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9/19/2011 11:41:28 AM EDT
What are you thoughts on the AR Gold Trigger for 3 gun?  Most importantly are the reliable?
9/19/2011 2:22:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Probably THE most reliable trigger out there. Can be adjusted down to a reliable 1.5#'s. Reset is rather weak but Ronin can supply a stiffer return spring but at the expense of a slightly heavier trigger pull.

If you like a fine 1911 trigger. This is the trigger for you.

If you like a tuned Glock trigger with a snappy reset, the Gieselle S3G is more up your alley.
9/20/2011 1:00:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Probably THE most reliable trigger out there. Can be adjusted down to a reliable 1.5#'s. Reset is rather weak but Ronin can supply a stiffer return spring but at the expense of a slightly heavier trigger pull.

If you like a fine 1911 trigger. This is the trigger for you.

If you like a tuned Glock trigger with a snappy reset, the Gieselle S3G is more up your alley.


One of the best and most concise summaries between the two triggers I have found.
9/28/2011 6:05:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Its a very light trigger with a short reset.  The only problem I had was that there was too much side to side movement in the receiver (Tac Innovations Billet Lower)
9/28/2011 6:13:12 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Probably THE most reliable trigger out there. Can be adjusted down to a reliable 1.5#'s. Reset is rather weak but Ronin can supply a stiffer return spring but at the expense of a slightly heavier trigger pull.

If you like a fine 1911 trigger. This is the trigger for you.

If you like a tuned Glock trigger with a snappy reset, the Gieselle S3G is more up your alley.


I had been shooting the JP for 2 years.  The new Stag rifle uses the Giessele Super 3 Gun.  It's light but there is no "wall" so I find myself jerking it when the sights are on target but not stable enough to actually take the shot.  I also have trouble zeroing the S3G because I can't prep it to the wal before I break the shot.  If I understand you correctly the Gold is a lighter version of the JP?

9/29/2011 4:27:51 AM EDT
[#5]
The Gold is a 2 stage, but has a very light 1st stage.  (like the take-up on a 1911)  My JP has no take-up, so I wouldn't compare it to an AR Gold.  

I like the Gold, but the reset is a little soft.  I would also prefer the trigger to be a little wider.  But the break is light and very clean.
9/29/2011 11:13:53 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably THE most reliable trigger out there. Can be adjusted down to a reliable 1.5#'s. Reset is rather weak but Ronin can supply a stiffer return spring but at the expense of a slightly heavier trigger pull.

If you like a fine 1911 trigger. This is the trigger for you.

If you like a tuned Glock trigger with a snappy reset, the Gieselle S3G is more up your alley.


I had been shooting the JP for 2 years.  The new Stag rifle uses the Giessele Super 3 Gun.  It's light but there is no "wall" so I find myself jerking it when the sights are on target but not stable enough to actually take the shot.  I also have trouble zeroing the S3G because I can't prep it to the wal before I break the shot.  If I understand you correctly the Gold is a lighter version of the JP?



If you're looking for that 'wall' to help prep the trigger for a longer range shot then I can't imagine a better trigger than the AR Gold.  I've also got the Geissele S3G and am experiencing the same issue when prepping for a precise shot.

Sure the AR Gold is two-stage but pulling through both stages is still shorter than most single stage triggers.  Besides the 1st stage is under a pound in weight.
9/29/2011 11:43:16 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Probably THE most reliable trigger out there. Can be adjusted down to a reliable 1.5#'s. Reset is rather weak but Ronin can supply a stiffer return spring but at the expense of a slightly heavier trigger pull.

If you like a fine 1911 trigger. This is the trigger for you.

If you like a tuned Glock trigger with a snappy reset, the Gieselle S3G is more up your alley.


I had been shooting the JP for 2 years.  The new Stag rifle uses the Giessele Super 3 Gun.  It's light but there is no "wall" so I find myself jerking it when the sights are on target but not stable enough to actually take the shot.  I also have trouble zeroing the S3G because I can't prep it to the wal before I break the shot.  If I understand you correctly the Gold is a lighter version of the JP?



I didn't know that first stage was a stage at all.  I called it slack.  Kinda like an M&P trigger has.  Kinda like milking a cow.

If you're looking for that 'wall' to help prep the trigger for a longer range shot then I can't imagine a better trigger than the AR Gold.  I've also got the Geissele S3G and am experiencing the same issue when prepping for a precise shot.

Sure the AR Gold is two-stage but pulling through both stages is still shorter than most single stage triggers.  Besides the 1st stage is under a pound in weight.


