Posted: 11/23/2016 1:37:43 PM EDT
| I wish someone would make a small multiband radio like the LNR transceivers but with a full 10 watts or even 20. |
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Sounds like an Elecraft KX2 or KX3 to me. 
http://qrznow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elecraft-kx2-.png I forgot to add in the $500 to $600 range. new |
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Sounds like an Elecraft KX2 or KX3 to me.
http://qrznow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elecraft-kx2-.png I forgot to add in the $500 to $600 range. new The 2016 version of the TJ5A should be out soon-ish. That's $400 for a 20w 5 band HF rig. |
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Sounds like an Elecraft KX2 or KX3 to me.
http://qrznow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elecraft-kx2-.png I forgot to add in the $500 to $600 range. new The 2016 version of the TJ5A should be out soon-ish. That's $400 for a 20w 5 band HF rig. Yup youkits actually is pretty responsive. Add in a elecraft t1 ATU and you are GTG... or at least as GTG as you get in HAM land... |
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20 watts is neither fish nor fowl in the amateur radio world.
Traditional QRP is 5 watts, Japanese lower-level license restricts users to 10 watts. Traditionally, there just isn't an obvious reason for manufacturers to make a 20 or 25 watt radio. I'm not saying there is no utility to them, just that they don't fit into the traditional patterns of amateur radio operators. I've posted before the product I would like to see on the market. I don't know if anyone would buy it, but it would be neat. Imagine a semi-ruggedized variant of the Elecraft K2, with a wide range latching tuner, ~25w SSB output, and Lithium battery pack. Optional built in CW and PSK receiver with a small display and connection for a keyboard for sending. Would seem to be a neat package for folks doing portable operations like the NPOTA and similar things. Even better if the tuner module was detachable so could be used remotely at the antenna. |
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The TJ5A from a CW OP's point of view:
*No internal keyer. You'll have to add an external one or use a straight key, bug, or side-swiper. *CW filter operates in the audio chain, not the IF one. *No 80 Meters. This is prime operating territory during the Winter months when QRN is low. *As already mentioned, no internal antenna tuner. The Elecraft T1 should work with it, though. It's about $140. |
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That one does look interesting. |
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That one does look interesting. Development of the previous xiegu radio. Havent seen any US reviews of them. Also OP, the SGC2020 does do 20W, but many units are problematic. |
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20 watts is neither fish nor fowl in the amateur radio world. Traditional QRP is 5 watts, Japanese lower-level license restricts users to 10 watts. Traditionally, there just isn't an obvious reason for manufacturers to make a 20 or 25 watt radio. I'm not saying there is no utility to them, just that they don't fit into the traditional patterns of amateur radio operators. I've posted before the product I would like to see on the market. I don't know if anyone would buy it, but it would be neat. Imagine a semi-ruggedized variant of the Elecraft K2, with a wide range latching tuner, ~25w SSB output, and Lithium battery pack. Optional built in CW and PSK receiver with a small display and connection for a keyboard for sending. Would seem to be a neat package for folks doing portable operations like the NPOTA and similar things. Even better if the tuner module was detachable so could be used remotely at the antenna. Well they do have the T1 tuner. Its currently what im using with my 817 setup, with the amp 20w ssb is easily attainable. |
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Development of the previous xiegu radio. Havent seen any US reviews of them. Quoted:
Development of the previous xiegu radio. Havent seen any US reviews of them. Xiegu X108G, which is rated for 20w, if you're willing to deal with the idiosyncrasies of a Chinese radio. |
| New does not always mean better. I'm not sure what you mean by small but you can find a good, used Icom IC703 that will be in your price range. It's not the greatest performer but they work well. A used IC-706 or a Yaesu FT-857d can be found used for under $500. They are great radios as well. |
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New does not always mean better. I'm not sure what you mean by small but you can find a good, used Icom IC703 that will be in your price range. It's not the greatest performer but they work well. A used IC-706 or a Yaesu FT-857d can be found used for under $500. They are great radios as well. Honestly for SSB work the 817 is marginal. Great radio if you want to do other stuff, or if you get a speech proc and an amp for it. OP here is what I use 817 QRP-50W kit. I need to do an update as I've changed a few things in the setup in the past year (Elecraft T1 ATU, and Added dual filtering and DSP to the 817) and I've somewhat changed the antennas I'm using. But the basic 817 + chinamart amp does work. |
