Posted: 3/10/2010 1:15:56 PM EDT
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I workout in a Crossfit Gym 5 days a week. I hike on the weekends. I cannot lose a fucking pound to save my life. I stay right at 230-235lb like a rock. My diet isnt bad, I eat high protein, low carb.
Should I try a couple of weeks of LISS cardio on the treadmill in the mornings for 45 minutes or so to get a bit more calorie burn? If not, I am going to just sew my mouth shut and lose weight that way. I really don't give a shit about body composition at this point. I have a weight I cannot exceed, period. For the record, I am 6'4". I need to weigh about 210-215 pounds max, and I have 8 weeks to get there. Yes, this is a rant 
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| I'm never a proponent of fad dieting, fasting, or keeping food from replenishing your body in any way. Crossfit is excellent for working out, but it was never designed for weight loss. Your suggestion is probably the best bet: at least 30 min of cardio a day. And it never hurts to try. |
| You're probably eating more calories than you think. There is no way you can deny it, a negative calorie balance will lead to weight lose. Exercise burns only a small fraction of the total calories burned in a day. Now, exercise with a healthy eating does have a high relationship to keeping weight off. |
| how many times are you eating per day? i try to eat something every 2-3 hours, even if it's only a piece of fruit or a clif bar. it seems to keep my metabolism up. this has helped my wife and several friends drop some weight. i do agree w/ Karab about not denying your body food; i think of it as fuel. YMMV. |
| 5 days a week? are you sure you are not over training? If you are not giving your muscles a chance to grow, you will never hit that tipping point of musle ratio to fat loss. Another thing to consider is that you are replacing fat loss with muscle gain. The scale may not show a change but you may have lost some body fat. Do not rely on the scale as an indicator unto itself. Thats my advice ymmv. |
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Eh, Im not over training. And even with Crossfit its at least 30 minutes of hard work a workout. Im going to start rowing more before workouts while I wait for the rest of the class to show up. I give myself 1-2 rest days per week.
Maybe I am eating more than what I need, but what the fuck do I need? Everytime I pick an arbitrary number as a calorie goal, most think its too little, etc. I will figure this out, its just frustrating. I have been training and losing weight for over 28 months now, so Im used to challenges. Its just this last fucking bit that is pissing me off. |
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Eh, Im not over training. And even with Crossfit its at least 30 minutes of hard work a workout. Im going to start rowing more before workouts while I wait for the rest of the class to show up. I give myself 1-2 rest days per week. Maybe I am eating more than what I need, but what the fuck do I need? Everytime I pick an arbitrary number as a calorie goal, most think its too little, etc. I will figure this out, its just frustrating. I have been training and losing weight for over 28 months now, so Im used to challenges. Its just this last fucking bit that is pissing me off. My first guess would be too many calories in, especially of protein since you said high protein, low carb diet. How much of each macronutrient are you consuming daily? |
| A little high but pretty good. Getting down closer to 15% is tough. You're going to have to watch what you're eating really close. Increasing your cardio time isn't going to do a lot but crossfit for 30 min is pretty short. Adding some cardio time to that day with some extra core can help but it still comes down to calories in vs calories out. |
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A little high but pretty good. Getting down closer to 15% is tough. You're going to have to watch what you're eating really close. Increasing your cardio time isn't going to do a lot but crossfit for 30 min is pretty short. Adding some cardio time to that day with some extra core can help but it still comes down to calories in vs calories out. Well, the whole crossfit workout with warmup, cooldown, and the strength and metcon work is 1 hour. I'm going to start adding more cardio....running and C2 rower. I'm going to revamp my diet and see if I can really cut hard for the next 45 days or so. I just have a hard time determining what a good calorie goal is. Im 6'4" 235-240lbs, and workout HARD 4 times per week, and Moderate another 2. 2500? 2000? |
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Quoted: Quoted: A little high but pretty good. Getting down closer to 15% is tough. You're going to have to watch what you're eating really close. Increasing your cardio time isn't going to do a lot but crossfit for 30 min is pretty short. Adding some cardio time to that day with some extra core can help but it still comes down to calories in vs calories out. Well, the whole crossfit workout with warmup, cooldown, and the strength and metcon work is 1 hour. I'm going to start adding more cardio....running and C2 rower. I'm going to revamp my diet and see if I can really cut hard for the next 45 days or so. I just have a hard time determining what a good calorie goal is. Im 6'4" 235-240lbs, and workout HARD 4 times per week, and Moderate another 2. 2500? 2000? Almost forgot, look into Crossfit endurance. It's a supplement to the regular Crossfit and you do it 1-3 times a week. That might help. And fasting is hardly a fad, it's been around for a while and there are some good health benefits that come with it when done properly...fat loss is just one of them. |
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Quoted: Well, all of this work is culminating to me shipping off to US Army basic 1 June. I feel that Xfit 5 times a week is a good preparation from what vets have told me. Having been in the USMC for 10 years, Crossfit is the best thing you can do to prepare for the mil. Like I said though, check out Crossfit Endurance, it would probably do you some good. |