9/29/2011 12:41:23 PM EDT
[#8]
I would tend to agree with you on calling it slack but this is what the AR Gold website shows on their graph and what they call their first and second stage.

9/30/2011 3:18:06 AM EDT
[#9]
Be honest, Jesse.  How many cows have you milked?  I would tend to compare a cow's teet to the trigger on the old HK VP70Z- long, mushy and kind of gritty.


11/12/2011 7:33:14 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Probably THE most reliable trigger out there. Can be adjusted down to a reliable 1.5#'s. Reset is rather weak but Ronin can supply a stiffer return spring but at the expense of a slightly heavier trigger pull.

If you like a fine 1911 trigger. This is the trigger for you.

If you like a tuned Glock trigger with a snappy reset, the Gieselle S3G is more up your alley.


How do I get one of these Ronin springs?

11/12/2011 10:34:41 PM EDT
[#11]
I like the Geisselle 3g. It took some getting used to and at first I did not like it. But once you get used to it you will love it. I have found I can shoot faster and still be precise on harder smaller targets.
Never tried the Gold trigger would not mind feeling one in someone elses rifle first.
Pat
11/12/2011 11:49:33 PM EDT
[#12]
I have been shooting the Gieselle super 3 gun all year.   Probably have 5k on it now.   Pull weight is great but there is no wall.  No wall is no bueno.
11/13/2011 9:29:53 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I have been shooting the Gieselle super 3 gun all year.   Probably have 5k on it now.   Pull weight is great but there is no wall.  No wall is no bueno.


I kind of like the no wall. Its like a really short and light da pull with a great surprise break.
pat
11/13/2011 5:58:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Never tried the Gold trigger would not mind feeling one in someone else's rifle first.

Pat


you're welcome to come down to north Texas and try the AR Gold
11/13/2011 10:50:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Maybe for the Larue match this year.
Pat
11/13/2011 11:53:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I like the Geisselle 3g. It took some getting used to and at first I did not like it. But once you get used to it you will love it. I have found I can shoot faster and still be precise on harder smaller targets.
Never tried the Gold trigger would not mind feeling one in someone elses rifle first.
Pat


I have one you can try at the next Birchwood 3 Gun.
11/15/2011 1:12:12 AM EDT
[#17]
Cool!
Pat
12/14/2011 2:15:55 PM EDT
[#18]
I have the AR Gold in my dedicated .22 AR and I have 5k or so through it now. I really like it and I really can't imagine a better trigger The AR Gold trigger puts most bolt gun triggers to shame.
I am waiting on my 2 LG Pin S3G Triggers to come from Geissele for my 2 Colt Lg Pin 6920 Carbines. I'm kinda worried now about precision shots.
An AR Gold won't fit in the Colts with the sear block shelf unless they have changed that stupid feature when they changed to std pin size on hammer and trigger I would have to machine out the block on my 2 Colt 6920's.
I figured the S3G would be perfect for long precision shots and the CQB shots as well. Especially as its touted as a 3 gun trigger.
12/15/2011 4:07:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I have the AR Gold in my dedicated .22 AR and I have 5k or so through it now. I really like it and I really can't imagine a better trigger The AR Gold trigger puts most bolt gun triggers to shame.
I am waiting on my 2 LG Pin S3G Triggers to come from Geissele for my 2 Colt Lg Pin 6920 Carbines. I'm kinda worried now about precision shots.
An AR Gold won't fit in the Colts with the sear block shelf unless they have changed that stupid feature when they changed to std pin size on hammer and trigger I would have to machine out the block on my 2 Colt 6920's.
I figured the S3G would be perfect for long precision shots and the CQB shots as well. Especially as its touted as a 3 gun trigger.


I had the same thoughts about the S3G trigger as you.  But it is not exactly what I think we are going for.  Like has already been said its not so easy make a good shot.  It has a long trigger pull and breaks in the middle of that.  The trigger feels the same as any trigger that comes in a parts kit but just not as heavy.  Maybe 3.5 lbs.  

12/16/2011 5:29:22 PM EDT
[#20]
ok, dumb question...does the trigger only come in gold or can you get it black?
12/16/2011 6:02:39 PM EDT
[#21]
'Got one in my AR.... Likey lots.
12/28/2011 4:51:41 PM EDT
[#22]
I've only ever worked with stock triggers, and it looks like the AR Gold integrates the trigger, disconnector, hammer, and all related springs into a single package.  Is this thing permanently lubricated, or at least have specific lubrication points?  It sounds like an excellent trigger, but $280 is a bit steep.