Posted: 11/23/2011 4:16:28 AM EDT
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Been many years since I had a brand new Fudd gun and I recieved a Savage 110 as a gift. The rifle is a 30.06 I got the rifle dialed in I thought yet every time I take it to the range the very first shot is about 4 inches high. I am not above blaming myself but it seems as soon as the barrel warms the groups tighten up to about 2 MOA with Rem Express 150s. In the past i have handloaded and know every rifle has a prefered diet, I just dont have time to feed it boxes of ammo to find a good factory matchup it is the middle of the season rut will start soon and all my free time is in the field.
How long between shots at the range is acceptable to judge cold barrel accuracy? |
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What optic? What mount? Is it truly freefloated?
On shot is suspicious. Sounds like a lose optic orreticle movement under recoil. I would start with testing the free float. Shim the recoil lug in the stock tight. Go thru and lock tight every screw holding the mount and optic. After that you need a gunsmith. |
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As stated above, check for free float. Is it a synthetic or wood stock? Either way a little more material can be removed from the barrel channel with a file or a dowel and some sandpaper. If that doesn't work, try bedding the action, it could be a problem in the area of the recoil lug. I have an old Savage with a laminate stock and a bunch of wood had to be removed to make the action sit square.
May also try a heavier bullet. |
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Two potential problems immediately come to mind:
1) Some sort of inappropriate pressure on the barrel. I have great respect for savage rifles, but their synthetic stocks are the worst. Many will apply pressure to one side or another. They are simply too soft, and 'flex' into the barrel. Check your free float to make sure its actually 'free'. 2) Are you a habitual gun cleaner? If you clean after every range session, firing from a cleaned, oiled bore will often change point of impact for the first shot or three. I tend to re-verify sight in at the beginning of the season, and then I do not clean the bore until the season is over. I've seen first round flyers due to clean bores many times.... With modern non-corrisive primers there is no need to clean after every session or firing. Leaving it copper and powder fouled for a few weeks will hurt nothing. 3) Edit: If cleaning means you remove the barrelled action from the stock, don't do this during the season. It will take a few shots to settle in. Fro |
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Two potential problems immediately come to mind: 1) Some sort of inappropriate pressure on the barrel. I have great respect for savage rifles, but their synthetic stocks are the worst. Many will apply pressure to one side or another. They are simply too soft, and 'flex' into the barrel. Check your free float to make sure its actually 'free'. 2) Are you a habitual gun cleaner? If you clean after every range session, firing from a cleaned, oiled bore will often change point of impact for the first shot or three. I tend to re-verify sight in at the beginning of the season, and then I do not clean the bore until the season is over. I've seen first round flyers due to clean bores many times.... With modern non-corrisive primers there is no need to clean after every session or firing. Leaving it copper and powder fouled for a few weeks will hurt nothing. 3) Edit: If cleaning means you remove the barrelled action from the stock, don't do this during the season. It will take a few shots to settle in. Fro #2 is also my guess as to the OP's cold bore flyer. #1 can't help the situation either, but I'd think he'd be getting consistently awful groups, not just the first shot. |
| Okay went out yesterday and tried again no cold bore flyer this time. It grouped about 1.5 MOA with the first three shots. That is 45 rounds downrange with nothing but a swabing of the bore one time. Whole character of the rifle seems to have changed , very wierd but I will not look a gift horse in the mouth. |
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Two potential problems immediately come to mind: 1) Some sort of inappropriate pressure on the barrel. I have great respect for savage rifles, but their synthetic stocks are the worst. Many will apply pressure to one side or another. They are simply too soft, and 'flex' into the barrel. Check your free float to make sure its actually 'free'. 2) Are you a habitual gun cleaner? If you clean after every range session, firing from a cleaned, oiled bore will often change point of impact for the first shot or three. I tend to re-verify sight in at the beginning of the season, and then I do not clean the bore until the season is over. I've seen first round flyers due to clean bores many times.... With modern non-corrisive primers there is no need to clean after every session or firing. Leaving it copper and powder fouled for a few weeks will hurt nothing. 3) Edit: If cleaning means you remove the barrelled action from the stock, don't do this during the season. It will take a few shots to settle in. Fro Flyer......happened to me on a elk hunt once ...nice 6x6 120 yards away perfect broadside shot.... Browning Abolt 7mm rem mag with a nikon monarch 5-20x44 Breath and squeeze the trigger and I hit a tree right above his back behind him. After a lot of head scratching I remembered I cleaned the rifle a few weeks before and that was the first shot fired after cleaning the bore very well....there is a chance I shanked the shot.....but saying it was a flyer helps me sleep at night ha ha ha |
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