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Posted: 11/23/2011 2:08:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EdwardAvila]
I am a newbie and wondering what are some good but not super $$$ arrows for hunting season. I am shooting a Bear G2 with 60-65lb draw.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 1:41:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Well that depends on your budget for arrows.
I shoot Carbon Express Maxima Hunter 350s. I have found these to work well in my setup. I know Carbon Express and Easton both have carbon arrows that are more budgetary than what I shoot, The Maxima hunter series in higher-mid range of cost. About 70 dollars per 6 or so. |
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Posted: 8/23/2011 1:53:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the input, are Gold Tip EXP Hunter 3555 2" VANES DZ or Easton ST EXCELL 340 W/BLAZER DZ any good? I have a buddy who can get me these for around $55 dozen.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 3:53:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Yes these should be just fine.
 Just make sure you have arrows with the appropriate spine for the poundage you are using.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:05:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Okay thanks, will have to make sure I check that. That should be on the chart on the back of the box right? Sorry for dumb questions, it is all new to me.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/23/2011 6:52:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Anything for the most part Excluding Carbon Express there foreign shit.
I shoot Gold Tip XT Hunter and there a great arrow. |
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Posted: 8/24/2011 9:07:26 AM EDT
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Any benefit of the Easton arrows that are smaller in diameter than a normal carbon arrow?
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Posted: 8/24/2011 12:41:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By osthemost:
Okay thanks, will have to make sure I check that. That should be on the chart on the back of the box right? Sorry for dumb questions, it is all new to me. Yes the back of the package should have the chart needed to make sure you get the right spine for your poundage and draw length |
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Posted: 8/24/2011 12:43:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By CornDogg723a:
Anything for the most part Excluding Carbon Express there foreign shit. I shoot Gold Tip XT Hunter and there a great arrow. You would be surprised to know how many arrow shafts are made overseas...whether they are "shit" or not remains debateable |
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:00:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Vortech347]
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I'm fairly new too and I've been shooting Easton Flatlines and ST Epics.
The Flatlines are pretty expensive at ~$65 per half dozen but the Epics are around $50 per half dozen and they are .003 straightness. Plus they are a heavier arrow that will help with penetration for hunting. You would want 340 spine at your draw weight. Possibly even 300. Depends on your draw length / arrow length. I draw 59lbs but have a 30" draw length and I shoot an aggressive bow (Bowtech Destroyer 350). So I shoot 340's even though some charts say I could shoot 400's. Lot's of people on the bowhunting site I frequent like the Gold Tip's too and they are reasonably priced. |
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Posted: 8/26/2011 10:04:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: osthemost]
[#10]
Thanks for the help everybody, I am shooting a Bear G2 that I got cheep to start. 29 inch draw and 60-65lb draw.
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Posted: 8/26/2011 3:35:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CornDogg723a:
Anything for the most part Excluding Carbon Express there foreign shit. I shoot Gold Tip XT Hunter and there a great arrow. While I dont disagree that they're a great arrow in my limited experience, They're made overseas just like anyone else. |
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Posted: 8/27/2011 8:35:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By CornDogg723a:
Anything for the most part Excluding Carbon Express there foreign shit. I shoot Gold Tip XT Hunter and there a great arrow. You do know that Gold Tip arrows are now made in Mexico, don't you? |
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Posted: 8/27/2011 2:04:49 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By osthemost:
Thanks for the help everybody, I am shooting a Bear G2 that I got cheep to start. 29 inch draw and 60-65lb draw. You are right on the edge of needing 340 spine arrows. Being that your bow is older it probably has some pretty mild cams on it so 400 spined arrows should be ok. If you can go to a shop and paper tune your bow with a 400 spine that will tell you if you need to move up to a stiffer arrow. It's not very expensive to do and a good archery shop will be able to tell you what spine to buy. |
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Posted: 8/29/2011 12:05:45 PM EDT
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I shoot the Easton N-Fused Epics for the price.
