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1/20/2011 4:50:49 PM EDT
Anyone have any experience with using Jac3d?. I usually work out after work and could use more energy.

1/20/2011 5:04:59 PM EDT
[#1]
I've had better luck with BSN NO-Xplode.

Just be careful with timing to avoid sleepless nights.
1/20/2011 5:12:24 PM EDT
[#2]
I use it...Grape Bubblegum tastes like a sweet tart...two scoops is where Im at right now...I recommend it.
1/20/2011 5:37:57 PM EDT
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I use it...Grape Bubblegum tastes like a sweet tart...two scoops is where Im at right now...I recommend it.


This.

Only side effect i have seen posted is Mr. Wang looking smaller until you flush it out of your system.  Haven't measured, but there is a fair amount of internet scuttlebutt related to it.

Works very well for me.  Clean jitter free energy, intense focus, not much "pump" like Superdump, NO Xplode or White Flood.  2 scoops is fairly light on the Beta A tingles but it is still noticeable.




1/20/2011 7:08:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Start small and work up.  I used a little too much at first and was tingling all over and couldn't stop pacing in the gym between sets.  It definitely has its benefits though.
1/20/2011 7:38:28 PM EDT
[#5]
It works ok but I prefer BSN N.O. XPLODE.  The Jack 3d is ok for giving you energy but the N.O. gives energy and makes my veins huge.  It is great during a workout.  Just don't take it too late or you will be up all night.
1/20/2011 8:14:43 PM EDT
[#6]
I've used it for the past 3 weeks. At first I felt it work, my face and hands timgled but I'm up to 2 scopes and now I don't really notice anything. Maybe it works more on what you think it will do or maybe I just need to take a break from it to lower my tolerance.
1/20/2011 11:26:28 PM EDT
[#7]
As others have stated it keeps you up at night if taken late in the evening.  I hated feeling like I was on crack every night.  I am now using White Flood and very pleased with the results.
1/21/2011 5:43:38 AM EDT
[#8]
I take Cytosport's Fast Twitch caffeine free.  No worries about the caffeine buzz/crash, but it helps get the blood flowing and provides more endurance during a workout.



If you have problems with energy during a workout, sometimes all you need is more hydration and some carbs.  Hydrate until you are pissing clear.  Then take your Fast Twitch before and during your workout, or just Cytomax during.  I crash and burn on carbs like dextrose and waxy maize, but Cytomax is utterly amazing.  Gets in your system fast, but doesn't burn out quickly.  Fast Twitch contains some of the same carb mix.



If you want to go au natural, eat a tablespoon or two of honey before a workout.  God's wonder carb.
1/25/2011 4:15:17 AM EDT
[#9]
I liked it.  Had crazy workouts at 3 scoops.  I thought Superpump was better in the "pump" department though.  I like white flood too, but I really really like Dymataize X-pand X-treme Pump.  Cleaner energy without the violent crash from jack3d, and excellent pumps.
1/25/2011 8:13:55 AM EDT
[#10]
I prefer White flood over jack3d. Jack3d made my head tingle a little too much for my liking. I've been taking White flood for well over a year and can say I still get pumped from 1.5 scoops. I integrated green mag into it though and will sip throughout my workout.
1/25/2011 9:01:35 PM EDT
[#11]

read a bit about all of the pw supplements and am thinking about buying some white flood.  anyone have a site they buy from that's GTG and have cheaper prices?

also thinking about getting some ON pro complex to go along with it
1/26/2011 4:42:41 AM EDT
[#12]
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read a bit about all of the pw supplements and am thinking about buying some white flood.  anyone have a site they buy from that's GTG and have cheaper prices?

also thinking about getting some ON pro complex to go along with it


Fox supplements.com and supplement warehouse.com have good prices
1/26/2011 6:39:33 AM EDT
[#13]
Bodybuilding.com
1/26/2011 3:07:35 PM EDT
[#14]

thanks
1/26/2011 3:19:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Best Flavor?
1/26/2011 8:08:49 PM EDT
[#16]
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Best Flavor?


