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6/19/2016 11:40:47 PM EDT
Making coax for Field Day.  I've got 200' of RG-8X out in the shop that I have cut into four 50' sections.  I've just
soldered PL-259's on each end of all four.

This reminded me of some things...

So, a few tips.

PUT THE SHELL ON FIRST!!!!

On .400" coax just fold the braid back over the jacket and screw on the body of the PL-259.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlcT9SXNPs

Of course, RG-8X requires a reducer and soldering the braid through the holes of the body of the PL-259.  

Again, PUT THE SHELL ON FIRST.  PUT THE REDUCER ON NEXT.

Tip #1.  Use Amphenol Silver Plated PL-259's.  They are MUCH easier to solder.  Use a little rosin paste flux.

Should you do as I sometimes do, get solder on the threads of the body, it will make it impossible to screw
the shell up into position.  Ruined!  Cut it off and start over... no, you don't have to do this, it can be easily
salvaged.

As soon as you have the four holes soldered, cool the PL-259 with a wet cloth.

Tip #2,  WEARING YOUR SAFETY GLASSES, simply use a Dremel tool with the small 3/4" diameter steel
wire brush, tool turned up to medium high (30,000 rpm) and brush away the excess solder.  Takes only seconds
and you will have the soft solder cleaned out of the threads.  You can also clean excess solder from the tip of the
PL-259 should you have a too large drop of solder there.





6/19/2016 11:58:17 PM EDT
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The crimp on connectors are so much faster

6/20/2016 1:43:03 AM EDT
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Both of those are very poor ways to install solder PL259s.
6/20/2016 3:04:48 AM EDT
[#3]
I hate soldering PL259s. They are one of the hardest things I have ever had to solder. I bought a monster soldering iron just for them.







I just made up a couple of one foot jumpers with RG8X a few weeks ago. I used a little heat shrink for strain relief. Plus I think it gives them a nice finished look. You could smear some sealant on the end of the connector before heat shrinking if it is going to be used outdoors.





















These connectors are just cheap ones that have 2 rectangular windows instead of the 4 holes, but they actually weren't any easier or harder to solder than an amphenol connector. Besides the chrome or nickel or whatever plating seems to resist corrosion better than the silver ones. Of course I have silver reducers on these so there is probably some issue with dissimilar metals that might create a semiconductor junction or something screwy.









I will definitely commit the wire brush tip to memory.


 
6/20/2016 8:06:01 AM EDT
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Both of those are very poor ways to install solder PL259s.
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Do you have a better demo video you can refer?
6/20/2016 10:15:24 AM EDT
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The heat required to solder PL-259's is very damaging.  Any way that they are soldered sucks.  I'm more and more
coming into the "crimp-on" camp.

The first time I saw the "twist it on over the braid" method I had doubts.  The more I think about it the more I think
in the long run this is the better method.  And no one is having failures from this method.  I squirt some sealant into
the holes.  The tip is soldered, of course.

Checking the prices at DX Engineering, the cost of good crimp-on's is about the same as solder-on type, so why not?
6/20/2016 12:49:11 PM EDT
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The heat required to solder PL-259's is very damaging.  Any way that they are soldered sucks.  I'm more and more
coming into the "crimp-on" camp.

The first time I saw the "twist it on over the braid" method I had doubts.  The more I think about it the more I think
in the long run this is the better method.  And no one is having failures from this method.  I squirt some sealant into
the holes.  The tip is soldered, of course.

Checking the prices at DX Engineering, the cost of good crimp-on's is about the same as solder-on type, so why not?
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I just used the DX engineering crimp on pl-259s to installed two antennas. The thing I like about the crimp on is I can install them very easily outside and don't need a soldering station, all I need is my

butane powered bernsomatic for soldering the tips - which takes about 1 minute.
6/20/2016 1:21:31 PM EDT
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I just used the DX engineering crimp on pl-259s to installed two antennas. The thing I like about the crimp on is I can install them very easily outside and don't need a soldering station, all I need is my

butane powered bernsomatic for soldering the tips - which takes about 1 minute.
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The heat required to solder PL-259's is very damaging.  Any way that they are soldered sucks.  I'm more and more
coming into the "crimp-on" camp.

The first time I saw the "twist it on over the braid" method I had doubts.  The more I think about it the more I think
in the long run this is the better method.  And no one is having failures from this method.  I squirt some sealant into
the holes.  The tip is soldered, of course.

Checking the prices at DX Engineering, the cost of good crimp-on's is about the same as solder-on type, so why not?


I just used the DX engineering crimp on pl-259s to installed two antennas. The thing I like about the crimp on is I can install them very easily outside and don't need a soldering station, all I need is my

butane powered bernsomatic for soldering the tips - which takes about 1 minute.

Yep  butane soldering for the win.
6/20/2016 3:54:05 PM EDT
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The subject 'PL-259 installation tip' should be followed by "Don't do it".

If you're going for the cost & hassle of creating new long coax leads for outdoor use or could possibly be used for VHF just switch to N connectors.
Or BNC.  
It's time to leave the 1940's and modernize.
On the back of my dash mounted ft-2800 is a SO-239 to BNC adaptor.  The coax to the NMO-antenna mount is BNC-N.
As I've been replacing my original RG-8x feed lines I have done the following:
All of my surge protectors are N-type female.
All of the coax runs from there to the antenna feedline are low-loss coax, some LMR-600 some Davis BuryFlex with N-type males.
The coax feed panel in my window uses N bulkheads.  I'll used SO-239 adapters on the inside for now.  And at the antennas until I move them to N.

Some comparison test results.

[updated to correct typo on NMO-antenna.]
6/21/2016 12:40:53 AM EDT
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These cables needed to be compatible with other equipment, not just ours.  So, PL-259s.



The main point is that you can clean solder from threads using a Dremel with wire brush wheel.
6/21/2016 7:13:22 PM EDT
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The crimp on connectors are so much faster

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Indeed, I've gone the crimp method and much easier and quicker

6/21/2016 7:14:06 PM EDT
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These cables needed to be compatible with other equipment, not just ours.  So, PL-259s.



The main point is that you can clean solder from threads using a Dremel with wire brush wheel.
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I run 99.999% on HF so PL-259 is just fine for me

6/21/2016 8:01:24 PM EDT
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You could also blow, or rap the connector on a solid surface, the solder will flow off.

If you're not careful, you can abrade the surfaces with the dremel, giving corrosion a place to take hold.


Aren't you getting a lot of energy loss with multiple 259 splices?
6/21/2016 8:07:28 PM EDT
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Aren't you getting a lot of energy loss with multiple 259 splices?
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a properly built PL-259 is not very lossy, especially at HF frequencies
6/21/2016 8:11:47 PM EDT
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I messed around with solder connectors for a long time before I found the crimps. Add some heat shrink for strain relief as others posted and you have a secure connector.
6/21/2016 9:25:19 PM EDT
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I messed around with solder connectors for a long time before I found the crimps. Add some heat shrink for strain relief as others posted and you have a secure connector.
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I use the heat-shrink with the adhesive inside.


6/22/2016 7:02:56 PM EDT
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That's a great plan.  I found this by looking up Marine Heat Shrink...not sure if there's another name for it.

Harbor Freight sells a Marine Heat Shrink kit of 3 1/2" pieces of various diameters for $5.99...