29" draw at 65 lbs and cut the arrows to 27.75" I've found that the 400s have enough spine with 125 gr. heads (410 gr. feathered, or 440 gr. with Quickspin vanes, total arrow weight. Hybrid cam bow shooting them about 285 - 295 fps). They also have the weighted HP inserts which add a little more weight up front to bring your FOC up. In general, the pricier the arrow, the straighter, lighter and more uniform the weight between arrows. Some also add a forward weighted design into the shaft (where the carbon shaft is slightly thicker at the front to bring the FOC up). I look for a straightness tolerance meeting +/-0.003" and weight tolerance meeting +/- 3 gr. I like lighter arrows with 100 - 125 gr. heads. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:36:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusM4]
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Beman ICS Bone Collector arrows is all I will shoot as of right now. They are thin diameter arrows which means they resist the wind better and they have better penetration. The shaft walls are thicker than a regular arrow so they are stronger. They are definately the most accurate arrow I have ever shot, 3" 5 shot groups at 50 yards. I got a complete pass through on a doe at 50 yards last year as well. They are priced around $58 per 6.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2011 10:00:27 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
Originally Posted By CornDogg723a:
Anything for the most part Excluding Carbon Express there foreign shit. I shoot Gold Tip XT Hunter and there a great arrow. You do know that Gold Tip arrows are now made in Mexico, don't you? If this is true fuck gold tip i will switch too easton. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 10:04:56 PM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By CornDogg723a:
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
Originally Posted By CornDogg723a:
Anything for the most part Excluding Carbon Express there foreign shit. I shoot Gold Tip XT Hunter and there a great arrow. You do know that Gold Tip arrows are now made in Mexico, don't you? If this is true fuck gold tip i will switch too easton. Gold Tip arrows used to be made by Victory Archery. When Gold Tip moved operations to Mexico, Victory Archery continued making arrows, but put their own V-Force label on them. |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:27:37 PM EDT
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Don't mean to derail the thread but I was under the impression that the higher the arrows spine number (300, 340, 400) the stiffer and stronger it is. So as you go up in draw weight you need a higher number spined arrow because it gives you a stiffer arrow that doesn't flex as much under the higher draw wieght.
For example as this chart shows When I got my bow it came with a ton of arrows including a dozen brand new uncut Carbon Force radial x weave 400's. The chart that's on the side states basically the same as what's on the chart I linked so that if you go up in draw weight you need to go up in arrow spine number which gives you a stiffer/stronger arrow or am I missing something? |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:39:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4Madness]
[#19]
The higher the number, the weaker the spine. An arrow is centered on two supports 28" apart. A 1.94 pound weight is attached the center, and the amount of deflection is the spine number in inches. A .500 spine is a half inch deflection, which would be weaker than a shaft that only deflected .250".
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Posted: 9/4/2011 1:20:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4Madness:
The higher the number, the weaker the spine. An arrow is centered on two supports 28" apart. A 1.94 pound weight is attached the center, and the amount of deflection is the spine number in inches. A .500 spine is a half inch deflection, which would be weaker than a shaft that only deflected .250". So why would you want a weaker arrow with high draw weights? Is it so the arrow flexes more and absorbs more energy while maintaining accurracy? Sorry for the newb questions but I is a newb 
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Posted: 9/4/2011 1:54:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4Madness]
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Originally Posted By PreemptiveStrike:
So why would you want a weaker arrow with high draw weights? Is it so the arrow flexes more and absorbs more energy while maintaining accurracy? Sorry for the newb questions but I is a newb Those numbers in your link are not the actual spine. I guess in your instance, those are model numbers instead. An arrow gets stiffer the shorter it is cut. That's why the same draw weight may require different arrow spines depending on length. |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 8:23:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VirginiaM4]
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do not get 3555's, those are for kiddie bows between 35 and 55 pounds draw weight. those 3555s will flex hard upon launch and will fly all over the place. 5575's would be a better choice. maybe even 7595's, depending on what length your arrows are cut to, weight of the arrow tips (100 grain, 125 grain, etc). There are a lot of factors to consider, including type of rest (whisker biscuit, drop away, etc)
if you are not sure what you are getting to correctly match your bow, try going to archerytalk.com and ask for some help with arrow choice. 2 inch blazer vanes are preferred over 4 inch vanes, especially if you are using a whisker biscuit. Don't recommend running 4 inch vanes thru a whisker biscuit, they will warp and wrinkle because they are made from thin plastic. blazers are made of a thicker, stiffer plastic and resist warping better. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2011 10:30:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
