Posted: 3/25/2012 5:10:35 AM EDT
| I've been an avid gun enthusiast for many years. Hunting, reloading, plinking etc. I decided to make the leap for my elk hunt this year. Picked up a PSE Brute X, set up a range at my house and have been shooting about 80 arrows a day. Wow is this fun. I can't believe it took me this long to learn how to shoot a bow. After about a week I am starting to feel pretty comfortable and confident. My best friend is a long time archer er so I have a good mentor and am hopefully not learning any bad habits. I have the bow set at 57 lbs and will work my way up 65 to 70. Looking forward to hunting elk that haven't been spooked from one end of the state to the other. |
It's been forever since I've shopped for new bows......20yrs . Looking at this bow, it says it's sold in 50,60, and 70lb draw weights; I take it each of those can be adjusted down like the older compound bows I'm used to? What does the 70lb adjust to on the lower end? My oldest thinks he might want to get a bow, and I want to make sure he can draw it, but still be something he won't grow it of. The old bows seemed to adjust from 55-70.....are they stil the same?
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Quoted: Which bow specifically? Most bows have a 10lb range. 40-50, 50-60, 60-70. My Maitland Retribution goes from 60-70lbs. If I want to drop the draw weight, I need different limbs, which I can buy from the company. In the same way, if I have 60lb limbs and want to increase my draw weight, I can buy stiffer limbs and get more draw weight (which translates into faster arrows).It's been forever since I've shopped for new bows......20yrs . Looking at this bow, it says it's sold in 50,60, and 70lb draw weights; I take it each of those can be adjusted down like the older compound bows I'm used to? What does the 70lb adjust to on the lower end? My oldest thinks he might want to get a bow, and I want to make sure he can draw it, but still be something he won't grow it of. The old bows seemed to adjust from 55-70.....are they stil the same?There are some bows that are designed to be highly adjustable to "grow with" an archer. My son has a PSE Rally, which we got for him specifically because it goes from 30-60lbs, and can handle his draw length past my draw length. He won't need another bow until after he becomes an adult. The drawback to these types of bows is that they are not very fast. None of them are faster than 310fps, and that's at the bows maximum draw weight and draw length. If you want a faster bow, you go with one that has a 10lb draw weight range.
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We handled the brute x at the store the other day. The guy adjusted the(60-70lb) to 60lbs and to my sons draw length, then let him draw it. He could do it with out contorting, or drawing dorm the sky, but he said he didn't know how many more times he could do it. . We didn't get it yet, but we made a new backstop, and I'll probably pick it up this weekend if we can make it back up to Billings.
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| As stated in my original post, my bow was set at 57lbs out of the gate. It is a 60-70 lb bow. I have since put a couple of turns into the limbs but not sure what it is pulling at. I believe we got 10 back turns out of it when first setting it up. I don't think the adjustment on the limbs are linear so hard to tell what one turn from 57 lbs will equate to. I will keep working my way up and eventually re measure it. Really liking the bow. I am fortunate to have land and I shoot everyday, wind permitting, and have a 20.30,40,50 and 60 yard set up. No problem drilling a 6" plate from 60 yards. |
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Quoted: As stated in my original post, my bow was set at 57lbs out of the gate. It is a 60-70 lb bow. I have since put a couple of turns into the limbs but not sure what it is pulling at. I believe we got 10 back turns out of it when first setting it up. I don't think the adjustment on the limbs are linear so hard to tell what one turn from 57 lbs will equate to. I will keep working my way up and eventually re measure it. Really liking the bow. I am fortunate to have land and I shoot everyday, wind permitting, and have a 20.30,40,50 and 60 yard set up. No problem drilling a 6" plate from 60 yards. Grab a digital scale and hang it from a roof beam and use that to measure your draw weight (hook the string, not the d-loop!). It works well. |
