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Posted: 10/2/2017 10:22:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WI_Bill]
Can I get some recommendations for scopes, magnification at least 18x, illuminated, FFP, ranging-type reticle?  I'm intetested in two price ranges, up to $900 and up to $1500.  Currently looking at weaver, primary arms, but open to suggestions.  Thanks.

Edit:  for a tikka ctr 6.5 cm.
Link Posted: 10/2/2017 11:12:34 AM EDT
[#1]
For the $$$ spent, the gen II V vortex viper PST is best bang for the buck IMB.

It's FFP, illuminated, 5-25x power, and Vortex warranty and customer service are gtg.

I have two Gen I Viper PST and they're both gtg, and the Gen II improves on any shortcomings of the first gen.
Link Posted: 10/2/2017 1:33:45 PM EDT
[#2]
I just bought a Vortex Viper PST Gen II last week and so far it's great. With my military discount it was $1000 shipped.

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Link Posted: 10/2/2017 2:17:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123] [#3]
Does that include rings?

If not the MHSA Gen I Razor and Sphur mount is the best deal going for $1700 at the moment.

Otherwise, I would look at the Bushnell DMR II-i.
Link Posted: 10/2/2017 7:32:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jlficken:
Does that include rings?

If not the MHSA Gen I Razor and Sphur mount is the best deal going for $1700 at the moment.

Otherwise, I would look at the Bushnell DMR II-i.
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1500 is just the scope.  I'm also looking at what would meet the requirements in the 900 range.
Link Posted: 10/2/2017 7:53:22 PM EDT
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If you can find a Gen 1 vortex Razor, that's a good option.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 7:08:41 AM EDT
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The bad thing on the new gen II viper PST is you have to find them in stock somewhere, dealing directly from Vortex is a 6 month back order they told me. I got lucky and saw it posted on the sniper forums that a place had received a few and quickly ordered one.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 12:30:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:


1500 is just the scope.  I'm also looking at what would meet the requirements in the 900 range.
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I sent you an IM.

If you can afford the $1500ish class of scopes you really should get one right away as you really won't regret it.

I bought lots of $1000 scopes before I bought my Gen II Razor and I am finally happy with my optic choice now.  I got it on sale for $1700 so that helped a lot though
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 9:40:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Your high point budget is really close to the 4.5-29x56 Athlon Cronus. Most are $1700, I found mine for $1500. It has been stellar so far. Great reticle and all the goodies, FFP, illuminated, side focus, zero stop, and glass quality between Razor Gen II and ATACR.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 9:42:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jlficken:


I sent you an IM.

If you can afford the $1500ish class of scopes you really should get one right away as you really won't regret it.

I bought lots of $1000 scopes before I bought my Gen II Razor and I am finally happy with my optic choice now.  I got it on sale for $1700 so that helped a lot though
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Thanks, I saw that.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 2:04:56 PM EDT
[#10]
I ordered the Weaver 6-30x56 that has been on sale.  It's heavy, but my eyes are bad so I'm hoping it is as bright as reported.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 2:17:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ISED8U:
For the $ spent, the gen II V vortex viper PST is best bang for the buck IMB.

It's FFP, illuminated, 5-25x power, and Vortex warranty and customer service are gtg.

I have two Gen I Viper PST and they're both gtg, and the Gen II improves on any shortcomings of the first gen.
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I don't need to write it again so see the text above.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 2:40:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
I ordered the Weaver 6-30x56 that has been on sale.  It's heavy, but my eyes are bad so I'm hoping it is as bright as reported.
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I think this Weaver is the best value currently going.  10 mil turrets, zero stop, illumination, very bright LOW built glass.  I haven't sat it down to do an optical comparison with my Razor II yet, I'll hopefully get that done tomorrow.
https://www.natchezss.com/weaver-super-slam-tactical-rifle-scope-6-30x56mm-34mm.html

If you get .mil discounts, then the Bushnell DMR II is a great choice.  Without a .mil discount the original Razor/sphur mentioned above is a pretty good deal.

If your willing to bust your budget just a little and want to save weight, the Leupold MK 6 3-18 with H58 is $1800 at Natchez.
https://www.natchezss.com/leupold-mark-6-rifle-scope-3-18x44mm-34mm-front-focal-h-58-reticle-matte.html

The PST II's seem pretty nice, but I would get the Weaver for slightly less.  I'm pretty sure the Weaver will have better glass.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 5:02:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:

I think this Weaver is the best value currently going.  10 mil turrets, zero stop, illumination, very bright LOW built glass.  I haven't sat it down to do an optical comparison with my Razor II yet, I'll hopefully get that done tomorrow.
https://www.natchezss.com/weaver-super-slam-tactical-rifle-scope-6-30x56mm-34mm.html

If you get .mil discounts, then the Bushnell DMR II is a great choice.  Without a .mil discount the original Razor/sphur mentioned above is a pretty good deal.

If your willing to bust your budget just a little and want to save weight, the Leupold MK 6 3-18 with H58 is $1800 at Natchez.
https://www.natchezss.com/leupold-mark-6-rifle-scope-3-18x44mm-34mm-front-focal-h-58-reticle-matte.html

The PST II's seem pretty nice, but I would get the Weaver for slightly less.  I'm pretty sure the Weaver will have better glass.
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I was watching your posts in another thread.  They helped to sway me to the weaver.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 5:08:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Good choice! I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up with a spare.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 5:56:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:

I think this Weaver is the best value currently going.  10 mil turrets, zero stop, illumination, very bright LOW built glass.  I haven't sat it down to do an optical comparison with my Razor II yet, I'll hopefully get that done tomorrow.
https://www.natchezss.com/weaver-super-slam-tactical-rifle-scope-6-30x56mm-34mm.html

If you get .mil discounts, then the Bushnell DMR II is a great choice.  Without a .mil discount the original Razor/sphur mentioned above is a pretty good deal.

If your willing to bust your budget just a little and want to save weight, the Leupold MK 6 3-18 with H58 is $1800 at Natchez.
https://www.natchezss.com/leupold-mark-6-rifle-scope-3-18x44mm-34mm-front-focal-h-58-reticle-matte.html

The PST II's seem pretty nice, but I would get the Weaver for slightly less.  I'm pretty sure the Weaver will have better glass.
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Are the Weavers still made by Simons?
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 6:02:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sparkyD:

Are the Weavers still made by Simons?
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I don't know about others.  My understanding is the Weaver Tactical line was contracted through Light Optical Works in Japan.
Link Posted: 10/4/2017 7:17:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/18/2017 8:25:18 AM EDT
[#18]
Burris XTR II
Link Posted: 10/18/2017 8:49:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I don't know about others.  My understanding is the Weaver Tactical line was contracted through Light Optical Works in Japan.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By sparkyD:

Are the Weavers still made by Simons?
I don't know about others.  My understanding is the Weaver Tactical line was contracted through Light Optical Works in Japan.
I just got mine in the mail today; the bottom of the main tube says "Made in Japan".  I think the guts of the scope might have a lot in common with the Razor II 4.5-27.  For instance, the elevation turret has a similar zero setting mechanism where you pop the cap off and turn an infinitely fine adjustment screw to move the reticle independently from the turret mechanism.

Link Posted: 10/18/2017 9:55:42 PM EDT
[#20]
SWFA fan here. They have sales quarterly or so. 20% usually. Their HD 5x20 is my favorite in your price range. At this time, I refuse to spend $2500+++ for a scope. It was a decision between the SWFA and the Vortex for me.
Enjoy your scope.
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