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11/27/2015 12:54:59 AM EDT
I am looking to buy a .308Win with a 20"bbl and 1:10 twist.  

I have seen all the threads asking for most accurate target rounds and see 168 and 175gr mentioned a lot.  What about the most accurate hunting rounds?  What type of bullet do you select for long range coyote, and what bullet to you select for larger game like elk?

What are the bullet weights that are handled by 1:10 twist?  What about 1:11 or 1:12?
11/27/2015 12:51:04 PM EDT
[#1]
168 Game King

1:12 handles up to 168 and with some altitude 175s.
1:11.25 was developed to be optimal for 175 FGMM
1:10 will handle anything up through 210, maybe a bit higher.
11/27/2015 1:15:48 PM EDT
[#2]
168 and 175 aren't necessarily the most accurate, they're capable of being pushed the furthest while still supersonic from the .308's relatively limited powder capacity. For elk, honestly I'd like a little more snot in the round. Something like a full house 180grain .30-06. If you can't do that then I'd go with an all copper bullet like Barnes TTSX in 150grain weight and keep the shots under 300m. For deer, good ol' 150grain pointed soft points or nosler ballistic tip or similar. For vermin and predators I like 110grain semi-jackets for stuff like squirrels and bunnies and 110grain Sierra HP's. The 110's do 3150fps from my 24" barrel which has the same effect as a hand grenade on soft targets. 150's I've taken more deer than you could fit in a semi trailer with. The Sierra 165 grain spire point boat tail is probably perfect for elk under 300m from a .308.
11/27/2015 1:54:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys!  That is exactly the info I needed.  I feel a lot more comfortable with the 1:10 now.

I'll give those 150's and 168's a try for my first tests.  I appreciate the help!
11/29/2015 10:50:45 AM EDT
[#4]
I picked up 10 boxes of ADI 165 grain gameking from sgammo for $15 a piece. The poi is the same at 100 with fgmm. I figured that the 165 grain gameking is just about perfect for everything.

They are not quite as accurate but still 1moa. Im glad it worked out this way as I can save the gamekings to hunt with, use matchings for little targets and zqi ball to plink with. Zqi shoots exactly 1 moa below my zero so its easy to hold or adjust.
11/29/2015 5:23:40 PM EDT
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I picked up 10 boxes of ADI 165 grain gameking from sgammo for $15 a piece. The poi is the same at 100 with fgmm. I figured that the 165 grain gameking is just about perfect for everything.

They are not quite as accurate but still 1moa. Im glad it worked out this way as I can save the gamekings to hunt with, use matchings for little targets and zqi ball to plink with. Zqi shoots exactly 1 moa below my zero so its easy to hold or adjust.
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Thanks.  Someone mentioned zqi as plinking ammo today.  I'll look into those rounds.
12/1/2015 7:35:52 AM EDT
[#6]
I tend to get 3moa from zqi fwiw
12/11/2015 12:49:28 PM EDT
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I tend to get 3moa from zqi fwiw
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I get the same.
12/11/2015 6:59:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Check out the new XLD ammo from Hornady. 1:10 will like a 178 gr bullets from Hornady. The 200 gr XLD-X looks promising as a serious knock down what ever it hit round. I reload and just got my order sent to me to try.
12/11/2015 7:27:51 PM EDT
[#9]
If you handload, the 168 gr win ballistic silver tip is as accurate as the 168smk.

And drops everything.

Txl
12/16/2015 6:27:50 PM EDT
[#10]
1:12 will handle 175, 17 and 185's just fine.

178gr and 185 are your best long range bullets for shooting distance.  

The .308 is not a good long range hunting gun for large game. It drops like a rock and doesn't possess a ton of energy at range.

Do you already have the gun in mind, or are you looking?
12/17/2015 2:38:37 PM EDT
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1:12 will handle 175, 17 and 185's just fine.

178gr and 185 are your best long range bullets for shooting distance.  

The .308 is not a good long range hunting gun for large game. It drops like a rock and doesn't possess a ton of energy at range.

Do you already have the gun in mind, or are you looking?
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Was looking at Savage 10/110 FCP in .308.  I figured with the right round it would be good at hunting out to 800yds for large game, and with the other right kind of round be accurate to 1000yds for paper precision.

Had considered 30-06 for hunting too.  Mostly looking at cost and availability of the rounds.  300 Win Mag is too expensive to shoot and too hard to find. Thought about 270 for distance, but wasn't sure it would have same power as 308.  Did you have another suggestion?
12/17/2015 11:17:46 PM EDT
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1:12 will handle 175, 17 and 185's just fine.

178gr and 185 are your best long range bullets for shooting distance.  

The .308 is not a good long range hunting gun for large game. It drops like a rock and doesn't possess a ton of energy at range.

Do you already have the gun in mind, or are you looking?
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Define long range thats its not good for energy. My savage 10T shooting a 178 A-max will hit @602.42 ft lbs @1000 yards with my current reload. Not that I plan on trying it but not bad energy. Would recommend something a little bigger if available though.