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Well, all of this work is culminating to me shipping off to US Army basic 1 June. I feel that Xfit 5 times a week is a good preparation from what vets have told me. Having been in the USMC for 10 years, Crossfit is the best thing you can do to prepare for the mil. Like I said though, check out Crossfit Endurance, it would probably do you some good. I'm on the site right now. I'm starting a new schedule at my Xfit box. M, T, Rest, Thr, Fri, Sat (light). Sundays are usually my ruck days. I think I might add an Endurance WOD to my regular days 2-3 times a week and see what happens. |
| You need to get your weight down to Army standards to ship to basic? If so have you been tape tested. If you are overweight you get your neck and abdomen circumferance measured and if its an unnacceptable ratio, then its bad. Being overweight in the Army is ok, failing a tape test isnt. Of course I dont know if that applies to people just entering. |
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You need to get your weight down to Army standards to ship to basic? If so have you been tape tested. If you are overweight you get your neck and abdomen circumferance measured and if its an unnacceptable ratio, then its bad. Being overweight in the Army is ok, failing a tape test isnt. Of course I dont know if that applies to people just entering. I have no problem passing a tape test at MEPS. Ive done it twice now. I would like to lose another 20 pounds just to make running a bit easier. Hell, I know I will lose even more weight in Basic and WOCS, I would just like to trim a bit off beforehand. |
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Look into intermittent fasting maybe...I like it a lot. FUCK no! That's the LAST thing you want to do to lose weight permanently. The body interprets the lack of calories as starvation and shuts the metabolism way down. Sure, you'll lose weight, but then you'll put it right back on when returning to regular eating habits and will actually have a sling-shot effect and gain beyond the high point on the scale. Smaller meals, more frequently is almost always the key to getting your body to burn fat more efficiently. Take the number of hours a day you're awake and divide by three. That equals the number of meals you need to eat. Doing a paleolithic diet plan will keep your blood sugar levels stable and you will not be hungry with less calories per meal. If you REALLY want to jump start things, do a ketogenic diet for two weeks. It takes a lot of discipline but you'll completely deplete your muscles and liver of glycogen stores, force your body into ketosis, and start burning fat. I've lost as much as 9 lbs in one week doing this diet. It sucks, but I'm able to maintain my loss and build on it after I begin to resume a more normal diet. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=416753&highlight=ketogenic+diet That link explains the diet. It's not for everyone, but if you really want to shed some lbs, keep them off, and set the table for continued weight loss, it's worth the effort. **DISCLAIMER - the site is a good resource for body building, but that's not my interest at all. I visit there on occasion for other info but using gear to make myself bigger has zero appeal to me. If that's your thing, cool –– but there is a good deal of other info available that you may find pertinent.** |
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Quoted: Quoted: Look into intermittent fasting maybe...I like it a lot. FUCK no! That's the LAST thing you want to do to lose weight permanently. The body interprets the lack of calories as starvation and shuts the metabolism way down. Sure, you'll lose weight, but then you'll put it right back on when returning to regular eating habits and will actually have a sling-shot effect and gain beyond the high point on the scale. Smaller meals, more frequently is almost always the key to getting your body to burn fat more efficiently. Take the number of hours a day you're awake and divide by three. That equals the number of meals you need to eat. Doing a paleolithic diet plan will keep your blood sugar levels stable and you will not be hungry with less calories per meal. If you REALLY want to jump start things, do a ketogenic diet for two weeks. It takes a lot of discipline but you'll completely deplete your muscles and liver of glycogen stores, force your body into ketosis, and start burning fat. I've lost as much as 9 lbs in one week doing this diet. It sucks, but I'm able to maintain my loss and build on it after I begin to resume a more normal diet. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=416753&highlight=ketogenic+diet That link explains the diet. It's not for everyone, but if you really want to shed some lbs, keep them off, and set the table for continued weight loss, it's worth the effort. **DISCLAIMER - the site is a good resource for body building, but that's not my interest at all. I visit there on occasion for other info but using gear to make myself bigger has zero appeal to me. If that's your thing, cool –– but there is a good deal of other info available that you may find pertinent.** Do you even know what intermittent fasting is? Did you even look it up, or did you assume I meant everyday fasting for long periods? INTERMITTENT fasting works. It's not enough fasting to slow down the metabolism, but it will help reduce the resistance to insulin we build up which in turn helps the body burn fat. I've been below 10% BF while IFing. Maybe you're right though as I totallu ballooned back up to 12 or 13% once I stopped fasting so much (and ate too much junk during the holidays). So, uh, FUCK YES. ETA- before being rude, feel free to do a little research too  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=intermittent+fasting&aq=3&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=intermittent
