Posted: 1/21/2015 12:41:07 PM EDT
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Hey guys,
Got my hands on a german made mauser action. Never barreled, no idea of mfr date, was found at the bottom of a gun parts box at a relative's house. So I'm considering barreling it to give to my little brother who wants a bolt gun but is flat broke. I can get a barrel from midway for about $100 shipped. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/164357/green-mountain-barrel-mauser-series-3-308-winchester-f14-contour-1-in-10-twist-21-chrome-moly-in-the-white But I don't want to drop money on a reamer(not sure I want to rent one either as its uncharted territory to me) so I'm looking for a smith that can do the install on the cheap. Anyone have any decent suggestions that wont break the bank? seems most are so pricey that after the barrel and the service and shipping I could have just bought him a savage axis.... |
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Hey guys, Got my hands on a german made mauser action. Never barreled, no idea of mfr date, was found at the bottom of a gun parts box at a relative's house. So I'm considering barreling it to give to my little brother who wants a bolt gun but is flat broke. I can get a barrel from midway for about $100 shipped. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/164357/green-mountain-barrel-mauser-series-3-308-winchester-f14-contour-1-in-10-twist-21-chrome-moly-in-the-white But I don't want to drop money on a reamer(not sure I want to rent one either as its uncharted territory to me) so I'm looking for a smith that can do the install on the cheap. Anyone have any decent suggestions that wont break the bank? seems most are so pricey that after the barrel and the service and shipping I could have just bought him a savage axis.... Hate to break it to you...you will save money buying him a Savage Axis.. |
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Hey guys, Got my hands on a german made mauser action. Never barreled, no idea of mfr date, was found at the bottom of a gun parts box at a relative's house. So I'm considering barreling it to give to my little brother who wants a bolt gun but is flat broke. I can get a barrel from midway for about $100 shipped. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/164357/green-mountain-barrel-mauser-series-3-308-winchester-f14-contour-1-in-10-twist-21-chrome-moly-in-the-white But I don't want to drop money on a reamer(not sure I want to rent one either as its uncharted territory to me) so I'm looking for a smith that can do the install on the cheap. Anyone have any decent suggestions that wont break the bank? seems most are so pricey that after the barrel and the service and shipping I could have just bought him a savage axis.... Hate to break it to you...you will save money buying him a Savage Axis.. Fitting a Mauser Barrel requires some machine work on a Lathe. I built one from a bare action in this Thread. Without the skills and equipment, it will cost you more than buying a decent entry level Rifle. Hell, Mine cost me around $800 and my machine work was free. The Mauser actions are very desirable though, for hobbyists like me who like to build custom rifles. You would be better off auctioning the action on Gun Broker and putting the money towards an Axis or Ruger American. |
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I would send it to one of the barrel makers and have them fit it. I know that's not the cheap answer, but it takes a lot of maybes out of your equation. Hadn't thought of that! OP, I used an E.R. Shaw barrel, not premium, but a very good barrel, mine is consistently sub MOA, my best group so far, not repeated, was four shots into .69" at 300 yards. A happy day! 
You could ship your action to E.R. Shaw, buy a chrome moly barrel for $180, have it fitted to the action( including truing) for $120, have it blued for $120 Boyds has a very good Bold Trigger for under $40. You would end up with a semi custom gun for under $600 Just a thought. Be prepared for a long wait though. |
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I would send it to one of the barrel makers and have them fit it. I know that's not the cheap answer, but it takes a lot of maybes out of your equation. Why, when there is most likely a smith completely capable of doing this work within an hour of where you are sitting? |
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I would send it to one of the barrel makers and have them fit it. I know that's not the cheap answer, but it takes a lot of maybes out of your equation. Why, when there is most likely a smith completely capable of doing this work within an hour of where you are sitting? See above. |
Building a Mauser is not cheap. Ask me how I know  Even trying to build one as cheap as possible is not cheap. Pic of action? Particularly the top of the front ring and S/N. That would help to find out the manufacturer and approximate manufacture date. Not all German Mausers were made and built in Germany, however, Germany over sought the manufacturing of some firearms in Czechoslovakia, such as those with a DOU stamp
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Building a Mauser is not cheap. Ask me how I know
Even trying to build one as cheap as possible is not cheap. Pic of action? Particularly the top of the front ring and S/N. That would help to find out the manufacturer and approximate manufacture date. Not all German Mausers were made and built in Germany, however, Germany over sought the manufacturing of some firearms in Czechoslovakia, such as those with a DOU stamp This. Mauser actions were assembled and fitted by hand. Barreling them is not a screw together job. There is nothing cheap about it and trying to do it cheap ends up with a rifle that won't feed or shoot well. OP- what does it say on the action? Markings? If it is new and never fired, you may be able to sell it for enough to buy a rifle. |
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I have two of them.