| I picked up a Brute X over the weekend, a 70# in Skullworks. The Brute Xs are capable of going down 20# from their max. I currently have mine set @ 56#. This is my first bow and I originally was gonna get the 60# but the guy that set me up told me to go ahead and get the 70# so that I wont out grow it. I'm sure that I would never need the 70# here in north Ga but I figured it wouldnt hurt. I was assured that going that low was perfectly safe. |
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I picked up a Brute X over the weekend, a 70# in Skullworks. The Brute Xs are capable of going down 20# from their max. I currently have mine set @ 56#. This is my first bow and I originally was gonna get the 60# but the guy that set me up told me to go ahead and get the 70# so that I wont out grow it. I'm sure that I would never need the 70# here in north Ga but I figured it wouldnt hurt. I was assured that going that low was perfectly safe. Good to know, I ordered one for my son and I. It will be here Friday. |
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I picked up a Brute X over the weekend, a 70# in Skullworks. The Brute Xs are capable of going down 20# from their max. I currently have mine set @ 56#. This is my first bow and I originally was gonna get the 60# but the guy that set me up told me to go ahead and get the 70# so that I wont out grow it. I'm sure that I would never need the 70# here in north Ga but I figured it wouldnt hurt. I was assured that going that low was perfectly safe. Good to know, I ordered one for my son and I. It will be here Friday. Just got home from a trip and set up the bow for my son. I turned it down 7 of the 10 possible turns and he pulls it well. I set the bow for a 26" draw. Really easy to do. I'm impressed. We need to go get some new arrows tomorrow. I've got a bunch of older Easton alluminum arrows for my old Martin Lynx Magnum but I need to buy something new for him. Hopefully some carbons. Probably have them cut a little long so I can use them if he decides he isn't into shooting.
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Very cool! What # and color did you get?
In hind sight I wish I had gotten the black/camo in 60#. I had it in my head to get the SW in 70# knowing that I could tune it down so that is what I picked, but after seeing the black/camo and then realizing that 60# is more than enough for georgia hunting I wished I had gone with 60#. |
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We bought the 70# RTS pkg, whatever breakup camo pattern that is.... I can't remember, but it's the only camo that comes with the whole pkg. We bought some bulk carbon Easten arrows at the local shop. I sighted it in for my son then he shot it at 10yrds and never missed the kill zone. We had the arrows cut a little long at 30" so I can use them if we change the bow back up to 29" draw.
They still seem dang fast compared to my old bow.  . We turned it down one more turn for a total of 8 from max, as my son thought it was a little too hard to pull, although he pulled it straight back 9 times in three sets of three. I amused him and turned it down for him; anything to keep him shooting.  . I had to adjust the sights to the top holes, as it was shooting way high. Once I had that done the top pin works well for anything out to 20yrds. Pretty impressive at the reduced poundage. I never could do that with my old Martin.
My only thought was that I think we need some string silencers. Do people still use them? Teranchulas? I think that was what used to work best years ago. Any advice on where to get them? I've still got a set on my recurve. The bow is much more quiet than I'm used to, but I was hoping for even quieter. |
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Whats the take on a Bear Charge as a first bow? It was recommened by the shop (local small hunting store, not big box) that wants my money so I'm hesitant to buying without much insight. Don't know about the Charge, but I bought my youngest son a Bear Apprentice II for his birthday. I'm extremely impressed with the bow so far. The amount and range of adjustment is unbelievable. The Apprentice II is a "youth/woman's" bow. Probably not what you are looking for, but I'm impressed with the quality of the bow. My son shoots like a pro with it.  .