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Honestly for SSB work the 817 is marginal. Great radio if you want to do other stuff, or if you get a speech proc and an amp for it. OP here is what I use 817 QRP-50W kit. I need to do an update as I've changed a few things in the setup in the past year (Elecraft T1 ATU, and Added dual filtering and DSP to the 817) and I've somewhat changed the antennas I'm using. But the basic 817 + chinamart amp does work. Quoted:
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New does not always mean better. I'm not sure what you mean by small but you can find a good, used Icom IC703 that will be in your price range. It's not the greatest performer but they work well. A used IC-706 or a Yaesu FT-857d can be found used for under $500. They are great radios as well. Honestly for SSB work the 817 is marginal. Great radio if you want to do other stuff, or if you get a speech proc and an amp for it. OP here is what I use 817 QRP-50W kit. I need to do an update as I've changed a few things in the setup in the past year (Elecraft T1 ATU, and Added dual filtering and DSP to the 817) and I've somewhat changed the antennas I'm using. But the basic 817 + chinamart amp does work. I never suggested that he buys a FT817. It is marginal, even with high gain, directional antennas. It is a great little radio but I would never suggest it as a first radio, unless someone wants something to pack in a backpack for long hikes, and understands the limitations. Based on my experience, a 20-30 watt TX power range is the best compromise between performance (being heard) and available battery power, for SSB voice operation in portable conditions. |
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I never suggested that he buys a FT817. It is marginal, even with high gain, directional antennas. It is a great little radio but I would never suggest it as a first radio, unless someone wants something to pack in a backpack for long hikes, and understands the limitations. Based on my experience, a 20-30 watt TX power range is the best compromise between performance (being heard) and available battery power, for SSB voice operation in portable conditions. Quoted:
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New does not always mean better. I'm not sure what you mean by small but you can find a good, used Icom IC703 that will be in your price range. It's not the greatest performer but they work well. A used IC-706 or a Yaesu FT-857d can be found used for under $500. They are great radios as well. Honestly for SSB work the 817 is marginal. Great radio if you want to do other stuff, or if you get a speech proc and an amp for it. OP here is what I use 817 QRP-50W kit. I need to do an update as I've changed a few things in the setup in the past year (Elecraft T1 ATU, and Added dual filtering and DSP to the 817) and I've somewhat changed the antennas I'm using. But the basic 817 + chinamart amp does work. I never suggested that he buys a FT817. It is marginal, even with high gain, directional antennas. It is a great little radio but I would never suggest it as a first radio, unless someone wants something to pack in a backpack for long hikes, and understands the limitations. Based on my experience, a 20-30 watt TX power range is the best compromise between performance (being heard) and available battery power, for SSB voice operation in portable conditions. We agree on all of the things. |
| Well went with a black friday sale from giga parts , bought a alinco Dx-SR8T for $479. Its going in my truck , went with it because i can separate the control head from the radio which im going to have to do to mount in the truck with the radio under the seat. The reviews on it arent bad but i know nothing about them , i down loaded the manual on it and been looking it over before it gets here. |
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20 watts is neither fish nor fowl in the amateur radio world. Traditional QRP is 5 watts, Japanese lower-level license restricts users to 10 watts. Traditionally, there just isn't an obvious reason for manufacturers to make a 20 or 25 watt radio. I'm not saying there is no utility to them, just that they don't fit into the traditional patterns of amateur radio operators. I've posted before the product I would like to see on the market. I don't know if anyone would buy it, but it would be neat. Imagine a semi-ruggedized variant of the Elecraft K2, with a wide range latching tuner, ~25w SSB output, and Lithium battery pack. Optional built in CW and PSK receiver with a small display and connection for a keyboard for sending. Would seem to be a neat package for folks doing portable operations like the NPOTA and similar things. Even better if the tuner module was detachable so could be used remotely at the antenna. Quoted to say that I still think this is a great spec. |
