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7/8/2017 11:20:18 AM EDT
Both are local Armslist
This one at $625
https://www.armslist.com/posts/7031490/fayetteville-arkansas-rifles-for-sale--savage-model-10-fcp-sr--suppressor-ready--tactical--308win

Or this one....
https://www.armslist.com/posts/6946750/fayetteville-arkansas-rifles-for-sale--remington-sps-tactical

I've been online and from what I can tell, the opinions are split and in most cases, come down to price and/or some features that the Savage has over the Remington. In this case, the features are similar.

The Savage has a box magazine and in this situation, also has a bipod and scope ready to go for $100 more. That seems to be the Pros for the Savage. The Pros for the Remington are longer barrel and picatinny rail. I know the barrel is free floated, not sure on the Savage.

Just saw this too; it looks cool but I'm not sure it's in the same league as the Savage and Remington.
https://www.armslist.com/posts/6618897/fayetteville-arkansas-rifles-for-sale--used-mossberg-mvp-lc-in-fde

This will be a hunting/shtf gun as a backup to my Scar 17; likely stashed a buddy's place where I do most of my hunting anyway. I hear the Nikon Monarch scopes are good but will likely switch to a Trijicon in the next few months.

So, any help appreciated! Thanks, John
7/8/2017 11:35:40 AM EDT
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Short barreled precision bolt action rifles are the strangest thing I've ever seen.
7/8/2017 11:56:26 AM EDT
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Why?  Not everyone cares about distance and a 16 suits them just fine.


To OP, I would go with the savage for the extra features.  Plus the only bolt guns I own are both savage rifles and they have been excellent.
7/8/2017 12:05:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks. Forgot to add (fwiw) that I've a suppressor in jail to put on this rifle and I don't expect to shoot more than 500m. Keep the comments coming...thanks
7/8/2017 3:26:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Unless you're in love with using AR/M14 style mags both the Savage and Rem are much better than the MVP, I'm biased toward the Savage overall.
7/8/2017 5:33:45 PM EDT
[#5]
The Hogue stock on the Remington is garbage so plan on replacing it. Between the bunch would get the Savage. Is $675 your max? If not then add another to the mix and look at the Bergara HMR. Yes a little more money but a very good rifle. I would take it over any of the others.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/9840/Bergara+Rifles+B14S351+B-14+HMR+Bolt+308+Winchester7.62+NATO+20+5%2B1+Synthetic
7/9/2017 8:14:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Yes, I can go a little higher and will check out Bergara.

Found this one as well. He said he'd thread the barrel for me too. Seems like a great option......deal or look for a Bergara?

http://www.arguntrader.com/viewtopic.php?p=179202#p179202
7/9/2017 8:18:06 AM EDT
[#7]
This one?

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6933765/fayetteville-arkansas-rifles-for-sale--nib-bergara-b-14-hmr--308
7/9/2017 8:52:53 AM EDT
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That Bergara BMP is the shizz! My budget will be busted but I'm thinking hard on that and saving for glass. I've a trijicon 3-9 I can slap on it for awhile.
7/9/2017 12:31:52 PM EDT
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You can't go wrong with the Bergara. I've yet to see one that isn't a hammer. The HMR and BMP share pretty much everything except for barrel length and stock. The BMP chassis is nice, I'm just not a fan of the buttstock.
7/9/2017 2:45:07 PM EDT
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How else are they supposed to fit in a rice rocket?


I'd suggest the Bergara or Tikka CTR. With a little bit more money you can get a much better rifle out of the box than a factory Remington or Salvage.
7/9/2017 2:59:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Awesome.....narrowing it down now to the Bergaras and perhaps Ruger Precision Rifle. Likely the Bergara but still researching. Thanks for the comments!
7/9/2017 4:10:23 PM EDT
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If you're throwing the Ruger Precision into the mix then that's my pick.   I'm most at home with the AR style grip and ergonomics.  I just have more experience and shots downrange like that.
7/9/2017 7:14:54 PM EDT
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Really happy with the Tikka TSR I just picked up for for a steal.  Tikka CTR in a McRee G10 stock.  