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Whats the take on a Bear Charge as a first bow? It was recommened by the shop (local small hunting store, not big box) that wants my money so I'm hesitant to buying without much insight. Don't know about the Charge, but I bought my youngest son a Bear Apprentice II for his birthday. I'm extremely impressed with the bow so far. The amount and range of adjustment is unbelievable. The Apprentice II is a "youth/woman's" bow. Probably not what you are looking for, but I'm impressed with the quality of the bow. My son shoots like a pro with it. .Not too proud to try something at a beginner's level that set up for... beginners. |
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Quoted: I tried a Charge before buying my bow. It's a nice bow, but just not that impressive. The problem is that you will want to upgrade pretty soon from that bow to a higher performance bow. If you get a faster bow, then you'll end up buying new arrows, as a faster bow will probably require stiffer arrows (adds to the cost of upgrading).Quoted: Quoted: Whats the take on a Bear Charge as a first bow? It was recommened by the shop (local small hunting store, not big box) that wants my money so I'm hesitant to buying without much insight. Don't know about the Charge, but I bought my youngest son a Bear Apprentice II for his birthday. I'm extremely impressed with the bow so far. The amount and range of adjustment is unbelievable. The Apprentice II is a "youth/woman's" bow. Probably not what you are looking for, but I'm impressed with the quality of the bow. My son shoots like a pro with it. .Not too proud to try something at a beginner's level that set up for... beginners. My recommendation would be a Bowtech Assassin R.A.K. package (Ready. Aim. Kill). The only thing you add is a release and arrows. The bow has a better grip, is a ton faster, is quieter, and you may not even want to upgrade (yeah, right. B.A.D. –– Bow Acquisition Disease is just as bad as BRD). Lots of reviews are pointing out that it meets or exceeds it's IBO rating. Bear bows won't do that.
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Whats the take on a Bear Charge as a first bow? It was recommened by the shop (local small hunting store, not big box) that wants my money so I'm hesitant to buying without much insight. Don't know about the Charge, but I bought my youngest son a Bear Apprentice II for his birthday. I'm extremely impressed with the bow so far. The amount and range of adjustment is unbelievable. The Apprentice II is a "youth/woman's" bow. Probably not what you are looking for, but I'm impressed with the quality of the bow. My son shoots like a pro with it. .Not too proud to try something at a beginner's level that set up for... beginners. My son is 13, and small. The Apprentice II package was perfect for him, and only cost $300. I think the draw length is adjustable from 14-27", and weight adjustable from 30-60lbs. It's not the fastest bow, but it is pretty dang quiet, and he easily puts his arrows in the kill zone at 20yrds every time. It will be easy for The bow to grow with him. Its set at a 15" draw length for him right now, and about 35#. For my oldest son, 18, , I bought a PSE Brute X RTS pkg. I've been shooting it too, and love the bow. I haven't shot a compound bow for 20yrs, so the new technology is all awesome to me. I can only shoot two arrows at 10yrds, because the 3rd will surely hit one of the other two. Usually, the first two are touching. Now, I know this is probably common, for today's bows but it sure didn't happen every time when I was 20 . The pkg only cost around $500.
I'd recommend that if you are looking for an adult bow and not wanting to spend $1000 for a full pkg, take a look at the BRUTE X. I found it recommended here in another thread. |
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Whats the take on a Bear Charge as a first bow? It was recommened by the shop (local small hunting store, not big box) that wants my money so I'm hesitant to buying without much insight. Don't know about the Charge, but I bought my youngest son a Bear Apprentice II for his birthday. I'm extremely impressed with the bow so far. The amount and range of adjustment is unbelievable. The Apprentice II is a "youth/woman's" bow. Probably not what you are looking for, but I'm impressed with the quality of the bow. My son shoots like a pro with it. .Not too proud to try something at a beginner's level that set up for... beginners. My son is 13, and small. The Apprentice II package was perfect for him, and only cost $300. I think the draw length is adjustable from 14-27", and weight adjustable from 30-60lbs. It's not the fastest bow, but it is pretty dang quiet, and he easily puts his arrows in the kill zone at 20yrds every time. It will be easy for The bow to grow with him. Its set at a 15" draw length for him right now, and about 35#. For my oldest son, 18, , I bought a PSE Brute X RTS pkg. I've been shooting it too, and love the bow. I haven't shot a compound bow for 20yrs, so the new technology is all awesome to me. I can only shoot two arrows at 10yrds, because the 3rd will surely hit one of the other two. Usually, the first two are touching. Now, I know this is probably common, for today's bows but it sure didn't happen every time when I was 20 . The pkg only cost around $500.
I'd recommend that if you are looking for an adult bow and not wanting to spend $1000 for a full pkg, take a look at the BRUTE X. I found it recommended here in another thread. I think that is the direction in which I'm going. Thanks guys |