They all taste a little weird -but White Flood's fruit punch is pretty good.
1/27/2011 11:59:26 AM EDT
[#17]
Guess I'm specificly wondering about flavors of Jack3d, about to order a can to check it out, but it seems there's always that one flavor of any health product that tastes nasty. Just trying to avoid it.
1/28/2011 9:01:04 PM EDT
[#18]
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Guess I'm specificly wondering about flavors of Jack3d, about to order a can to check it out, but it seems there's always that one flavor of any health product that tastes nasty. Just trying to avoid it.


cant go wrong with grape
1/30/2011 7:51:14 AM EDT
[#19]
Works great- I do an entire body workout and follow that with cardio- usualy jogging. The stuff works and I don't tire out. Not to be used every day and only max use of 5 days per week...
1/30/2011 1:58:05 PM EDT
[#20]
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read a bit about all of the pw supplements and am thinking about buying some white flood.  anyone have a site they buy from that's GTG and have cheaper prices?

also thinking about getting some ON pro complex to go along with it


I bought some White Flood for the first time a couple of weeks ago.  I would rather go with the Jack3d, as it seems to give me more energy.
2/5/2011 1:00:00 PM EDT
[#21]
I tried some of this stuff yesterday.  I "felt" like I had energy, but didn't actually have any.  I couldn't even do the normal weights in my routine.  Halfway through my workout I was almost completely gassed, by the end of my work out I wanted to go home and go to sleep.
2/8/2011 12:12:57 PM EDT
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I tried some of this stuff yesterday.  I "felt" like I had energy, but didn't actually have any.  I couldn't even do the normal weights in my routine.  Halfway through my workout I was almost completely gassed, by the end of my work out I wanted to go home and go to sleep.




Eat more.  Hydrate fully.  Drink Cytomax during your workout.





Stimulants don't give you more energy.  They can only help you reach your potential.  Energy comes from your diet and lifestyle.
FYI:  The guys at bodybuilding.com are raving about Pump-bol and Ultima as the two best preworkouts currently.  Pump-bol is lower stim and Ultima is stim free.
 
2/8/2011 12:39:00 PM EDT
[#23]
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I tried some of this stuff yesterday.  I "felt" like I had energy, but didn't actually have any.  I couldn't even do the normal weights in my routine.  Halfway through my workout I was almost completely gassed, by the end of my work out I wanted to go home and go to sleep.

Eat more.  Hydrate fully.  Drink Cytomax during your workout.

Stimulants don't give you more energy.  They can only help you reach your potential.  Energy comes from your diet and lifestyle.


FYI:  The guys at bodybuilding.com are raving about Pump-bol and Ultima as the two best preworkouts currently.  Pump-bol is lower stim and Ultima is stim free.
 


I'm no rookie.  I was comparing my experience with Jacke3d with what I normally do at the gym.  The only thing I did different was take the Jack3d before my workout instead of just drinking a bunch of caffeine.  Everything seemed harder to do, and when I tried to do my first set of sitting shoulder presses, I had to drop from 115# dumbbells to 110# dumbbells for my first set.  I couldn't even get the 115# dumbbells off my shoulders and normally I do 8 reps.  I could barely do 6 reps with the 110# dumb bells.

Now the Jack3d taken about a 1/2 before I leave for the gym and chugging down some pepsi max right before I leave has me bouncing off the walls when I get to the gym.
2/8/2011 1:08:06 PM EDT
[#24]
I just started a DIY pre-workout shake. Just started as in yesterday, so i can hardly testify as to effectiveness, but if my first experience was any indication its going to work out nicely. cost is about the same, but you can mix your drink per your requirements

unflavored whey
creatine
beta alanine
bcaas
caffeine powder
and a little dextrose

tastes bad, still working on that part. My first workout with this stuff was absolutely killer, and im about to mix one up and head to the gym, so we shall see.

In the future i plan on experimenting with a complex carb version (sans the protein) for long runs and a stim/dextrose free mega-protein post lifting recipe as well.
2/8/2011 2:20:21 PM EDT
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I just started a DIY pre-workout shake. Just started as in yesterday, so i can hardly testify as to effectiveness, but if my first experience was any indication its going to work out nicely. cost is about the same, but you can mix your drink per your requirements

unflavored whey
creatine
beta alanine
bcaas
caffeine powder
and a little dextrose

tastes bad, still working on that part. My first workout with this stuff was absolutely killer, and im about to mix one up and head to the gym, so we shall see.

In the future i plan on experimenting with a complex carb version (sans the protein) for long runs and a stim/dextrose free mega-protein post lifting recipe as well.


What do you think of liquid flavoring for it, like what is available with Biotest's stuff?  I have an extra bottle of various flavors here if you want to try it.
2/8/2011 5:16:45 PM EDT
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I just started a DIY pre-workout shake. Just started as in yesterday, so i can hardly testify as to effectiveness, but if my first experience was any indication its going to work out nicely. cost is about the same, but you can mix your drink per your requirements

unflavored whey
creatine
beta alanine
bcaas
caffeine powder
and a little dextrose

tastes bad, still working on that part. My first workout with this stuff was absolutely killer, and im about to mix one up and head to the gym, so we shall see.