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Edit same gun is on GB in sniper gray for 1100
7/9/2017 7:51:47 PM EDT
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Ur killin' me
7/9/2017 8:00:04 PM EDT
[#15]
Some more Tikka motivation......


Tikka CTR 3 by X Ring, on Flickr
7/9/2017 9:44:49 PM EDT
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If it is between those two only, that's easy: the Savage.

As Rob stated, you would definitely need to replace the Hogue stock on the Rem.  Also, the XMark Pro trigger is beyond garbage.  Once you adjust the accu-trigger down in squeeze weight, it is much more bearable than the XMark.

If you can save a few more bucks, I'd consider as others have suggested, the Ruger PR, Tikka or Bergara would be great choices.
7/10/2017 6:51:35 AM EDT
[#17]
Thanks y'all.....I'm gonna hit Cabela's to see if I can put my hands on any of these. If not, I may just go with whatever is the best deal since they all come recommended.
7/10/2017 6:53:14 AM EDT
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Link? I can't seem to find it.
7/10/2017 12:07:58 PM EDT
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Really happy with the Tikka TSR I just picked up for for a steal.  Tikka CTR in a McRee G10 stock.  

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Edit same gun is on GB in sniper gray for 1100
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Wow, for $1100 that's a no brainer if you're shopping for one.  I'm $$ tapped out right now.

A friend got a Tikka in .308 that shoots FGMM like it was custom chambered and barreled for it.  He's got no reason to handload for it.
7/10/2017 3:18:19 PM EDT
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Pot of Gold

Hard to believe.  A buddy bought his sniper gray from wholesale hunter in AL for 1099.99 less than a week ago.  They took down the GBadd but if you call they may match it.   You can always seach completed GB auctions.
7/10/2017 5:25:01 PM EDT
[#21]
aside from the stock the tikka ctr is by far the nicest out of the box bolt rifle I've shot to date. and for the price per performance it's hard to beat.

I'm poor so I build savages
7/10/2017 5:37:37 PM EDT
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And we have a winner......thanks a bunch for the lead. Just did the deal on a FDE version, couldn't be happier. Will advise once I get some glass and get some range time. Might throw a 3-9 on it just to get it out!

Edit: got the TSR
7/11/2017 7:11:52 AM EDT
[#23]
Congrats.  Heck of a price for that gun.  That stock runs 700 by itself.  You'll also find that Tikka's have the smoothest factory action of any rifle at its price point.

Supposedly there were only 50 of the FDE models imported.  Also, the FDE one I got came with duel cheek slabs (rest). The original TSR in the recoil magazine only had one, to buy a second was an additional 130 bucks from McRee.

If you haven't already check out the recoil magazine article.

I picked up my new (used) scope and now need rings.  Not sure on what height yet but I'll get there.

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7/11/2017 10:27:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Nice choice on the Tikka! Post pics when you get it
7/11/2017 4:14:47 PM EDT
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Awesome pic and info. Will post some pics asap; looks like early next week. I'm selling some items and on the hunt for an optic; so stoked.
7/11/2017 4:15:24 PM EDT
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What optic is that? Looks nice.
7/11/2017 9:15:16 PM EDT
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I totally understand I've got an AR-10 for sale to fund this and I'm selling the scope that was on it.  

I picked up a Gen 1 Bushnell DMR with G2 retical.  I had the Bushnell LRS (prob a 6 year old scope) it's actually still on the elite line, but wanted a little better glass.  

Honestly you can't go wrong with just about anything out there right now, leaps and bounds better than 10-15 years ago.
7/12/2017 10:57:10 AM EDT
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And we have a winner......thanks a bunch for the lead. Just did the deal on a FDE version, couldn't be happier. Will advise once I get some glass and get some range time. Might throw a 3-9 on it just to get it out!

Edit: got the TSR
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You will be glad you bought the Tikka...They are AWESOME!!!!
7/12/2017 8:44:43 PM EDT
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Have you found the recoil article?  What optic are you looking at?  The trigger is amazing for what it is.