I'll get pics and post them when I get home tonight if I remember. From memory the ONLY markings on them are "made in germany" and the SN which is "016" and "019" if memory serves..... I should note they are not just the receivers either. They have bolts and the magazine and one has a boyd stock with it, so pretty much everything but the barrel. |
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Quoted: I have two of them. I'll get pics and post them when I get home tonight if I remember. From memory the ONLY markings on them are "made in germany" and the SN which is "016" and "019" if memory serves..... I should note they are not just the receivers either. They have bolts and the magazine and one has a boyd stock with it, so pretty much everything but the barrel. A partial S/N for dating is kinda like you trying to find my address when I tell you I live on 1347 Main St |
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Interesting. I got nothing. If you got the coin, it would make a great action for a custom gun as long as nothing is bad. I know a guy that does great work. But like I said, it ain't cheap. My 1909 Mauser action cost me over 3k just for a barrel, sights, double square bridge, bolt handle, bolt release serrations, blind rear tank screw hole, rear tang flair, new drop box lever, and several other odds and ends. Just metal work and still in the white.
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Quoted: might throw one on gunbroker to see what it goes for. Depending on how much I might sell the other as well. Probably around $150. If it was early war era or pre-war, it could bring a bit more. A lot of guys out there looking for actions like to know who made it. |
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OP, those are some intriguing action, especially the way they were stored with care and the low serial numbers.
The pictures aren't sharp enough and with the grease it's hard to tell; Is the ring around the firing pin erosion from primers, or a bushing installed? A bushing would indicate some kind of refurb to me, erosion would be more indicative of surplus. They look very good though, and my impression is they would be premium actions for a custom build. I would really go over to Mauser Central, where there are some real experts and they are all about Mausers, and ask them in the tech forum or their GD. Find out what you have before making any moves. |
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The circular cutting on the bolt face is gas cutting from primer leakage....so, they have been fired and later had the barrel removed. Doesn't look too bad.
Full C Ring action, similar to a military Mauser. Looks like a nice action to build on if you had about 1500 bucks to put with it. If not, you could gunbroker it for a few hundred bucks and get a 700... |
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Quoted: The trigger marking is a Waffenampt.
The trigger guard has locking screws (some commercial actions had them, but most didn't) There are no proof marks. That's a scrubbed military action. Is there any way to recover the original receiver markings? X-Ray? Not particularly important on this particular action, but might be important on an antique. |
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Not really.
And it isn't an antique because all 98 Mausers were made during or after 1898 which is the cut-off.
Unless ATF changes the date like they were talking about. That's a WW2 vintage 98K that was scrubbed and remarked for sale to the post war sporterizing market |
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Quoted: Not really.
And it isn't an antique because all 98 Mausers were made during or after 1898 which is the cut-off.
Unless ATF changes the date like they were talking about. That's a WW2 vintage 98K that was scrubbed and remarked for sale to the post war sporterizing market You Canadian? The Canadian antique cut off is 1898. The US antique cutoff is 1 JAN 1899. So there are a handful of 98 actions that are legally antique in the US. |
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Quoted: You Canadian? The Canadian antique cut off is 1898. The US antique cutoff is 1 JAN 1899. So there are a handful of 98 actions that are legally antique in the US. Quoted: Quoted: Not really. And it isn't an antique because all 98 Mausers were made during or after 1898 which is the cut-off. Unless ATF changes the date like they were talking about. That's a WW2 vintage 98K that was scrubbed and remarked for sale to the post war sporterizing market You Canadian? The Canadian antique cut off is 1898. The US antique cutoff is 1 JAN 1899. So there are a handful of 98 actions that are legally antique in the US. No. The US cutoff date is Dec 31, 1898... 
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Quoted: Not really.
And it isn't an antique because all 98 Mausers were made during or after 1898 which is the cut-off.
Unless ATF changes the date like they were talking about. That's a WW2 vintage 98K that was scrubbed and remarked for sale to the post war sporterizing market You Canadian? The Canadian antique cut off is 1898. The US antique cutoff is 1 JAN 1899. So there are a handful of 98 actions that are legally antique in the US. No. The US cutoff date is Dec 31, 1898... Yes. Actions made on or before 31 DEC 1898 are antique in the US. Actions made on or after 1 JAN 1899 are Title 1 or Title 2 firearms. A mere handful of Gewehr 1898s were actually manufactured in 1898. Those particular actions are legally antiques in the US. |