods are not interesting. Its about macro nutrient ratios and calories. I know people with 5-6% body fat who eat ice cream several times a week, and get drunk at least twice a month. Don't buy into the clean eating bullshit. Its not important for body composition. Oooo, I disagree. That is, I disagree with your statement only when made as a broad generalization, as written. I have been my own guinea pig for a couple decades, and my body will not get lean if I don't eat clean, saaay, 95% of the time. I presume there are others like me, as well as those who can gobble up ice cream, rim job berries and beer twice a month while staying lean. I think it's important for a person to consider your macronutrient ratio-calorie-centric approach, as well as the clean eating model when trying to find what works for their body. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Hi,, Specific foods are not interesting. Its about macro nutrient ratios and calories. I know people with 5-6% body fat who eat ice cream several times a week, and get drunk at least twice a month. Don't buy into the clean eating bullshit. Its not important for body composition. Oooo, I disagree. That is, I disagree with your statement only when made as a broad generalization, as written. I have been my own guinea pig for a couple decades, and my body will not get lean if I don't eat clean, saaay, 95% of the time. I presume there are others like me, as well as those who can gobble up ice cream, rim job berries and beer twice a month while staying lean. I think it's important for a person to consider your macronutrient ratio-calorie-centric approach, as well as the clean eating model when trying to find what works for their body. I missed that post earlier, I agree with you Mudguts. SOME people can get away with what mat-ar describes, but I'd say those people are the minority. Spiking insulin all the time triggers body to hold onto fat. Even with what mat-ar says- ice cream twice a week say and drinking a couple times a month, that can still equal "clean eating'' for 90%+ of the time and one can still get pretty lean on that... Now, somebody who eats cereal, pizza pockets, and pasta all the time? Doubt they are going to lean unless they are genetically gifted. Clean eating is FAR from bullshit.
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My degree is in nutrition and fitness I compete in bodybuilding and powerlifting Message me and i can get u all the info you need Why would you not share with the rest of us? Is that not what a forum is for? Pardon me for the call out, but I think most us here in the SD&F forum are highly interested in ideas, even conflicting ones. 
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Alright, i'll measure them out in the mornings. Are peanuts bad for you? And what about cold cuts? I mean real cold cuts the deli cuts in front of you, not the ones from like hillshire farms. Oh, I weighted myself today, I weight 179, not 182. You're talking water weight here. Day to day fluctuations should be 5-6 pounds. Between dropping a deuce, drinking copious amounts of water, normal eats and drinks, sweating... I wouldn't worry about it too much. |
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You know as I well as I that you referenced the other thread first. Why don't you take your own advice and stop being a cry baby. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Hey, I'm just gonna throw in that I'm a carbs fan too.  
All bodies just metabolize differently. I think we can all agree on that. |
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My degree is in nutrition and fitness I compete in bodybuilding and powerlifting Message me and i can get u all the info you need Why would you not share with the rest of us? Is that not what a forum is for? Pardon me for the call out, but I think most us here in the SD&F forum are highly interested in ideas, even conflicting ones. Posts like that always ping my "trying to sell bullshit" meter. |
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Alright, i'll measure them out in the mornings. Are peanuts bad for you? And what about cold cuts? I mean real cold cuts the deli cuts in front of you, not the ones from like hillshire farms. Oh, I weighted myself today, I weight 179, not 182. You're talking water weight here. Day to day fluctuations should be 5-6 pounds. Between dropping a deuce, drinking copious amounts of water, normal eats and drinks, sweating... I wouldn't worry about it too much. Nah. I weight myself once a week. I told you what I weighted in my OP like 7-10 days after I weighted in, then did another weight in the day after I made my OP. |