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That one does look interesting. I was looking at that one real hard , amazon has it for $510 but i went with the alinco dx-sr8t instead. |
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I have this one - it can be pushed quite easily to 10W through 20M, anything higher the output drops off. I really enjoy it - and have most of a spare kit just sitting around too ;) |
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I have this one - it can be pushed quite easily to 10W through 20M, anything higher the output drops off. I really enjoy it - and have most of a spare kit just sitting around too ;) Quoted:
I have this one - it can be pushed quite easily to 10W through 20M, anything higher the output drops off. I really enjoy it - and have most of a spare kit just sitting around too ;) I have one as well, It's a very nice little radio |
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20 watts is neither fish nor fowl in the amateur radio world. Traditional QRP is 5 watts, Japanese lower-level license restricts users to 10 watts. Traditionally, there just isn't an obvious reason for manufacturers to make a 20 or 25 watt radio. I'm not saying there is no utility to them, just that they don't fit into the traditional patterns of amateur radio operators. I've posted before the product I would like to see on the market. I don't know if anyone would buy it, but it would be neat. Imagine a semi-ruggedized variant of the Elecraft K2, with a wide range latching tuner, ~25w SSB output, and Lithium battery pack. Optional built in CW and PSK receiver with a small display and connection for a keyboard for sending. Would seem to be a neat package for folks doing portable operations like the NPOTA and similar things. Even better if the tuner module was detachable so could be used remotely at the antenna. Here's what I want... 
This size and form factor Same size (5 Ah liion battery) Same aluminum casing. Use the FT817 type display Offer a full function full keypad microphone that attaches to the side 160 meters - 440 MHz KX3 type micro tuner 10 watts power output Replace the 5 pin mil connector with the rotary encoder knob function |
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Did you guys assemble your mcHFs? Difficulty level? I got 3 sets of boards, 1 was assembled, 1 requires assembly (and is missing the display board) and 1 is just the boards. I have looked at all the parts (and done some SMD work) and don't think it would be too difficult to do - I'm torn between building it and selling it - it would be very nice to have a backup/portable available. |
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Here's what I want... http://cf.mp-cdn.net/9a/6a/f1de9f1373aaa55ee97664c8c432.jpg This size and form factor Same size (5 Ah liion battery) Same aluminum casing. Use the FT817 type display Offer a full function full keypad microphone that attaches to the side 160 meters - 440 MHz KX3 type micro tuner 10 watts power output Replace the 5 pin mil connector with the rotary encoder knob function Quoted:
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20 watts is neither fish nor fowl in the amateur radio world. Traditional QRP is 5 watts, Japanese lower-level license restricts users to 10 watts. Traditionally, there just isn't an obvious reason for manufacturers to make a 20 or 25 watt radio. I'm not saying there is no utility to them, just that they don't fit into the traditional patterns of amateur radio operators. I've posted before the product I would like to see on the market. I don't know if anyone would buy it, but it would be neat. Imagine a semi-ruggedized variant of the Elecraft K2, with a wide range latching tuner, ~25w SSB output, and Lithium battery pack. Optional built in CW and PSK receiver with a small display and connection for a keyboard for sending. Would seem to be a neat package for folks doing portable operations like the NPOTA and similar things. Even better if the tuner module was detachable so could be used remotely at the antenna. Here's what I want... http://cf.mp-cdn.net/9a/6a/f1de9f1373aaa55ee97664c8c432.jpg This size and form factor Same size (5 Ah liion battery) Same aluminum casing. Use the FT817 type display Offer a full function full keypad microphone that attaches to the side 160 meters - 440 MHz KX3 type micro tuner 10 watts power output Replace the 5 pin mil connector with the rotary encoder knob function And this is what you can buy today. But I'm sure its much cheaper than Thales ;) 
TJ2B Only covers HF, 3 bands. Not sure on battery size, 5W out IIRC. Alternately why not a KX2? Aside from form factor and VHF I think it covers what you want. |