In the future i plan on experimenting with a complex carb version (sans the protein) for long runs and a stim/dextrose free mega-protein post lifting recipe as well.


What do you think of liquid flavoring for it, like what is available with Biotest's stuff?  I have an extra bottle of various flavors here if you want to try it.


Today i flavored it with one of those crystal light packets intended for use in bottled water. It was pleasantly surprising. yesterday i tried an unsweetened fruit punch mix and it tasted like super-aids. the crystal light worked well, raspberry lemonade flavor. It tasted about like the sample of O.N. aminofuel they sent me with my order. I am going to try a Publix brand lemonade crystal light knock off tomorrow.
2/9/2011 7:05:45 AM EDT
[#27]
I just started using jack3d... its great, no jitteriness but I can definitely feel the energy there.  I recommend the lemon lime flavor.
2/10/2011 9:43:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.
2/11/2011 6:08:42 AM EDT
[#29]
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Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.


Whats so dangerous about it?  What side effects have you had?
2/11/2011 6:27:36 AM EDT
[#30]
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Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.


Whats so dangerous about it?  What side effects have you had?


Fatigue, impotence, loss of libido, nausea, anxiety, heart palpitations, heat flashes, nervousness, confusion, painful joints are just a few that really bothered me.
2/11/2011 11:12:11 AM EDT
[#31]
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Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.


Whats so dangerous about it?  What side effects have you had?


Fatigue, impotence, loss of libido, nausea, anxiety, heart palpitations, heat flashes, nervousness, confusion, painful joints are just a few that really bothered me.


Wow... that sucks.  Sorry to hear that.
2/11/2011 11:14:44 AM EDT
[#32]
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Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.


Whats so dangerous about it?  What side effects have you had?


Fatigue, impotence, loss of libido, nausea, anxiety, heart palpitations, heat flashes, nervousness, confusion, painful joints are just a few that really bothered me.


Wow... that sucks.  Sorry to hear that.


No need to apologize, it just doesn't work harmoniously with my body. Just my experience with it, in comparison to others.
2/11/2011 6:56:49 PM EDT
[#33]
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Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.


Whats so dangerous about it?  What side effects have you had?


Fatigue, impotence, loss of libido, nausea, anxiety, heart palpitations, heat flashes, nervousness, confusion, painful joints are just a few that really bothered me.


Wow... that sucks.  Sorry to hear that.


No need to apologize, it just doesn't work harmoniously with my body. Just my experience with it, in comparison to others.


What's your favorite besides ECA? All the ones i try work for a day or two and then nothing but a lot of the side effects you mentioned. im at the point to where i think PWS are bullshit, i can do just as much or more without them


2/11/2011 9:06:20 PM EDT
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Do NOT used Jack3d.

I am giving or throwing the rest of mine away tomorrow.  I have gone through plenty of pre-workout supplements (all the popular ones (NO-Xplode, NO-Shotgun, Superpump 250, plenty of mixes and diet pills and other shit), and none of them had so many side effects as Jack3d.  Been supplementing it for about 3 weeks, and while the intensity of the first few times you use it is pretty nice, it starts to wear off fast; anymore I just feel jittery, power-less, anxious, no emotion whatsoever and complete loss of libido.  It's just fucked me up the last time, ever. I'd burn this shit if I didn't know a ton of celibate bastards who take it like cocaine.

ECA is safer, cheaper, more effective and has no side effects when done properly.  It's the only pre-workout stack worth a damn. That and Rockstars.  I am going back to ECA tomorrow.

Lesson learned; just because it's sold by GNC doesn't mean it's safe.


Whats so dangerous about it?  What side effects have you had?


Fatigue, impotence, loss of libido, nausea, anxiety, heart palpitations, heat flashes, nervousness, confusion, painful joints are just a few that really bothered me.


Wow... that sucks.  Sorry to hear that.


No need to apologize, it just doesn't work harmoniously with my body. Just my experience with it, in comparison to others.


What's your favorite besides ECA? All the ones i try work for a day or two and then nothing but a lot of the side effects you mentioned. im at the point to where i think PWS are bullshit, i can do just as much or more without them




NO-Xplode wasn't bad, it's just way expensive, and requires a LOT of powder; 3 scoops needs like 20fl. oz. of water to dissolve in.
2/12/2011 2:15:25 PM EDT
[#35]
No matter which pre-workout supplement you choose -its important to cycle off every 6-8 weeks for about month. Doing so reduces tolerance build-up and allows the body to cleanse itself.