The higher the number, the weaker the spine. An arrow is centered on two supports 28" apart. A 1.94 pound weight is attached the center, and the amount of deflection is the spine number in inches. A .500 spine is a half inch deflection, which would be weaker than a shaft that only deflected .250". True, but I'm also a firm believer that broadhead selection plays a part in your desired results. I've been running GT 5575's for a few years since I made the leap to modern technology and carbon arrows. I have not been pleased with the penetration however using 3 bladed spitfires, although I am 100% sold on the spitfire broadheads. Being vertically challenged, I'm right on the very cusp though as I'm shooting 27 and some change length arrows out of a 68# SBXT. I'm gonna try some 7595's and see if that helps out.....at least I hope I'm going to see 
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Posted: 9/7/2011 11:02:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Easton Flatline 400's w/Spit Fire Maxx mechanicals.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 1:16:27 AM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By PreemptiveStrike: PSE's chart is based on their model number, not the spine of the arrow. M4 explained it well; PSE screwed things with their labeling, but they had to be different than Easton, who sets the standard for spine designation. PSE's Carbon Force X-weave Pro 200 has a spine of .400" while their X-weave Pro 300 has a spine of .340 (which is stiffer) Confused yet? Carbon Express is just as confusing. Easton and Beman (same company after all) designate their numbers according to the spine. A Flatline DOA 400 has a .400 spine, and a Flatline DOA 340 has a .340 spine. Gold Tip designates theirs according to the draw weight the arrow is intended for. The XT Hunter 5575 is for 55-75# bows and has a spine of .400. the XT Hunter 7595 is for really strong bows and has a spine of .340.Don't mean to derail the thread but I was under the impression that the higher the arrows spine number (300, 340, 400) the stiffer and stronger it is. So as you go up in draw weight you need a higher number spined arrow because it gives you a stiffer arrow that doesn't flex as much under the higher draw wieght. For example as this chart shows When I got my bow it came with a ton of arrows including a dozen brand new uncut Carbon Force radial x weave 400's. The chart that's on the side states basically the same as what's on the chart I linked so that if you go up in draw weight you need to go up in arrow spine number which gives you a stiffer/stronger arrow or am I missing something? The arrows I shoot, Harvest Time Archery, also list their number according to the spine strength. The HT-2 Harvester 350 that I shoot is a .350 spine. |
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Posted: 9/12/2011 9:19:52 AM EDT
[#26]
Well I went to the local bow shop and the guy sold me a dozen Gold Tip Warrior's for $60. They are awesome, have been putting 6 arrows in a 3 inch group at 25 and 35.
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ND, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2011 2:28:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Carbon Express 300's with a 28" inch draw length and 58 lbs draw weight.
Works fine, but I think I'm supposed to be using 400's. Either way, I've not run into any issues. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2011 3:31:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-15kid]
[#28]
wow, just goes ta show, ya need ta be a pro, ta shoot a bow.... tis shooting a 60 to 70lb bow, have had too tweek it down cause have shoulder problems, so tis closer to the 60lb.... got carbon arrows 45-60 an some 50-60 tis using 100gr broad tips... first started using allominum arrows 2117, twas told one twas wall thickness the other twas diamitor? 21 twas thickness or twas the diamitor on 17 twas the other, u know what i meen, got emmixed up... started out with the beemans carbon talon 55/70 diamitor tis real thin on it, any ways know a person that used carbon arrow's hit a deer in shoulder an it splintered, he was shooting higher lb bow... any ways twas wondering if arrows 45-60 & 50-60 be okay for my set up, shoulder kinda pops whin holding back bow, think that tis wear me acreccy tis not as good, have been turning down me bow, used to be able to three arrows touching never the robin hood shot, but could hit size of a bottle cap off plastic bottle at 20 yrds, no big deal....
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Posted: 10/10/2011 5:33:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By New4John:
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
The higher the number, the weaker the spine. An arrow is centered on two supports 28" apart. A 1.94 pound weight is attached the center, and the amount of deflection is the spine number in inches. A .500 spine is a half inch deflection, which would be weaker than a shaft that only deflected .250". True, but I'm also a firm believer that broadhead selection plays a part in your desired results. I've been running GT 5575's for a few years since I made the leap to modern technology and carbon arrows. I have not been pleased with the penetration however using 3 bladed spitfires, although I am 100% sold on the spitfire broadheads. Being vertically challenged, I'm right on the very cusp though as I'm shooting 27 and some change length arrows out of a 68# SBXT. I'm gonna try some 7595's and see if that helps out.....at least I hope I'm going to see Can you be more specific on the penetration issues? I just picked up a dozen GT 5575s cut to 29 inches. I have a 27.5 inch draw with a loop puts a 29 inch arrow 1 inch over the shelf just in front of my finger. Also using 3 bladed spitfires. What lack of penetration should I expect? |
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