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Quoted: OK, so I did some reading. I honestly can't find much that doesn't favor doing IF. I personally hate the idea and you won't find me doing it, but I have to concede the evidence points to IF as a means to dropping some lbs. . It's certainly not for everyone, and it also goes against much of the conventional wisdom. I definitely don't fast everyday, but I feel that a fast 2-4 times a week really helps burn some fat (especially if you do a short intense workout towards the end of a fast NOT a long one though). It's also a hell of a lot more convenient than eating every 3 hours... YMMV, but it's worth a try for many people, even if they discover it's not for them. Thanks for doing some reading and conceding there may be something to IF...not too many people will actually do that  |
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Quoted: Going into ketosis has side affects such as bad breath and BO. My bro had this happen when he was trying to cut weight (why he thought he could when he is already a stick, idk) He also had a funky smell to him. Gross I have cut to about 30-50 grams of carbs a day, which also really helps cut fat but you have to be on zero carbs for ketosis right? I like low carb diets, as long as you're still getting lots of veggies and some fruit... |
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Going into ketosis has side affects such as bad breath and BO. My bro had this happen when he was trying to cut weight (why he thought he could when he is already a stick, idk) He also had a funky smell to him. Gross
I have cut to about 30-50 grams of carbs a day, which also really helps cut fat but you have to be on zero carbs for ketosis right? I like low carb diets, as long as you're still getting lots of veggies and some fruit... Ketosis generally will happen under 20g of carbs. You can buy ketostix and pee on them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Going into ketosis has side affects such as bad breath and BO. My bro had this happen when he was trying to cut weight (why he thought he could when he is already a stick, idk) He also had a funky smell to him. Gross I have cut to about 30-50 grams of carbs a day, which also really helps cut fat but you have to be on zero carbs for ketosis right? I like low carb diets, as long as you're still getting lots of veggies and some fruit... Ketosis generally will happen under 20g of carbs. You can buy ketostix and pee on them. Huh...interesting. |
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Going into ketosis has side affects such as bad breath and BO. My bro had this happen when he was trying to cut weight (why he thought he could when he is already a stick, idk) He also had a funky smell to him. Gross
I have cut to about 30-50 grams of carbs a day, which also really helps cut fat but you have to be on zero carbs for ketosis right? I like low carb diets, as long as you're still getting lots of veggies and some fruit... Ketosis generally will happen under 20g of carbs. You can buy ketostix and pee on them. Huh...interesting. According to Lyle McDonald, < 100g of carbs will put you into ketosis. |
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Going into ketosis has side affects such as bad breath and BO. My bro had this happen when he was trying to cut weight (why he thought he could when he is already a stick, idk) He also had a funky smell to him. Gross
I have cut to about 30-50 grams of carbs a day, which also really helps cut fat but you have to be on zero carbs for ketosis right? I like low carb diets, as long as you're still getting lots of veggies and some fruit... Ketosis generally will happen under 20g of carbs. You can buy ketostix and pee on them. Huh...interesting. According to Lyle McDonald, < 100g of carbs will put you into ketosis. I do believe that its dependent on physical activity as well. I have done ketosis many times, and my experience is about 25 or less will solidly put me in ketosis verified by Ketostix. Im sure now that I PT like a madman it would be higher. I dont mind ketosis, and I have used it to lose weight before. I may just use it again. |
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Quoted: At 30-50, then I'm not sure if I was in ketosis or not...I did lose a lot of fat, so it's possible...Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Going into ketosis has side affects such as bad breath and BO. My bro had this happen when he was trying to cut weight (why he thought he could when he is already a stick, idk) He also had a funky smell to him. Gross I have cut to about 30-50 grams of carbs a day, which also really helps cut fat but you have to be on zero carbs for ketosis right? I like low carb diets, as long as you're still getting lots of veggies and some fruit... Ketosis generally will happen under 20g of carbs. You can buy ketostix and pee on them. Huh...interesting. According to Lyle McDonald, < 100g of carbs will put you into ketosis. I do believe that its dependent on physical activity as well. I have done ketosis many times, and my experience is about 25 or less will solidly put me in ketosis verified by Ketostix. Im sure now that I PT like a madman it would be higher. I dont mind ketosis, and I have used it to lose weight before. I may just use it again. |
| The thing is though is you need some carbs for a source of glucose as glucose gets the process going to burn fat. The Krebs Cycle needing acetyl-CoA to burn fats the liver makes glucose in gluconeogenesis and what isn't used goes back and made into ketones. Going into ketosis is a sure sign this is happening but it also means that you're going too far. So going low carb is ok but going in to ketosis is not a great idea as gluconeogenesis takes place, essentially burning amino acids from protein for energy. Also, as you might guess, going high protein though puts more stress on the liver and kidneys as they have more to filter. Again, why I say too much of anything usually isn't good. |